Hey guys I noticed that every new female who starts the business is always pressured by Men in the Industry into doing Anal they act like that in order for a females career to take off in the industry they MUST do anal when in fact there are loads of popular Female performers that succeed without doing anal for example Jenna Jameson the most popular and respected Porn Actress in the Industry has never done Anal also Jesse Jane,Tera Patrick,Misty Stone, Pinky,and Roxy Reynolds are some examples of successful non Anal Performers, to me Women who dont do Anal tend to last longer in the Industry more so than Women who do, I also think Women who dont do Anal are more cleaner in the sense that they arent at risk of as many STDs ,I just dont think its right for directors to pressure a female that they know hasnt done anal to do anal like they say things like "Anal is not bad just practice at home" or "anal is not that dirty " , its like a way to wear and tear and use a female performer up until they are no longer profitable cause first they talk a female into doing Anal than double penetration than double anal than fisting and all those things wears ur body out until ur out the business so can someone explain to me what is the big deal with anal when tons of female performers have been successful without doing it
You have been here long enough to see how many of the consumers of this site call out performers for not doing anal scenes. I'm sure that the producers of the content are just trying to meet the demands of their audience. Just like mainstream producers pressure female performers to do topless scenes. As for "cleaner," I don't know of any STDs that are transmitted via anal sex only. If you are referring to the fact that anal bleeding can raise the likelihood that some STD can be transmitted, that can be cut down with the use of condoms. STDs can be transmitted through oral, vaginal, or anal sex. Some via just contact with the skin without sex. And do you have proof that it is just male producers and not female producers in the industry as well?
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Ronald Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 17 2014 : 6:37PM
because anal is harder to get from a woman, its about the fantasy about women who actually want to please you and willing to do anal, that most guys dont get at home
It took Gianna forever to do anal on screen and i still have not even seen her EA scene and up to that point she was as popular as ever so i don't think anal makes or breaks a girl,as long as she was shaking those boobs on cam i was happy and i am an anal fan but if some girls don't want to do it then it's their choice.
There are guys who always want to see a girl do anal but there's plenty who could care less if she does or not. I think the Gonzo audience is more obessed with anal than the feature audience. If you look at girls who are contract girls or mostly do features there are many of them who have successful careers without doing anal...like Jenna Jameson or Jesse Jane. Many of the people who watch Gonzo typically want to see more extreme stuff and they consider anal to be "harder" sex. But with some of those people it doesn't stop at anal. It starts with wanting to see anal, then anal with the biggest guys they can think of, then DPs, then gangbangs. I'm not sure how much pressure there is to do anal from directors or agents. From the agent point of view doing anal means getting more work for their client and thus more money for them. For a director, they might want a girl to do anal if they think fan demand to see a first anal will sell more product.
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earthwindfire Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 17 2014 : 10:07PM
The overwhelming majority of porn consumers want to see anal. Just read this board and you will see endless posts talking about anal this, anal that, DP this, Gangbang that. It is what sells the most. This is probably the most concentrated place on the internet with people who actually PAY for porn. So, if we assume ADT is a good sample of the paying consumer, then we have to also assume that anal, DP,s and more are necessary for a porn producer to be successful long term. The girls are being "pressured" to do it, because quite frankly, their career most likely will not be very busy if they won't do anal after they are past the "New starlet" phase. The porn market expects a progression as the career goes along, and if the girl does not progress to anal , dps, groups, and so on the consumer will lose interest in them. Yes, there are plenty of guys that don't care bout the anal. But, especially with porn directors having a hard time right now getting people to pay for their product, they need to put in the sex acts that sell the most. This site, which like I said is likely the biggest concentration of people who actually pay for porn, are showing thread after thread asking when girls will do anal ,DP,s, and ask when they will do double anal, multiple guy gangbangs, and want to see the girls slapped, choked, and so on and so forth. The girls are asked to do it because that is what the paying consumer is demanding. "hey ms Avluv... I loved your TP on brazzers live.... when are you going to get 9 dicks in your ass at once??? please!". That kind of idea. The girls have no choice if they want a long career. Yes, there are many examples of girls who made it long term without anal, but in the scope of the porn market, it is a very small number. I personally want anal in my porn because first, I love it. Secondly, it is something that only a portion of real life women do, and thus, I don't get it enough over the years in my personal life .So, porn is that fantasy to get what we want.
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Posted - Mar 18 2014 : 12:48AM
^ Most of the comments you're talking about come from the same group of posters who obsessively post the same kind of demands in every single performer's thread. A noisy, annoying minority is not the same thing as "an overwhelming majority."
