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OT092
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10/23
Posted - Oct 24 2023 : 10:49PM
I've heard many people say it's really hard to find good new male talent. With the rise of OnlyFans, it seems like there's a larger pool of male talent to pick from now. I've also heard the industry is very closed off for new male talent. Not so much for new girls.

What is the industry looking for when it comes to male talent (aside from the obvious stuff, i.e. looks, dick size)?

King Razor
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235 Posts
10/20
Posted - Oct 25 2023 : 12:46AM
No there is not a larger pool to pick from. Banging a girl in the privacy of your own home is very different than being on a set fucking in front of strangers.
ninja1
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Posted - Oct 25 2023 : 9:46PM
Onlyfans and other DIY porn makes the pool smaller because the competent/qualified guys no longer have to depend on the studios to hire them; they can be their own porn company.
belksearch
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136 Posts
9/22
Posted - Oct 26 2023 : 12:32AM
Feels like the only new white male performer to break through in a while is Zac Wild. Lot of good new black performers though.
HungFreddy
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18 Posts
1/23
Posted - Nov 2 2023 : 5:03PM
I think when somebody comes along in an industry who sets the bar so damn high that it's impossible to even come close, then it has a negative downstream effect for years to come.

For porn males, that guy was Peter North. Dude had the most legendary cum shooter of a cock, and 99.999% of all men on Earth felt vastly inferior to him when it came to the fucking game. Why is any young guy age 22-28 even gonna try to break into the jizz biz when they know they will be compared to him? It's a lot easier to find a different line of work where you can at least be competitive. Guys like Jesse Loads are the closest thing to Peter North in terms of cum load size and velocity, but he was not much to look at and you can tell women were not impressed with his appearance like they were with a chiseled tanned Adonis like Peter.

Same thing happened when Eddie Van Halen broke on the music scene in the late 70's. Sure, it spawned a lot of imitators, but by 1990 just about every aspiring rock guitarist decided to go grunge or alternative because trying to spend thousands of hours of practice to only be 1/10th as good as Eddie seemed like a very poor return on investment.

Edited by - HungFreddy on 11/2/2023 5:05:53 PM

 
Molasseslime
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48 Posts
9/21
Posted - Nov 3 2023 : 2:35AM
Most people people don't like fucking in front of strangers for the whole world to see. It's literally that simple. On top of that, the job is very difficult.
InstantClassic
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What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy?
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Posted - Nov 3 2023 : 2:54AM
The Vixen Group shows how it's done. They bring fresh faces into the business every year. But many directors are their own biggest fans and put themselves in every scene...even though they might not belong there. And when they need backup, they call their middle-aged 50 or 60 year old buddies from the 2000s. I think that's why many studios don't want to invest money and time in younger and more suitable talent. But as I said, the Vixen Group does it regularly.
Blast
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286 Posts
6/22
Posted - Nov 3 2023 : 6:34AM
Imagine a world where

You work with various beautiful women. You get paid well. Average girl on streets can recognise you.

That is how the world is..but for female porn starlets. Good pay and huge male fan base. Which is why some incredible women work in industry and have worked in industry.

Male talent, on the other hand, has one thing only. Working with very beautiful girls. You will be overworked to limit, you will have to be athletic, no one knows you or cares.

I think fair casting calls for male talent is also not happening. People get in, somehow. It is very narrow pool.

What studios need to do is stop overworking male talent and increase pay per shoot. Women will always be the star of show and that's how we like it but story oriented movies can give male talent more appearance.

Dirty__MARK
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4 Posts
11/21
Posted - Feb 1 2024 : 7:04AM
you were absolutely right when you wrote this, Zach was really the only new male talent that guaranteed a good stage, but at the end of 2023 Vince Karter joined the American industry, Damn, he is so amazing performers, I haven't met a more talented newcomer since I started follow male performers (2016).
Charlie Brown
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Posted - Feb 1 2024 : 10:56AM
But Zac Wild is also not necessarily what I expect from a pro talent. Chris Diamond is for me the last proto type of a male talent that appeared on stage. He did a handful of scenes and went to OF.... like everyone else.
Tony Spumoni
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110 Posts
12/23
Posted - Feb 1 2024 : 11:38AM
I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that it's challenging work, the pay isn't great, and a lot of female performers just prefer to work with people who they are familiar with or have a good reputation which makes it difficult for new male talent to find work. There seems to be a little more variety recently, there was a time not that long ago where I would swear that half or more of all output from every studio featured JMac, Peter Green, or Tony Rubino, one of those three would be in almost everything, they must have been shooting a dozen or more scenes each week, I can't imagine keeping up with that. It's gotten somewhat better, Peter and Tony still show up a lot, I barely see JMac anymore not sure what happened to him, but there's definitely been some additional male performers out there being used.
RichardLong
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150 Posts
11/11
Posted - Feb 6 2024 : 1:43PM
We definitely need some new studs

