[/quote] When did she say this? Did she tweet it? [/quote] Luna C Kitsuen's thread on here was closed down because people couldn't get over that she doesn't do ir and never will. What I don't understand is why are blacks alienated in the porn industry? You always hear a porn star do a latino or an asian guy and consider it non-ir but when its a black guy its ir. You'll never hear of an actress that won't do asian guys but will do black guys and white guys. Alexis Texas is overrated by the way. Edited by - nas1960 on 5/1/2014 12:03:38 PM
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Posted - May 2 2014 : 12:31AM
She did?
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Posted - May 2 2014 : 7:18AM
It's because she has an unusually phat round ass for a white girl, some black guy obviously noticed that and started watching her porn, then one day he probably realized that she doesn't fuck black guys and found it strange, it most likely put him off wanting to watch her porn and then some other black guys probably did the exact same thing he did and before you know it there was a massive uproar about the fact that there's some white girl called Alexis Texas with a really phat ass refusing to fuck black guys. It probably blew up from guys on Youtube attending hoe shows like exxxotica repeatedly asking her why she doesn't do IR which in turn has propelled her fame to new heights, she even made it on TMZ not too long ago over the not wanting to do IR situation. I agree on her not being all that performance wise though, I think she's a shit performer and I never even knew who she was until all this "I dont fuck black guys" shit popped up on the internet. Edited by - Ass Destroyer on 5/2/2014 7:19:37 AM
I don't think Christy Mack is a bad person it's just that most possibly either she is scared that she'll lose her racist fans or one of her family members are racist and she doesn't want to lose them. Most probably she has no problem with it but the crowd she is with are. It's war machine that is the real asshole. Edited by - nas1960 on 5/3/2014 9:52:24 AM
I don't think a pornstar should worry about losing a few racist fans in fear of doing IR because the fans who want her to do IR or don't care if she does far outnumber the few racist minded ones. However, I can understand if she worries about losing actual friends and family by doing IR. It's easy for fans to want her to do it to please themselves but that's a pretty scary thing to risk when it comes to alienating your friends and family just to please a bunch of strangers you don't know.
Is there any star who refuses to work with Latinos? Is anybody there taking a count? If any, are they harassed and almost forced to do so in any social media or forum they show up? I'm told not every star is eager to work with Mike Adriano nor Rocco nor Nacho but, apparently nobody gives a fuck to that. There are stars who prefer uncut talents , yet nobody harasses them for racism toward Jewish talents, it is taken as it is, a preference. I really can't understand why anything that involves a black a semi-black or any shades of black automatically is racism social behaviour and sexual behaviour are different things also we don't know for sure their reasons for example , actress Kelly Mac Gillis was raped by two black men, was her a pornstar would you blame her if she refused to work with blacks? Is it just racism or a too hurting memory resurfacing? I sy this because she wasn't even able to play the role of a victim in a movie due to that, it was too hurtful , even acted among a crew. It was so bad she never talked to anybody about that before. I'm not saying every "dodger" is a victim of a rape , I'm just saying they may have reasons they do not want to share, nor talk about them. There are racist , sure, but to assume they are EVERY time isn't fair
As someone who watches both IR and non-IR porn scenes, I say let each pornstar do as they choose and don't hassle them. Unless they make an overtly racist statement or give a racist reason for not doing IR, just leave it be. We have no idea why some people choose or do not choose to do these scenes. Edited by - Mathle21 on 5/4/2014 11:03:40 AM
According to a famous producer/director in porn - only 10% to 20% of girls in porn do interracial, while 80 to 90% of girls wont perform scenes with black men. I do agree that we don't know why these girls wont perform scenes with black men, but for this to be the year 2014, that's an incredibly high number. I can't even imagine what the numbers were like in the 80's/90's and below. Some people seem to think Europe is better, but he says it's the same there to as many won't perform scenes with black men. You would think race wouldn't be such an issue in 2014 in porn, but I guess that's just the way it is.
^ I find those percentages hard to believe...at least of the top mainstream girls in porn. Perhaps it's just the girls I watch but I'm thinking if someone made a list of the top 50-100 girls in porn 60% of them do or have done IR. I could be wrong but for me personally about 70% of the girls I get turned on to have done or do IR. I understand that numer is high because I don't usually watch contract girls or stuff from WICKED, VIVID, etc...
