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| shameless Deactivated User Moscow 1313 Posts 1/03 |  Posted - Oct 8 2003 : 2:40AMDisclaimer: Dont get me wrong! Rape is a crime and has to be severely punished. Porn fantasy set up fake-rape (clearly marked as FAKE!!!!) consists of consensual adults embarking on a role play. Rape is quite a common theme in mainstrean cinema, it has been a theme in 70ties porn I read, it has (luckily!) more clearly marked as <fake> been done in some GBG-flicks (Francesca Le a.o.), in some Private vignettes...but now as porn breaks more and more borders, it's disappeared. All other customers/directors fantasies seem legitimate, fake-rape is not. I am asking this after a longer discussion with one of my models (Stella), telling me that she fantazizes about being raped by a biker gang. And while she does not want this really to happen, she would like to play tho role of the raped girl in a safe porn setting. I was really puzzled to hear that first, but after some search on the net rape-fantasies seem to be quite common for many women. While good sensible producers, like most US ones, could play safe here easily, I think. This would not leave the market to less sensible underground producers, like those Russian videos my brother keeps. They are awful, sometimes not even clear wheter it is fake or not (!), yet as my brother showed me in discussion forum, they are very looked after - and not only in Russia, from all over the world. Edited by - Shameless on Oct 8 2003 [Link] |
| EagleSpirit Member Somewhere Doing Something Stupid 439 Posts 7/03 | Posted - Oct 8 2003 : 3:12AM [Link] |
| meandr74 Member 19 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Oct 9 2003 : 12:55AM The "Wild Boy" scene was in Sodomania 7, and it was a damn hot scene. [Link] |
| EagleSpirit Member Somewhere Doing Something Stupid 439 Posts 7/03 | Posted - Oct 9 2003 : 1:03AM [Link] |
| shameless Deactivated User Moscow 1313 Posts 1/03 | Posted - Oct 12 2003 : 4:42PM [Link] |
| Fumetto Member Europe 164 Posts 5/03 | Posted - Oct 13 2003 : 8:01AM Hmm i think for these fake rape scenes the european market is the best especially italy, france they have many pornmovies which are prohibited in germany, england and other western countries and there are some beautiful stars which did a lot of fake rape scenes like lea martini, anita dark, selen, deborah wells, draghixa, dalila, erika bella, karen lancaume oceane, jenny fields rebecca lord, simona valli........... some pics can be find here
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| shameless Deactivated User Moscow 1313 Posts 1/03 | Posted - Oct 13 2003 : 8:05AM I would like to know more, but I dont think you can post fake-rape pictures here directly. Try to post the links please. in FAQ is exactly explained how it works. Also, most interested I am in the Erica Bella fake-rape. What film is that? [Link] |
| vodka tonic coolest cucumber who 1243 Posts 11/02 | Posted - Oct 13 2003 : 2:34PM Lesson in French for easier title navigation : "viol" means rape & "forcée" means forced. Love...exciting and new Edited by - vodka tonic on 10/13/2003 2:37:41 PM [Link] |
| Fumetto Member Europe 164 Posts 5/03 | Posted - Oct 13 2003 : 3:15PM Erika Bella did a lot of fake rape scenes like in otages stupri gallery lucrezia 2 i ll post some links to the pics soon some more infos to these movies
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| Wally Senior Member 1821 Posts 8/01 | Posted - Oct 13 2003 : 4:52PM [Link] |
| Fumetto Member Europe 164 Posts 5/03 | Posted - Oct 14 2003 : 2:22AM in "terrore del weekend" it was released now by goldlight as "entführt und gedemuetigt" it also contains dalila, silvia clarck and the beautiful natalie romel i have some small previews in my streamload archive www.streamload.com a full description to this service can be find in my clubs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mariosalierihardcoreclub/ http://communities.msn.at/MarioSalieriHardcoreClub http://www.orgazmik.com/detail/F/dvd/12974.htm [Link] |
| shameless Deactivated User Moscow 1313 Posts 1/03 | Posted - Oct 14 2003 : 7:16AM - Is this cute girl on the cover Nathalie Romel? - Is Salieri still shooting fake-rape films in 2003? Ta! [Link] |
| cykedout Member Ireland 245 Posts 8/00 | Posted - Oct 14 2003 : 10:56AM
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| Fumetto Member Europe 164 Posts 5/03 | Posted - Oct 14 2003 : 11:00AM |
