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lenecplusultra
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Posted - Mar 27 2010 : 10:46PM
Is there any other industry where there is as many stars as in porn?
WOW, it's just seems like almost every person that has done one porn scene in their life is referred to as a porn"star". Is it really all it takes? Are you really a pornstar as long as you appear in porn movies?
This for me sucks because I know there are true stars in the porn industry, but overusing the term just takes so much away from the poeple who deserve that title.
In music, acting, journalism etc, the term star is used for people that truly deserve it one way or the other. Either because a lot of people like them, or they can just perform better that most people that do that job. In porn, star means participant.
Can someone explain to me why the term is being abused in the porn industry.
gingerlee
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5/06
Posted - Mar 27 2010 : 10:59PM
Would you rather certain people be called 'chicks who do porn' or some other term as opposed to porn star?
duefuss
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Posted - Mar 27 2010 : 11:05PM
Can't tell you for sure, but I can guess.
First the porn business isn't mainstream. They can pretty much call their performers anything they want, and nobody's going to notice. They could call them porn godesses (and have) if they want. It's not like Roger Ebert is going to write a scathing commentary about the overuse of the term.
Second, it's one of those things that someone started and it just stuck. Like the word 'star' itself meaning a popular actor. A star is a giant ball of hot gas in space, not a movie actor. Someone used it because he got tired of saying 'principal player' or 'main actor' or whatever and it stuck.
So they're not porn actors, theyre porn stars. Personally, I think the terms a tad derogatory. Anybody can be a star. Not eveyone is an actor-- especially in porn.
BonesJones
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Posted - Mar 27 2010 : 11:45PM
there's no such as acting in porn so everybody is a star.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Mar 27 2010 : 11:49PM
^ Actually, I'd say 90 percent at least of porn is exactly acting.
'Porn star' I think is a hangover from the period of the 70s and 80s when porn actually use to be shown in theatres. I suspect the term was just part of the attempt of the industry to lift itself beyond the gutter back then, and performers like Marilyn Chamber could be legitimately referred to as stars of a sort.
These days, I prefer the term 'porn performer.'
 
gingerlee
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Posted - Mar 28 2010 : 12:03AM
<---calls herself a 'porn chick'.
Algaliarept
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Posted - Mar 28 2010 : 12:48AM
Chris Rock once spoke of this on Howard Stern
He said he thought it was funny that every one in porn was a "porn star" and that there were no porn "bit actors"
Digmen1
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Posted - Mar 28 2010 : 1:02AM
I agree, they are actors, only a few stars.
That is the ones that carry off every scene, and who look great.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Mar 28 2010 : 1:26AM
I think it's just one of those things people say without thinking about it. I don't think it matters much because I don't even necessarily always like the top stars anyway.
Edited by - randomprecision on 3/28/2010 1:28:47 AM
pusciferleg
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Posted - Mar 28 2010 : 1:57AM
@ BonesJones not on the subject but your avatar. That dude sure seems like a phenom. His only loss was a (IMHO) a questionable DQ. He hasn't really faced a top TOP quality opponent yet but he does things I haven't seen in the octagon. Sure would be interesting and I also see great things for him.
Back on topic,
Reminds me of wrestling at least WWE, they are referred to as Superstars, even if they are very low on the totem pole and do not win. If your in the industry, or in WWE's case, their company it's just a title. I have definitely seen reports/documentaries like on cnn that refer to them as "porn actress" or "adult performer". These reports are not from the industry, go to AVN awards (I have not been) and most of the girls are referred to as Porn Stars, I would guess, and have seen on G4's visits to the show that this is the case.
So I think it's a title to not be taken as %100 precise definition of the performer, but as an adjective describing their profession. In certain cases main stream reports on the adult industry will call the performers "Porn Stars" but I would give that to research. From my experience when there is a true "Star" of porn some of the adjectives are Top tier, Headline, prominent, and others to acknowledge the headlining ability of the performer.
I do agree that the term is over used. IMO this applies to our society in general. Everything is extreme or ultimate or watch "Dancing with the stars" and tell me how many stars there really are, some yes but for the most part? I have to disagree. "Reality Stars"? ... STARS? for me I would rather refer to Jamie Elle as a star than the majority of the douche bags that are now called stars on main stream TV.
It's a good question that you have brought up without a doubt. I'm not trying to make your statement incorrect at all. I just have to say it's a society question rather than a adult industry question. I hate certain terminology now a days and star is one of them but I guess the main stream use of the word, when I have to see it every 5 to 10 minutes, bothers me much more than the "underground, or pay to see" use of the word for Adult Performers".
With all the girls in the porn business I gotta add that "star" is in the eye of the beholder specifically with sex.
Good question, made me think.
lenecplusultra
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Posted - Mar 28 2010 : 11:19AM
gingerlee wrote: -Would you rather certain people be called 'chicks who do porn' or some other term as opposed to porn star?
No,for sure not, I really don't have a term in mind and don't think I have enough standing in the porn industry for my term to stick anyways. I am just a little baffled by the excessive use of the term.
I mean,
there are millions of singers, only a few are called stars
there are millions of actors(non porn), only a few are called stars
there are millions of athletes, only a few get called stars
I could go on and on .....
But switch to porn, there are I don't know how many people who do porn and they all get called stars. It's just a little strange to call some of the people stars, when they haven't proven themselves yet, or in the case of others, they have been around for a while and have never done anything major, but the term that is used to describe outstanding people is used for them as well. As I already said in the first post, I think that it just takes too much away from people who should actually be called pornstars.
UnkwnUsr2
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Posted - Mar 28 2010 : 12:34PM
The meaning of the word "porn star" is not analogous to the word "star" in a mainstream sense.
"Porn star" simply means someone who does professionally produced porn in front of the camera. That's all there is to it. I don't see how this would be hard to understand.
It is similar to how when you call someone an asshole you don't actually mean that he is the same size, shape, etc. as a human asshole.
Rosco Fuji
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Posted - Mar 29 2010 : 9:43PM
They are probably called Porn Stars because they "Star" in porn and it's a lot more polite to use the term loosely and call them porn stars than to call them porn sluts. Back in the 80's a lot of girls were called Porno Queens even though royal hierachy would allow for only one queen in a region. But if one really wanted to split hairs, you'd have to call 95% of them performers and maybe 5% stars.
simon33333 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Mar 30 2010 : 12:00AM
Calling someone an asshole is denouncing them, and other bad words in this society when people tell people off is
based on their ill feelings. But I will say one thing when people say porn it bothers me. People that do not like the stuff and think poorly of the people that watch it is wrong. Labeling it as Porn is what i hate. Adult perfomer is much better even though this could to be argued by thousands that say porn is bad and it deserves the name,its there choice. I believe that the performers deserve respect. So many people say they want to be seen buying the 'porn". Personally i d do not care. I walk right into a porn room and see my local barber there, we are all human. Regarding saying who gest the higher credits, the awards come out from AVN, however though every person has their own choice as to who they like . That is why the site is so good. we tell the performers we like them.They apprciate it. We all want them to feel welcome because they all count! Some performers may not care they are called porn stars,i just believe they should have an upgrade to 'ADULT PERFORMERS'. Some will disagree w/me, thats ok. Freedom of speech.
bsavage
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Posted - Mar 30 2010 : 12:05AM
Because it's decadent.
Same goes for 'rock stars.'
 
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Posted - Mar 30 2010 : 2:28PM
No acting in porn ?! Could have fooled me .
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