Maybe they just have busy schedules and haven't had the time to post here. I've noticed some of them seem to go through a cycle where they post here, disappear for a couple of months, come back, and then not post anything for a couple more months.

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"Hi guys, this is XXX actress, I been busy, bought a new car, blah, blah, hope you still want to see me, just did a hot g/g scene with XXX, bye."

Posting once in a while, ala Christie Lee, is smart.

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Edited by - Tinaka on 3/10/2005 10:15:55 AM

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If they post here and mention the movies they've been in one too many times, their posts are dubbed 'spam' and 'shameless self-promotion'. Plus there has been some rude behaviour towards them - some people just don't get that just because these girls enjoy sex and don't mind having it in front of the camera, it doesn't mean that they don't wanna be treated with some respect.

If they stop posting everybody laments that they 'don't care enough for their fans'.

If every post I made was followed by some 10 stupid comments, I would get bored after a while as well.

(This obviously just goes out to a minority of posters, but the majority has to pay for that behaviour.)

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I'm sure there's a few folks who have been "scared off," by an overzealous fan or detractor, but I bet the percentage is smaller than you think.

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I have spoken to at least one actress who likes this board alot, but says she rarely has the time to read and post as much as she'd like.

most likely a tempest in a teapot...

"Corruptio optimi pessima..."

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Edited by - phatbasey on 3/13/2005 2:13:22 AM

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I really don't mind the self promoting threads. I figure that is why the Porn News - Press Releases forum exists. Really, how can they interact with fans and not self promote? Except for going into the lower forums, which takes more time and effort than you can reasonably ask for.

I am more curious about the wierd possesiveness that some posters seem to have. Not to mention a self-righteous sense of entitlement that some exude. Creepy. Must be worse at conventions.

Besides the "They have a life" arguement, which I agree with, there is also another factor. They are not porn stars 24/7. I expect somewhere on non-digital media they are three dimensional people. Can't be working all the time.

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There's got to be a balance between people being able to state their opinions as long as they don't let it degenerate into stupidity and insults (which is what happened in that thread).

On the other hand, stars, whether they're big or small have to have a certain amount of thick skin when ther're in a forum like this or any forum as there is always someone who won't like you. Really they just have to trust the site owners/moderators to be able to step in when this happens.

While I can certainly see how posts like cris' in that linked thread can wear someone down, I personally think a forum full of fawning fanbois is just as pointless as a forum full of flamers.

It's a matter of tact and commonsense, and most importantly respect. Someone might not like Jenna (Jewel/Melissa/Katja/Skeeter/Steve Holmes/Everhard/whoever) but if that's true there are ways to post this without being an asshole about it, and I'd suggest that going into a thread where they are posting simply to hear your own voice saying how you think they suck is not the way to share this with other forum members.

There's plenty of ways and threads to share opinions without being a confrontational jackass about them.

scipio

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we all got our personal kick, we all got something we want to see on camera. but c'mon....nobody owes fans anything.

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Edited by - FF>> Button on 3/13/2005 9:50:34 AM

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Being a fixture at PXP, Jewel had a vested interest pushing her product here. In my opinion, it insulted some of her fans because Jewel's catalog is much more than PXP. Being a figure head, she also responded to some comments and actions in a manner less than flatering for such an accomplished woman.

For other girls mentioned in this thread, there is no real incentive. Kami, Melissa and Arianna work for a veriety of studio, and pushing thier prodct does not put money in their pockets like it does for Jewel. Doesn't mean that they shouldn't push their stuff, just means that pusging it opens up the door for unwanted insults.

Since I have talked to Kami a few times, I know she is truly hunble, and was involved here because she not only liked talking to her fans, but she is a fan herself. I hadn't really noticed that she slowed down posting, but now that you mention it, I see it.

Jenna came to Jewels deffense, and it's great to have friends, but regardless of how big your bank account is, or the personal relationship with someone, you need to look at their public image. IE, I have some friends that are really good to me, but complete asses to others. I know this, and regardless of how I feel about them, I don't blindly defend thier actions.

I'm not saying that this is the case with Jenna and Jewel, but as I stated in that thread, Jewel was not the subject, the actions were.

Porn is a "Bandwagon Sport" If people aren't piling on women for sex, they are piling on the bandwagon to end a career.

