I remember reading about all the trouble a certain straight porn company got into for simply selling a movie that contained some girl fisting Cloe.
I'm finishing up my review of Fallen Angel 4, which just in the very first scene has (besides your regular fucking and sucking) pissing, fisting, bondage, nipple clamps, scrotal weights, vomit, whipping and caning. The guy getting abused ends up with serious red welts all over his ass.
I started thinking, what would happen if a straight porno had a scene like that? Ashcroft would be all over it like stink on shit. But this flick has been on the market since mid 2001, with no problems at all. It's not like its by some rinky dink little company that no one has heard of either.
Is it strictly a sexist thing, where it's ok to see men abused, but not women? Or is it a gay/straight thing, where gays are seen as being perverse anyway, so all that fisting and S&M crap is normal?
You mean it isn't? NO just kidding. We're all about protecting the women. as for the men, not so much. We're still in a nation that still practices that certain thing routinely for no medical reason what-so ever on baby boys.
But then again. Ashcroft and the whole religious right aren't watching Gay Porn. and if they are, they aren't telling anyone. Women can be saved from "humulation" of porn. gay men.. well you're all goin to where I "live" so they won't bother with taht.
Here is a perverse thought: The bad things in gay porn just go to prove how horrible and unacceptable homosexuality is -- so why suppress the truth when it just helps the american taliban cause?
~ GaySatyr
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Steve K. Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 15 2002 : 9:28AM
JoeBlow -
That is some sick shit that they do in gay porn. My philosphy is as always whatever floats your boat, but if I ever need to see pisssing, nipple clamps, scrotal weights, whipping and caning then I would admit that I have a problem....that is some sick shit.
I think that the video you described was men doing it to men and woman don't care what men do to each other. But i think when men do thinks like that to woman then there is a big problem even they ars consenting adults. I think the woman put pressure on the men in power to do something or else.
Well, I can say, after seeing and reviewing a gay title, which I will post soon, that gay porn is rougher.
I don't think I would call it sick, as Steve said, because I am not a doctor. But some like to see double anal, triple anal so wouldn't that be called gay. After all two dicks touching seems kinda gay to me, and three, well...
I wouldn't call myself gay, nor would I call myself "straight". I like what I like, and if what I like is considered gay, then so be it. I don't particularily care for labels.
Now I would guess that the reason gay titles are rougher is because in today's society men are still considered stronger, and therefore can take the beating/rough stuff. Women are still considered fragile, delicate little creatures who can not fend for themselves.
I of course do not agree with this, because I've seen some pretty tough women who, given the chance, could snap me like a twig. But I would say that the majority of people would agree that women are fragile, so they can not handle be treated rough.
Yeah, looking back at my description of the scene, it does sound pretty sick, doesn't it? The weird thing is, though, it didn't seem that way to me when I was watching it.
Take the vomiting for example. I remember a thread about those Slap Happy movies a while back where women are face fucked so hard they puke. I think I even may have said myself "that is some sick shit!"
But now I see it happening in this gay porn, and it doesn't seem that bad at all. It's probably due to the fact that it doesn't even faze the guy that vomits. He just turns his head, pukes, and goes back to sucking that big dick. He doesn't care that he's already vomited 3 times. In his mind, he has to suck that dick. It isn't quite as forceful as the Slap Happy films are described, because the suckee is willing.
Same goes for all the whipping... for every guy that likes to whip people, there is a guy that wants to get whipped. If I knew the bottom wasn't enjoying his whipping, then I wouldn't enjoy the scene.
While thumbing through the current issue of AVN, I noticed a full two-page ad for the "Dungeon Diaries" series, which included artwork for about 25 titles. Depictions included: breasts so tightly bound by rope that the blood vessels appeared to have burst and caused them to turn purple; clothespins on virtually every inch of many women; collars and chains; food smeared all over one woman; ball gags aplenty; plastic-wrap mummification; hot wax all over a few girls; oh, and mousetraps on the labia of a woman who looks like your school librarian. I personally didn't find anything erotic about it. Rather, I found it to be bizarre, perverse, even deplorable. But that's just me. I'm sure a few of you reading this think that sounds pretty hot. I've also seen one of the "Fallen Angel" titles, and it didn't do anything for me, but it was overall fairly well done, both points that I noted in my review of it. Again, that's just my opinion. But to say that either one of these rather extreme series is a typical gay or straight porn title isn't all that accurate. I think the vast majority of gay porn is the rather vanilla scenario of kissing, stripping, mutual oral action, penetration, and orgasms. That exact description also fits a good percentage of standard straight porn titles. Fetish is a whole other animal, and is generally produced for a niche audience, not for the mainstream. I can't explain governmental policy inconsistencies, but who the hell can?! Joe, I'm sure that if you just look around a bit, you could easily find something that's just as extreme, if not moreso, in a straight porn title (there's certainly a lot more of those than gay titles). Not that you're looking...heheh.