| MLyons Senior Member 1617 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Oct 14 2003 : 11:08AM Please stop posting direct images in the forum. Please use links instead. We ask this to reduce bandwidth demand. Thanks. Mike L. [Link] |
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| noproblemo Member 348 Posts 12/02 | Posted - Oct 14 2003 : 11:53AM |
| Fumetto Member Europe 164 Posts 5/03 | Posted - Oct 14 2003 : 6:23PM yes its nathalie romel on the cover [Link] |
| Fumetto Member Europe 164 Posts 5/03 | Posted - Oct 22 2003 : 2:42PM Ok here are the vidcaps of some of the best forced sexscenes of Mario Salieri and Nicky ranieri movies more you can find in my free clubs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mariosalierihardcoreclub/ [Link] |
| Fumetto Member Europe 164 Posts 5/03 | Posted - Oct 22 2003 : 3:16PM |
| Fumetto Member Europe 164 Posts 5/03 | Posted - Nov 4 2003 : 2:49PM Hmm sorry dont know why another good fakerapescnes in italian french productions [Link] |
| GetCool Member 94 Posts 1/03 | Posted - Nov 4 2003 : 8:53PM [Link] |
| shameless Deactivated User Moscow 1313 Posts 1/03 | Posted - Nov 14 2003 : 12:01PM But the puritan climate in the USA does, it seems, absolutely not allow even this kind of role play amongst consenting professional adults. I write this after having gotten already the umpth letter of an US-porn cameraperson thanking me for my proposition to film that line for S&S Mocow Video Production but telling me he really cannot do it because it depicts fake forced sex to a certain extent. And this in the eye of the widely known fact that rape phantasies are common amongst women and men alike! I have not contacted Max Hardcore yet, but consider doing it probabely now. Looks like a devils pact, but I still dream about a good Western professional filming that line for us. Also because I want to export it there afterwards of course, too. [Link] |
| Fumetto Member Europe 164 Posts 5/03 | Posted - Nov 14 2003 : 4:05PM I ve found a good site to this theme http://www.conradson.com it contains a lot of sex and crime a little bit like salieri and they have beautiful girls like dora venter [Link] |
| shameless Deactivated User Moscow 1313 Posts 1/03 | Posted - Mar 12 2004 : 2:56PM Thus, I cannot answer any questions, which is maybe good, because I am forbidden to make any more anouncments about scenes we shoot in the press-releaase section, it seems. But thanks to Renee, I found this old tread of mine, dealing with a similar subject. And if I dont include a link to my website, its no promotion, I hope: Just let me say, I cannot express the degree of hypocrisy I read in some posts. I tought it was clear enough that I was talking about clearly marked film, depicting a fake -rape scenario agreed upon by mature adults, staged and played by mature adults for money. I started producing this stuff, because I strongly believe in the freedom to express phantasies. And rape-fantasies are wide-spread amongst women and men. I also started producing this material because there is a huge market for this in Russia and ex-USSR-countries, a market that is filled up to now by dubious producers, often (as I suspect), actually raping the girls they show. (I have watched such example shot by soldiers in Chechnia or South-Russia). Whoever knows my previous posts does know how much I care for my models, how much I do like my girls, even if I also do make my living renting them to other porn producers or (recently) shooting my own porn with them. If you are lucky, we will not find an US-distributor. Russian market is big enough for this kind of films anyway. Just let me tell, that I got more than a dotzen inquiries from West about renting girls doing fake-rape stuff. (no included signature, for anti-promotion reasons) [Link] |
| MLyons Senior Member 1617 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Mar 12 2004 : 3:08PM I don't know what to say anymore. Enough. Not only has this has been discussed to the point of most people's exhaustion, but whether or not you include a link you're still just defending and promoting your "product". ADT certainly serves a purpose for promotion, but this is getting rediculous. Call it what you will--hypocritical, unfair, or simply that some (many...? most...?) of us (including Steph) are just tired of hearing about it. I don't care. You're not wriggling your way out anymore. I'm probably going to be unpoular in some circles for closing this thread, but so be it. Edited by - MLyons on 3/12/2004 3:09:36 PM [Link] |
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