Really? Nature demonstrates that being the loudest is not proof that one is the biggest. I suppose AVN may carry sales numbers but if those are self-reported then I would take them with a grain of salt. At any rate, if a performer knows that she is missing out on X percentage of possible gigs, and she is currently making less than she would like to then there is an obvious incentive to do anal which does not involve pleasing a bunch of anal fanatics. Just as obviously, it is good marketing to claim that she wants to please that group, regardless.
The Consumer Audience is split, there are People who like to watch Anal and there are people who are turned off and disgusted by Anal, Anal is unclean I have seen so many nasty Bloopers and outtakes that involve Anal,back in the 90s and 80s Porn sold just as well as it does now and Anal was not in demand if a Porn Actress didnt do Anal it wasnt a big deal like it is today,The risk for HIV and other diseases is much more higher with Anal than with Vaginal cause of the risk of Bleeding and Fecal Contact and most Performers who do Anal Perform in Gonzo where Condoms are absent, I thought u would be a little more understand giving the fact that u are a fan of 80s Porn where Anal wasnt popular.Back in the day if Consumers wanted to see more Anal they would buy Gay Male/Male Porn. Edited by - JadaBlaze01 on 3/18/2014 9:06:37 AM
No ur wrong on a few points when a Female Performer does too much Anal/DP/DAP she will be used and washed up in a few years I was watching a Documentary that exposed this, let me use 2 examples Skin Diamond and Misty Stone, I think Misty Stone's career is gonna progress further and last longer because of the fact that she is more tamed and non anal, Skin Diamond is at the top right now cause she is doing soo many Anal Hardcore scenes but the industry is only gonna wear her out until they find the next hardcore extreme Performer to replace her its like the industry uses somthing Fresh hot and new until it wears off, its like Belladonna's popularity is slowly fading she was another hardcore Performer thats fading, girls who dont do a lot of Hardcore Anal/ Gangbang scenes stay around longer cause they keep People wondering if they are ever gonna do such acts or will they ever push themselves that far. Edited by - JadaBlaze01 on 3/18/2014 9:21:29 AM
I don't know but I don't like it, the pressuring I mean, no more than I like the pressuring for doing IR, Gang Bangs , ATMs , DPs , extra big dicks and whatever , Even though I'm well aware that most of porn is acted , I'd like to know that a star does something she's not in discomfort with , if not good time at least not bad. There's plenty of girls who actually like or don't dislike lots of kinky sex it's not just the money , it's sick to have them underused in order to force or better pressure those who do that just for the money. I never had a problem with those no anal stars , some of them are stunningly beautiful , some are awesome performers or just plainly hot while performing , why would somebody ruin their attitude? I wouldn't
I've said elsewhere that for me the great increase in the popularity of anal scenes was in compensation for the absence of real BDSM with sex. Back in the feature days plots and buildups could capture a viewer's imagination enough for him (and it was always "him") to enjoy a straight sex act. Once features became economically non-viable through the race to the bottom in costs/piracy/ease of shooting with a handheld, then the only ways to distinguish between a trillion similar sex scenes with no other distinguishing feature were: 1. Exceptional looks 2. More raunch Now exceptional looks are a scarce commodity, but if there were there, a girl like Jenna J or Janine or Felecia could make a living with simple b-g sex, or even just lez. Whereas as somebody else mentioned, everbody has an arse. The influx of supermodel calibre women from the East queered the pitch however; if a stunner like Lea Martini or Sandy Style is willing to take it up the arse in every scene, how are you going to compete? The answer is to tap the "submissive female" genre that so many men (and again, they are all men) like. Now, I have no problems either with anal (which I like in real life enough to not mind the logistics/"accidents" involved with it), or with submissive females. In fact, I love both a lot, and for the same reason. For me the appeal of real life anal sex goes beyond the tactile pleasure of tightness (and actually in most ways the pussy feels much better)m and has NOTHING to do with "dirty" or "forbidden", and certainly not with humiliating my partner. But there is a very strong psychological appeal, the sense of trust and acceptance that you get from the lady in what is a very vulnerable and potentially painful situation for her. The fact that it's NOT painful since you know what you're doing and are not hung like a pornstar (and most of us aren't, admit it) adds a huge amount to the emotional impact of the act. The same holds for the very mild B&D that I like to perform with partners who will accept it: binding, blindfolding, some spanking (certainly no "yes, master" nonsense). It's not the sense of domination that does it, it's the sense of availability and trust on the part of the lady. Anyway, I digress. My own tastes are not universal of course, in fact they are probably not even typical. What I think IS typical however is that a lot of men love submissive and promiscuous