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| Rainbow1 Deactivated User 18 Posts 4/11 |  Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 6:14AMWhy are more and more adult studios finding a hard time making really great gonzo style erotic lesbian sex porn videos??? Can anyone answer this?? It seems like theres a real unfair double standard when it comes to some studios who are willing to make exclusive lesbian smut compared to other studios that pretend to make lesbian smut that isnt really original, isnt hardcore, isnt erotic, isnt sex filled with lots of nasty all-girl action . Why do companies like Triangles films and Abigail productions continue to make big time lesbian epic movies with no serious sex in them....but then other studios like Evil Angel , Elegant Angel and others only make occassional lesbian flicks, with big name porn superstars. Its becoming seriously more difficult to find any brave company that will make mainstream gonzo lesbian hardcore sex videos all the time anymore. Anyone else with some opinions and solutions about this problem in the adult entertainment world today?? Edited by - Rainbow1 on Apr 30 2011 [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 6:21AM [Link] |
| Rainbow1 Deactivated User 18 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 6:29AM Edited by - Rainbow1 on 4/30/2011 6:30:46 AM [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 6:33AM If however you're only another incarnation of the infamous "squirt idiot", your schtik is getting very very very stale. [Link] |
| Rainbow1 Deactivated User 18 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 6:35AM And that whole banning thing?? Yeah , one word of advice for you IT DOESNT WORK ON ME OK?? (;-() Edited by - Rainbow1 on 4/30/2011 6:36:46 AM [Link] |
| angryassdrummer Member 559 Posts 3/11 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 6:42AM acting like the people on here are the ones making all the calls in the whole porn industry. take a chill pill [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 6:44AM [Link] |
| Rainbow1 Deactivated User 18 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 6:51AM oh wait sorry if i offend you with my caps!!! The problem is lots of forum users donot express what they really want to see in their porn movies today so lots of stupid companys keep making the same crap . So thats why im on here to express my total dissatisfaction with mainstream adult porno , I want my hardcore lesbian sex porn OK?? :) Thank you very much .
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| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 6:58AM [Link] |
| angryassdrummer Member 559 Posts 3/11 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 7:02AM vote with your wallet when you find a company whether online or dvds that makes what you want buy it. if something doesnt sell they wont make the same thing anymore. maybe, hardcore lesbian porn wasnt selling>? if they are going to make money of something they will do it. if you dont like a certain companies style of lesbian porn dont buy it. all you can do really [Link] |
| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 7:29AM XO Mindee [Link] |
| angryassdrummer Member 559 Posts 3/11 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 8:11AM i had a few babes in pornland and she pounds some young girls especially the "exotic babes" edition [Link] |
| Rainbow1 Deactivated User 18 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 8:32AM [Link] |
| jfarley Member 242 Posts 5/09 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 8:55AM I'm not into rough sex, but as AFAICT the whole point of it is male domination of a submissive female. That is obviously lost in lesbian sex, and perhaps why you will only find what you are looking for in niche markets. [Link] |
| Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 9:48AM There are lots and lots of good productions for every taste, but if you are a male pig like me and you want supermodel-quality looks, no boob-jobs, few or no toys, tons of foreplay and genuine, or really well-faked orgasms, I have two words for you: Viv Thomas. He has done TV magazine-style episode format (Sandy Babe Abroad), feautures (Pink Velvet, or the astonishing Unfaithful series), pseudo-documentary ("Our Movie", the "Sex Tapes" series, and particularly any movie with Vera in the cast). They are invariably awesome. Forget the "production values", which are great BTW, I'm talking about the sex here. Tremendous stuff Even his unsuccessful experiments would get at least a 3.0 rating from me, had I still be writing reviews. lezlovevideo stock them (all 80 of them, counting compilations), and the reviews in that site are mostly accurate and will help you. Pick and choose, but if in doubt get anything with "Jo", "Vera" or "Nella" starring in it. Imperator [Link] |
| Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 9:56AM Imperator [Link] |
BlackSix  All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 10:05AM Edited by - BlackSix on 4/30/2011 10:05:19 AM [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 10:12AM [Link] |
| Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 10:19AM Anyway, I made my recommendation and I described my tastes, so hopefully people can find it useful. Imperator [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 10:22AM [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 10:59AM I kind of liked those Bruce Seven movies (loved some of them actually) : the energy, the oil, the anal, Porsche Lynn... [:P)] Edited by - Joey Starr on 4/30/2011 11:01:53 AM [Link] |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 1:20PM [Link] |
| Rainbow1 Deactivated User 18 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 1:50PM Now that guy, that director, KNEW HIS LESBIAN SEX STUFF RIGHT (;O) Thats what Im talking about!!!! I want a return to the good old days , with all the reality based hardcore gonzo lesbian slippery oily wet girl on girl REAL SEX. Others have mentioned Belladonna, but her movies has missed the point . Ive watched her performances and I have to honestly tell you that , her version of girl on girl is basically , "Johnny Knoxvile style lesbian nonsense". Belladonna always picks the most unattractive women in porn, has them eating toes and wasting lots of time sucking on dildos and its just not a real turn on ok?? Now the Bitchcraft series I still support and even recently with Evil Angels Pretty Sloppy series, I was starting to support , but now its just a return to the same old half assed lesbian sex porn effort. So why cant there be another original studio like Bruce Sevens productions?? I mean bring back his wife: Bionca Sevens even. She really helped Bruce create the best lesbo gonzo sex series ever: Where The Girls Sweat and Buttslammers.I am really FUCKING sick of the same crap that the mainstream studios make these days !!!! Studios like Triangles Films, Abigail productions, The L Factor and Girlfriends Films are only interested in making lesbian fantasy type movies with lots of beautiful women, put them on film and have them basically do a showcase of lesbian seduction roles that really donot amount to much hardcore juicy nasty all-girl on girl sex. Now you know what im talking about??? :( But the other studios like Evil Angel, Elegant Angel, JM Productions, Combat Zone, Anabolic Videos, and even 3rd degree studios only want to make occasional lesbian porn videos with big name stars who basically perform overly hyper lesbian porn that involves a lot of dildo sucking, kissing, spankings, eating pussy and then...it leaves you wanting more but doesnt deliver more .... Either way, its an unfair injustice to fans of 1990s style gonzo girl on girl sex porn and thats why im here to make my point very LOUD AND CLEAR!!!! Bring back Bruce Sevens, Bionca Sevens , Strap-On Sally type videos ok??? Get the biggest names in porn today like Flower Tucci, Jayden James, Kelly Divine, Phoenix Marie, Tori Black and others , put them in the most oilest, wettest, pussy strap-on fucking sex filled, pussy squirt filled sex videos EVERRRR. No fake sex, no hype, no artistic fantasy plots, NONE OF THAT !!! Just have hardcore lesbian sex that really turns the viewers on you know?? Thats what Bruce Sevens was able to do back in the 1990s: turn people on with good realistic lesbian sex porn Okay more of your thoughts and honest opinions (;O) [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 2:05PM The lesbian DVDs from Cruel Media are pretty intense with squirting and fisting. I've heard some lesbian titles from Killergram were also in this "energetic" style but have yet to watch any DVDs from them. [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 2:37PM [Link] |
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| Rainbow1 Deactivated User 18 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 4:44PM Yes I have seen Cruel Media's lesbian videos , but its all overly hypersex nonsense, from Clara G. Shes like the European version of America's mainstream porn director and performer Belladonna. What im talking about is something just like Cruel Medias take on the whole hardcore lesbian gonzo sex fetish theme, but with real girl on girl action, and filmed, directed, and produced by American studios with an all American pornstar cast of the most talented sexy women who are really truly passionate about their lesbian sex acts on camera. So I wish that a studio such like Evil Angel would go beyond their normal standards and START MAKING really nasty erotic levels of mainstream levels of hardcore lesbian piss drinking, lesbian piss facials, lesbian strap-on oily asshole/pussy dildo fucking , and just AVOID ALL THE UNNECCESARY LESBIAN FAKE BULLSHIT CRAP!!!! I have some good ideas like PRETTY SLOPPY , I even had a nice picture for it , until someone removed it!!!! GRRRRR (;( :) Anyways, I really love my hardcore lesbian sex porn and I wont stop searching or making comments about it until finally someone answers my challenge. Edited by - Rainbow1 on 4/30/2011 4:44:59 PM Edited by - Rainbow1 on 4/30/2011 4:45:32 PM Edited by - Rainbow1 on 4/30/2011 4:46:08 PM Edited by - Rainbow1 on 4/30/2011 4:46:40 PM Edited by - Rainbow1 on 4/30/2011 4:47:13 PM [Link] |
| Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 5:13PM I personally always hated Bruce's girl-girl stuff, Porsche Lynn notwithstanding. It all looked, well, too industrial. Rubber gloves, oil, elaborate plastic toys. Factory fucking. I can understand the appeal of energetic sex, although I usually seek it in boy-girl, but his stuff looked purposely made as to prevent the girls actually having any bodily contact with each other. The most usual Bruce setup was the infamous daisy-chain of rubber-gloved girls, each connected to the other's pussy with a massive dildo. Call me a wilting pansy if you will, but I fail to find this sexy. Girl-girl sucked in the 90s. In Europe, where porn was as usual better in overall quality, lesbian scenes were brief and cold, while in the US they were either Vivid/VCA pseudo-stylistic crap with boob-jobbed actresses or Bruce Seven's industrial piston-thrusting. It's much better now, and I don't just mean the posh "romantic" stuff. There is so much specialty material around these days that anyone, even our somewhat incoherent OP, should be able to find what they want. For instance you can now have bondage with actual sex (say, Fucking Machines or Dungeon Maidens), which in the 90s was simply not on. And even the posh stuff can get blisteringly hot. One of my favourite examples is g-g rimming: VERY hot activity in my opinion and certainly not "romantic", it was almost unknown in the 90s; PJ Sparxx is the only exception I can think of who really dove in, so to speak. It's now ubiquitous in the posh Eurobabe lesbian material. It seems that the more spectacular the beauty, the more fanatic she gets about asslicking; Sandy, Nella, Cameron Cruise, Vera and the rest are all champions of this particular sport. OK, so it isn't "the most oilest, wettest, pussy strap-on fucking sex filled, pussy squirt filled sex videos EVERRRR" (TM), but it's better than the 90s crap. Imperator [Link] |
| Rainbow1 Deactivated User 18 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 6:06PM BUTTSLAMMERS EVERYBODY WANTS SOME  WHERE THE GIRLS SWEAT ALL DIRECTED, PRODUCED AND FILMED BY : BRUCE SEVENS AND BIONCA SEVENS So why cant todays porn studios make all this?? Hardcore gonzo slippery oily wet lesbian sex sex sex and more sex! Edited by - Rainbow1 on 4/30/2011 6:07:28 PM [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 3:35AM Bruce Seven is one of the few directors in porn whose stuff I always found arousing in some way or other, even if in his series the sex could be interpreted as formulaistic and repetive to the casual outsider. Edited by - Joey Starr on 5/1/2011 3:36:03 AM [Link] |
| Atomicroo New Member 3 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 12:41AM Seems to be plenty of Lesbian, Straight, Gay and male Bi porn out there. But nothing for the bi woman. Nearly every bi title I've seen is about 2 guys and one girl. When you do see FFM action, it's usually 2 girls mostly focusing on the guy. [Link] |
| axlsfury Senior Member 1110 Posts 7/04 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 8:37AM [Link] |
| bootymeister Senior Member Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity 1589 Posts 11/08 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 4:20PM There is now no extra-gonzo lesbian sex in porn. Lesbians who just want to get each other off. Hedonistic, purely physical or extra-nasty gonzo lebsbian that compares to its hetero counterpart does not exist unless it is about ass eating or licking clean a dildo from another woman's ass. I miss the porn that was all about the all-in, penetrating pussy eating. But it did not sell. Also, it pays its performers less. FFM 3-ways which either begin with just major G/G sex before the male joins in or 3-ways in which there is serious G/G sex while the male is involved has mysteriously vanished. That is a total mystery to me. Maybe there are not enough truly bisexual porn stars or the bi fad has faded. [Link] |
| Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 5:23PM I think g-g demand just overspecialised, like for everything else in porn of the last 15 years. Boy-girl became gradually more and more extreme, so people (like myself indeed) who like to watch energetic fucking including anal but do not care for choking/gaping/spitting and the like, sought alternatives. Judging from the VEF where I'm also active, a lot of straight males who liked the US porn of the 70s and 80s got turned off by it in the 90s and sought alternatives in the posher types of Euro porn (Dorcel, mainstream Private, some German and Italian brands) as well as the New Lesbian Porn of the Sapphic Erotica and Viv Thomas sort. The appeal of this "new girl-girl" is that (a) it is a more intimate kind of porn; (b) it dispenses with the overly aggressive male stars of today; and (c) it focuses on showing girls getting off (or pretending to, and most are very convincing indeed). Add to this, of course, the constituency of gay women who want to see girls and not guys; they are a small minority perhaps compared to the single men who form the mass of the porn consumer public, but it is a minority who will not consume the market standard (boy-girl with anal, even without the excesses) under any circumstances. So, to this constituency of males looking for intimate sex and gay women, the rubber-gloved, oil-and-strapon extravaganzas of the Bruce Seven tradition are not attractive. They basically remind us too much of modern boy-girl which is what we ran away from in the first place. Neither does MFF attract. The pace of B-G and G-G sex scenes are fundamentally different; G-G is generally slower and more leisurely. So the thinking goes: (1) if we are to watch girl-girl we might as well make it ALL-girl; and (2) if we are to have a guy come in, let's just have a straight-up boy-girl scene. So, for instance Viv Thomas' "mixed" movies have b-g and g-g scenes in them, rather than MMFs or orgies. I personally don't watch them though; when I want to watch b-g I go to my usual Euro or Vintage sources, where the setups are hotter and there is what I call "vanilla anal" (no gapes/ATM etc) which runs more to my taste. Imperator [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 9:17PM What's the VEF? [Link] |
| Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11 | Posted - May 4 2011 : 3:34AM VEF stands for Vintage Erotica Forum. I am not promoting it here as there is some questionable activity ongoing there, over and above the call of preserving out of print titles, but it is a valuable source of information on old and out-of-print material, particularly British and European. The Ranter Formerly Known As Imperator Edited by - Imperator on 5/4/2011 3:35:50 AM [Link] |
| Atomicroo New Member 3 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 4 2011 : 9:08AM I'm more inclined to go for G-G vids, as they tend to be a bit more intimate and the girls do seem to be more into it than in most B-G films, plus again B-G films have changed too much with too much focus on male facial close ups, and guys in every film seeming to finish themselves off now. As for hard core lesbian, what about the superfreak series? I've only seen the first one, but that seemed to be pretty hardcore dyke to me. (though I find women who don't like men sexually simulating men sexually a bit weird, but that's another story. lol) [Link] |
| bootymeister Senior Member Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity 1589 Posts 11/08 | Posted - Jul 11 2011 : 12:07PM One problem is lesbian for pay, particularly porn stars who fake the lesbian sex or give weak performances, but swear they love girls. What is worse is that some of these fakers only do girls on screen. The real serious lesbian sex performers know who they are and some directors know from experience. Why do we have to keep seeing porn stars with other girls who fake the nastiness? [Link] |
| Sexy Sadie All-Star Member I came to turn on everyone 978 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 5:02AM Finding something that is well acted, emotionally and sensually satisfying, but also includes the good stuff - analingus, fisting, (sensibly-sized) dildo action - is a rarity. Haven't seen everything though, so there may well be a studio/producer out there that caters to this market... Edited by - Sexy Sadie on 8/16/2011 5:03:49 AM [Link] |
| Breeze Member One Smokin Hot Chic 532 Posts 11/08 | Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 6:06AM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 12:51PM [Link] |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 1:48PM I haven't seen one site that offers heat, passion and a level of hardcore sex above seeing girls fingering each other. The closest might be Kink's whipped ass but there the BSDM overshadows the lesbian part. Mind you that is one company that could shoot that kind of porn and make it amazing. [Link] |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 1:55PM [Link] |
| evers Deactivated User 231 Posts 8/11 | Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 2:13PM Romantic lesbo is incredibly dull. [Link] |
| ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 2:21PM [Link] |
| evers Deactivated User 231 Posts 8/11 | Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 2:32PM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 4:35PM If you're looking for hardcore lesbian porn, cunnilingus and strap-on stuff are the only things you listed I would consider close to hardcore. I like buttlicking. When I see a hot babe, the first thing I think about is licking her butthole. When I see good cunnilingus, I think how much better it would be if they went for analingus as well. Edited by - randomprecision on 8/16/2011 4:48:27 PM Edited by - randomprecision on 8/16/2011 4:48:54 PM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 4:44PM The idea that it has to be degrading is silly. Cunnilingus isn't degrading, is it? Some people are disgusted by it but just because they think it's nasty doesn't mean it has to be degrading. I don't really care what has been done with buttlicking in movies where the women are supposed to be submissive. That's what those movies are about. We can't even get a man licking a girl's ass because so many people complain about seeing the man's face. You want to talk about women being degraded in porn? How degrading is it for the man to have to be reduced to a disembodied cock and balls with no face and no personality? Not all straight hardcore follows this model but much of it does. At least the woman gets to be seen as a full person. If you're concerned that she is being degraded then she is obviously more than a disembodied body part to you so she's already doing better than the men in many hardcore scenes. Anyway, sorry about the rant. [Link] |
| ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 5:39PM [Link] |
| Sexy Sadie All-Star Member I came to turn on everyone 978 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Aug 21 2011 : 2:33AM [Link] |
| ZeroCool007 Senior Member I'm going to stab you in the throat with a spork!!! 1048 Posts 12/06 | Posted - Sep 30 2011 : 11:34PM [Link] |
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