The aging out of the likes of Peter North, Lex Steele, Tom Byron, etc etc

I thought Ice Cold had some potential but that's 10 years ago already

InstantClassic
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What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy?
2966 Posts
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Posted - Feb 6 2024 : 2:01PM
Many male talents are now also doing their own thing on OF.
Whyspers2Scorpio
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Posted - Feb 7 2024 : 12:41AM
I'm no expert since I mainly watch G/G scenes but one thing I do notice with the male talent when it comes to Pure Taboo and MissaX is that the issue isn't one of being able to keep your dick hard - the question is can you actually act? Can you create a scorcher of a scene with female talent that is going to have me feeling like my pants are three sizes too small?? From the scenes I have watched with the newbies, that is what they are missing: Nathan Bronson, Chad White, Small Hands, Xander Corvus and Seth Gamble can literally slip into any role making it totally believable.
I_Luv_Beejays
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118 Posts
12/18
Posted - Apr 22 2024 : 6:52AM
You're joking right? lmao.

Vince is a horrible performer, dude can't even ejaculate. He ruined Euro porn now has come to the US to do the same thing lol, the fact is is somewhat popular is comical.
80% of male talent can't cum outside of a few drops lol, don't get me started on fake cum.

It's the worst era for male talent in the last 20 years.

 
onlybalogna
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721 Posts
10/15
Posted - Apr 22 2024 : 7:23AM
Porn director Just Dave put out a video on this topic years ago. Here's what it comes down to. Doing porn on the male side is much more challenging then it is for women. Women just have to get the nerve up to fuck in front of other people and act like their really into it, even if they aren't.

Dudes have to be able to get it up in front of a bunch of other people. You might be surprised how much having an audience makes it difficult to get an erection. You have to be able to get hard on command, stay hard for hours, and then bust a nut on command. You have to stay hard through reshoots, hours of taking stills, with a director bitching about how much time things are taking, and possibly with a partner who has a bad attitude.

Most dudes just can't do it, and there's nothing wrong with that. But it's the reason it takes so much to get a male performer black listed. It's simply much easier to find new female talent than it is to find new male talent.

Edited by - onlybalogna on 4/22/2024 7:23:42 AM

I_Luv_Beejays
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118 Posts
12/18
Posted - Feb 15 2025 : 9:42PM
cool story bro!

Most of the good performers can do it no problems.

Ian_13
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Posted - Feb 17 2025 : 1:38PM
Yeah, but the number of good performers is pretty damn small, so it's kinda annoying to see the same guys over and over and over and over and over ad infinitum. You do realize that Caverject exists, correct, as well as Viagra? At the same time, it is pretty hard, to use the stalest pun ever. I was talking to a lady on OF yesterday who's part of 101 Modeling, and out of the 40 guys that are on the roster, I noted that only 7 of them seem to get regular bookings in hetero scenes, and probably a lot of them do bi or gay for pay, which is much easier to do. I've actually done some "scenes" that turned out to be scams that I was never paid for, and of those scenes, I was only successful in two of them (more so the 3rd one).
InstantClassic
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What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy?
2966 Posts
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Posted - Feb 17 2025 : 2:19PM
I don't think studios are looking for good male talent at all. They are looking for the budget solution. Many 50, 60-year-old directors put themselves in front of the camera because they don't want to spend any money on male talent. And if you look at smaller studios and networks - the talent in front of the camera is grotesque. They don't even care if the guy gets an erection or differs from a thumb. It's all about saving money.

The Vixen Group shows that there are plenty of good male talents out there, bringing good young talents to light time and time again. But every other studio just wants to save money in this respect.

belksearch
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136 Posts
9/22
Posted - Feb 19 2025 : 8:33PM
Interesting point from Cherry Kiss:

"How is shooting porn in Europe different than it is over here?

Cherry: Here is the center of the world as far as the movie or entertainment industry goes. It's a lot bigger, there are a lot more performers, What is different is here they struggle with the guys. So many people do OnlyFans and quit porn so there are a lot of girls but not men. In Europe, you have a lot of guys who are very good performers. A lot more than here."


Source: https://interviews.adultdvdtalk.com/cherry-kiss/

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