My advice to any star would be to enjoy yourself, be safe and remember this ride doesn't last forever. Save your duckets and remember to smile, cause one nasty outburst, email or quote will bring out the Jackyls.

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Well said. In a perfect world, there would be a happy medium in which the talent and fans can co-exist without the inevitable mean-spiritness. However, in a forum where anonymity is afforded to fans but not the talent, the scales are unbalanced in favor of the fans.

I painted too broad a brush with my "shameless self-promotion" comment in the Jewel thread and I deeply regret it. I think ADT does a great job in welcoming pornstars that start posting here but I do notice that after an initial blast of posts, they don't return or post as frequent.

The question remains - do we not make them feel comfortable?

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Really though, spending too much time on the internet, I've found, deteriorates my soul--bit by bit, and I don't think it's just me. People forget that they are talking to people , and hence all the self-righteous entitlement and the deceptively antisocial behvaior patterns that are so easy for ANYone to fall into on the internet. It's part of the online culture, I'm afraid--and an empty and depressing part at that.

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I would hope that the contributions of industry people -- mainly performers -- would help humanize porn a little bit, and make it more fun for everyone.

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She can cook too, you know!




morbidthoughts said:
"I just like women that serve me beer."

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Edited by - cubesnake on 3/15/2005 2:09:14 PM

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Just recently one porn star who was already member here forgot her password. She signed up again using a variation of her name so she could let her fans know the latest news about her.

A couple of members questioned if it was really her, as if they would have a fucking clue who she really was!

Classy. Real classy.

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It's a shame that the Internet is as anonymous as it is. I can't imagine that many of the most critical people would have the nerve to walk up to a performer and say the things that they are willing to write.

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In the Star Crossed and Porn Pool forums, there's SO many more posts, that there's a much larger chance of a thread starting with 12 people talking about how
is a stupid useless bitch for not doing <insert sex act here> before one of us gets a chance to see it and squash it.

I can certainly see Katja's point about almost all fo us being anynymous, but then that's the thing about the internet. It's big and international. I'm sure Walter would be willing to meet you and show you around next time you're in Belgium, and I'll be glad to do the same when you're in Melbourne, but realistically thats never going to happen (well the Melbourne part, anyway) which is the same for someone like babby in Alabama.

The nature of being a public performer is that you're in the spotlight and people will write both slavering fanboy stuff and mean-spirited shit about you. Goes as much for Katja Kassin as it does for Nicole Kidman, though the scale will of course slide, both are public figures.

Really then the options come down to being level-headed and ignoring the trash talk like, say Kami, Kimi, Tricia. Posting intensely and then fading away, or just keeping it to a casual thing and posting occasionally.

Just look here to see Jenna Jameson being hit by the same thing Katja posts about..

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my advice is to open up the door sometime, go outside, and experience life. waiting for a film that has been shot five years ago to be released so you can get your fix, isn't the way to live. besides that it's truly pathetic.

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Hey, I am an academic. I get paid to be boring.
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Erm... of course there is the question if I am an interesting character here?




Endorphin said:
"What Non-sense thread has a stated goal anyways?"

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As far as the specific question about the disappearing porn star posters on ADT, it is troubling. Is it merely that some of us fail to engage them in civil conversation and thus scare them away or is that some of us jerk with one hand while pointing the righteous finger of blame with the other? There are actual people behind the objects we watch on our television screens. Apparently, some stars don't think enough of us realize that and have decided that the benefit does not outweigh the cost of self-promotion through ADT. Or maybe they are just busy. Or maybe they don't have steady access to a computer or the internet. Or maybe they have an inherit fear in communicating with, in essence, anonymous people with made-up names whose interest and adulation could be flattering as well as scary in addition to the more hurtful experience(s) that might await them if communicating with proud critics or malcontents.

Fuck if I know. All I've done is summarize in a paragraph the explanations I've seen given thus far. I'd say that there is no simple x causes y answer here. It's probably a combination of all of these things. Listen to what Katja and Melissa and anyone else have to say. They alone can offer the best insight because, well, they are female actresses and we aren't.

What's this about opening up a door? I'm off to go find it.

Kelly

"You can't be neutral on a moving train."

PS...Is it just me or since Jenna started posting again have a couple of people attacked her simply because she's Jenna?

Edited by - tscfan317 on 3/17/2005 1:22:59 AM

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