women in principle, and porn provides them that. The problem however is that traditional porn bondage is either too structured and often creepy, basically too fetishy. There's nothing wrong with fetish of course, but we're talking about mainstream here. The male mainstream likes submission but doesn't necessarily like rubber/PVC, silly "master" talk, filthy dungeons instead of nice beds, probably doesn't like even the mildest whipping/spanking. Then of course for a very long time BDSM with penetration was banned in the US. See all those Bruce 7 movies from the 90s: there's a tying up/fake whipping segment, THEN the girl is taken down and a normal sex scene ensues. For me it's clear that anal stepped in to compensate for that, and by anal I don't mean the simple act but the whole palette of idiotic and unerotic paraphernalia that were developed in the turn of the century: DAP; gapes; A2M, farting out sperm; and so on. Now that real BDSM is here and expanding, I see no reason for this silliness to continue. The act itself sure, nothing wrong with that; as I mentioned, in principle it's one of my favourites. But the act as a humiliation ritual has no reason to exist now that you can get your humiliation kicks elsewhere. Imp. Edited by - Imperator on 3/18/2014 11:26:53 AM
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Posted - Mar 18 2014 : 11:41AM
Have you ever seen or read any interviews with Skin Diamond? I don't know her personally, but I greatly doubt that she began doing anal due to pressure or merely to increase her popularity. She seems committed to pushing/testing her boundaries and exploring her sexuality in the relatively safe environment that porn provides. Furthermore, on what basis do you conclude that Skin Diamond's popularity is due only or mostly to her shooting anal scenes? She is a fully engaged, intense, and energetic performer who seems to authentically enjoy sex. I'd argue that it is her strength as a performer that has propelled her career forward, not an over reliance on anal scenes.
I don't care if there is anal in a flick or not, never have had a need to see actress X perform anal, and am not a huge fan of anal only flicks at all. I was just trying to answer your question based on what I have seen here over the years.
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Posted - Mar 18 2014 : 3:52PM
Cant make no one do anal if they don't wont to...but i never buy movies unless theres at least 3 out of 5 anal scenes in em...all anal ''GREAT''
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Tiger_y Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 18 2014 : 6:28PM
How many porn movies released these days have anal theme...? In comparison to like ten years ago...?
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Superdeluxe Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 18 2014 : 6:35PM
Forced, get the fuck out of here. Then explain how Janine, Jenna J and many other had long non anal careers, hell, Sara J has never done anal and she is still in the biz more than a decade later. I love anal and wish every woman did it, but guess what, who cares. The last thing I ever want to see is any woman performing an act or with a partner they don't care for. Forced, that really sounds like a less than intelligent claim.
I can only see my own sales numbers, but our anal category (where we only put all-anal or almost all anal movies in) makes up less than 10% of our total sales, so it's absolutely not the most popular category with our customers. Jacco
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Ronald Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 18 2014 : 9:29PM
I dont just ant anal I demand it, and DP too, seriously, why watch porn if you can't see what is hard to get? Nobody wants to see some artsy fartsy movie without anal. As for pressure to do it, it sells videos,so I'm sure there is pressure, and at my house I pressure women into doing it too! Edited by - Ronald on 3/18/2014 9:30:40 PM
People need to keep in mind that the people on this site aren't a true representation of the total porn audience. This is mostly a site of hardcore Gonzo type porn fans. If this site truly was a reflection of what porn watchers/buyers watched all porn would be mostly IR, anal, DPs, gangbangs with with big butt women who don't have implants. That's not exactly accurate but those are the things that people are the most vocal about here. Keep in mind that many people here don't like parody porn, most feature porn, and studios like DIGITAL PLAYGROUND, VIVID, etc...yet every month on most sales charts all that stuff are among the top sellers. Girls don't have to do anal. It all depends what type of pornstar they want to be. Lisa Ann is a specific type of pornstar, Jesse Jane is a specific type of pornstar. Sara Jay is a specific type of pornstar. It might sound craz to some but Sara Jay's career wouldn't be better if she did anal and neither would Jesse Jane's if she did it during her career. So many people wanted to see anal from Alexis Texas before she did it. When she finally did from what I can tell it didn't have a major impact on her career. Someone like Sheena Shaw does fantastic anal scenes and that's what she's become known for and that's become her thing but if she ever did anything for DIGITAL PLAYGROUND, or SWEET SINNER, or GIRLFRIEND FILMS her anal acrobatics wouldn't even be allowed because that's not what the audience for those studios are interested in.