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Sammyboy
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308 Posts
8/01
Posted - Oct 23 2002 : 11:28PM
Everything I've ever seen has been kinda lame. All it has to do is center on the women. Reviews become outdated. So, that's not the way to go.
But just a big, fun, glossy
book with pictures, credits,
bios, quotes from the girls
if possible, opinions, what's known of their lives before and after porn, and just a tribute to their appeal. Seems it would sell. Porn fans are loyal. Steve Sullivan has done something like this with mainstream actresses and models (and some porn). Seems
an untapped market and would help make porn even more mainstream. I'm no writer and have no connections but many
of these women are really beautiful and appealing. Why
not celebrate it?
DenverDon
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Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Oct 24 2002 : 1:16AM
We need something like "Fire in the Valley" for the computer industry, for the porn industry.

DenverDon

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9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 26 2002 : 12:53AM
Many books have been rumored over the years, but I suspect the writers get sucked into the porno undertow and have to bail out or risk their sanity. The best old-school book is called "Sinema," and covers the golden age -- gay, straight, underground/art and exploitation -- in a way that still makes the book good reading today. (Kenneth Turan, who became an established film critic, is one of the authors).

The only title I've seen lately isn't so much a book as a photo album with commentary: Ian Gitler's "Porn Star." It's smartly, even compassionately, done, and the photos are great: it's the Savannah Era, and her death shadows the entire enterprise (seems the photographer got a bit involved). Finally, the book is depressing, but it's not like Gitler set out to reach that destination. Quite the opposite, but that's where the book ends up.

Susan Faludi did a number on TT Boy, which was published in the New Yorker a few years ago, and as part of her not quite recent book about the "crisis in American manhood" (or ... whatever, zzzzz).
The piece definitely had an agenda, which undercuts its value.


Haven't heard of much else, save the occasional bio that pops up. Sometimes there are interesting and off-the-wall articles in scholarly publications, usually very pro-porn and often "feminist" in tone, if you can get to that. I'm sure a search on Northern Light will turn some stuff up.


ultradamno
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12877 Posts
2/00
Posted - Oct 26 2002 : 12:58AM
Reviews of books about porn (including a few by me and one by a person named Steph) at Rame.net

Edited by - ultradamno on 10/26/2002 12:59:09 AM

Pontus Maximus
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1346 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 26 2002 : 5:44AM
Sammyboy, I think I know exactly where you're coming from with this. Here's the concept as I envision it. A nice, classy, hardcover book that looks great on your coffee table. Style-wise, this book would be like Michael Jordan's book, For the Love of the Game, which is to say, not heavily text-laden but lots of fun to pick up anytime and leaf through.

When you open the book up, you see that the pages are colorful and glossy with lots and lots of great pictures of all of the porn babes we've come to love dating back to the 1970s. No movie reviews, but, as you've said, plenty of bios, credits, quotes from the girls, gossip, tidbits and all sorts of interesting observations, insights, and inside information about the girls and the porn industry in general.

It would be entirely obvious that the author of this book is a true porn FAN of the highest order and unashamedly so. It would also be clear that the author has an extensive knowledge of the porn industry, top to bottom, and was personally well-acquainted with a great many people in the industry, performers to directors to studio heads. The author would also have an extremely engaging and entertaining writing style that everyone could easily relate to.

If a major publishing house were to fully realize the sales potential of such a book, and were willing to find the right author, commission him, and bank roll the project to produce a top quality book, and then (along with the author himself) were willing to promote and market the book agressively, I believe that they would ultimately earn a fortune in profits.

There must be an astounding number of porn fans of all adult ages and from all walks of life just in the United States alone. And from what I've read, porn fans collectively spend literally BILLIONS of dollars on porn every year.

Here's a fantasy. I use the word "fantasy" purposefully because I'm not trying to egg the person on that I'm about to mention. It's pure fantasy. What if John Stagliano were to one day produce such a book?! Someone who fits the bill in terms of all of the author's qualities that I mentioned before, but is also himself a legend in the porn industry. Someone who always brings great passion, skill, diligence, and professionalism to every project that he undertakes. Someone who can LITERALLY do it all and is already himself a publisher. That would be one hell of a book and it would SELL, SELL, SELL!!!

It's just a fantasy, but that doesn't stop me from dreamin'.

Pontus

 
Sammyboy
Member

308 Posts
8/01
Posted - Oct 26 2002 : 8:37AM
Right, Pontus, that is what I meant. Although I never thought of someone like Stagliano as a writer of a book like this. More like a complusive fan with some insider connections. Stagliano could certainly give insider knowledge about different girls. Most porn books try to take an intellectual approach,
give history, business workings, why porn's good or bad, discuss how producers built there business, why guys like porn, why we're sick, it's bad for society, all bullshit. Who cares? Porn's
appeal is the women. Plain and simple. And I don't think it would need a big publisher (never work anyway, they'd only do the intellectual bit).
The Barefacts book was just a
self-published, fan's obsession and tapped into the unspoken interest in star's nude scenes. This would just be a fun book, a small appealing picture of each girl, hundreds of girls, what's known, quotes from guys who worked with them and all those others things. Could be a edition on foreign girls,
if it's all too much. Books on different decades, even including girls who did loops.
Danny Peary did a big book called, I think, Cult Movie
Stars. It was cool. People who never get written about but we've all seen. Just his personal opinions about them,
liking Hayley Mills when he was a kid, etc. Not even insider stuff this could have.
And it was good. And books like this can be updated every few years and sell more. Or be all new with all new girls. Porn's about women. Sex sells.
Beautiful women sell. So why wouldn't a fun tribute to them sell?
Maximum Booty
Member

New Orleans
347 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 26 2002 : 11:42PM
I second the recommendation of Porn Star...some really great photos but like he said, in the end its a bit of a bummer...
Best

Max Booty
Its like butter

Zatoichi
Member

Sunny California
414 Posts
1/01
Posted - Oct 27 2002 : 11:12AM
One title that hasn't been mentioned yet is Anthony Petkovich's The X Factory . It's been out for a few years (and so is a bit dated now), and it doesn't have slick paper or glossy color photos, but it does have plenty of info and some great interviews with performers and directors. Looks like it's still available direct from the publisher here.



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