^ Yet even Wicked and Vivid had lots of IR scenes or entire movies even with contract stars for example Julia Ann did two scenes when still on contract for Wicked, Savannah Samson did for Vivid and many more , last one Samantha Saint for Wicked. Anyway I find hard to believe those percentages either , I actually don't pay much attention to the male talent unless it's someone I can't bear to see for different reasons , I only follow girls , I'm not IR fetished meaning I don't look for IR themed movies, yet I discovered that more than half of all my porn is IR or have some IR scenes in IT didn't even realize how much of it I have. as for Europeans , I'm not aware of any star who refused to do IR , yet there are much less IR scenes here mostly because there are very few black talents performing. Some are wrongly labelled as dodgers , more than once Aletta Ocean has been named on this board , yet she did perform some IR scenes plus she's known to have been banging a black performer off set while in the USA. But as I said in Europe there are very few black talents performing less than 10 , some of them don't travel to other countries (Antonio Shaft was one) yet many countries in Europe are porn producers (Czech Republic, Hungary, Germany, Spain, Italy, France, United Kingdom to name a few).Some stars never even had a chance to shot a flick with a black performer. Valentina Nappi prior to come to the States did only three IR scenes in two years in Europe two with Mike Chapman one with Kid Jamaica , her very first scene was an anal on belly IR with Mike Chapman. Edited by - LCF on 5/5/2014 9:14:39 AM
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Posted - May 5 2014 : 1:49PM
I think that it was much easier to accuse pornstars of racism back in the gonzo era, when arguably the male talent was collectively not as attractive as they are now. Back then, if a pornstar were to say "I'm just not attracted to black guys" it was easy to respond with a list of guys she worked with who was probably not attracted to but were white. Today, sexy men seem to dominate porn and I'd be comfortable guessing that the average pornstar in 2014 is attracted to more of her male costars than not. Viewers need to entertain the possibility that many performers who don't do IR are not necessarily racist, but rather are not attracted to black men.
@ Draxxx I got those numbers from Billy Watson. He's been working in porn since forever and he knows most content he shoots is interracial. Those are estimates when he is trying to book girls on a day to day basis. I mean if you look at sites like 101 modeling, LA direct Models, matrix models, motley models, hussie models ect.. the numbers are accurate. Jules Jordan even turned Orgy Masters into a mixed orgy movie because he didn't think enough stars did interracial. If you asked him or other directors that book for interracial I bet they would give you a similar estimate as Billy Watson did. Maybe the girls you like do interracial, but as a whole, the vast majority of girls in porn do not perform scenes with black men. Understand the stats include amateurs who haven't shot many scenes, but have a yes/no list. @LCF Billy watson was over in Europe booking girls and had the same trouble booking girls for interracial as he did in the states. You said it yourself, you don't know many of their policies, because not as much IR is shot there. Billy was over there, so he knows. Y'all can believe the stats or not. There are a ton of girls in porn, a bunch of girls you have never heard of, and there is no way anyone can keep up with all of them and what they do like producers/directors can. If it were possible to ask all girls in porn who are available for booking right now, I think you would see the numbers are true. Just ask the producers is all i'm saying. Edited by - ghost88 on 5/5/2014 7:55:03 PM
It could very well be true...but I still think it woud be interesting if someone took the list of the top 100 girls in porn and couldn't how many actually do or did IR. Does a current list like that exist on a site somewhere?
^How would you rank the girls? Number of bookings over a set period of time? Number of twitter followers? How many different companies she has worked for? Edited by - Mathle21 on 5/5/2014 10:06:20 PM
As far as I know all the major European stars do IR ,even some nazi stars and I stress the racist and nazist part of it did it. There are TONS of new stars in Europe , of course I don't know what each of them does , but for example if you try to book Anjelica/Abby for an IR scene she will turn you down, she only performs with the same guy, it would have nothing to do with races. Also you don't know their motives ,maybe they just fear the suppesd size , maybe they just don't trust the american producters or the American black stars , the syphilis outbreak hit badly over here and there was an American black star who faked his tests, the most inexperienced and possibly not English speakers may fear problems, I'm not saying they are right, just giving an explanation. Even Sandy the one who only performs with girl did a threesome with Mya Diamond and Kid Jamaica , for her site, it was maybe the closest scene to actual sex she ever made , she sucked him badly. She is an agent , she books the girls , anyway I don't believe 80% of refusal to be likely , surely not for the main agencies nor the main stars Also about Orgy masters it's hard to believe what you say VERY hard I can put a number of star who would have done that for sure (given their schedule of course) Jodi Taylor, Penny Pax, Vivie Delmonico,Jamie Jackson, Jessica Ryan , Alyssa Branch, Leya Falcon , Valentina Nappi, Jennifer White (just the first few names coming to mind) also most of the stars in the NON IR scene of Orgy Masters 5 actually do IR ,Cherie Deville and AJ Applegate surely do , Lola Foxx is even married to a black man so the true reason the second scene is not IR is because it wasn't meant as such Also your reasoning , I'm right because I know and you can't possibly know is very flawed to say the least.
Nothing special. Nothing scientific. Just any list from any site of their most searched/popular pornstars. Any "maistream" list of would do. I'm thinking most of the girls on any such list do IR.
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Posted - May 6 2014 : 9:52AM
performers refusing to do scenes with black guys is a turn off, but its not the end all for me. Alexis seems intent on not doing IR scenes with black guys for some reason. At the end of the day, I don't care, why? I don't think she's that great of a performer. Sorry, but a fat ass doesn't equal "super starlet" in my book. To my knowledge, Ashley Fires hasn't/doesn't do interracial either. I haven't been tempted to stop watching her scenes, why? Because she's got an extraordinary ass AND she's a great performer. Maybe she's racist, maybe she's not. I like watching her have sex. EDIT: Also, it seems like this "i don't do black guys" bullshit is only in american porn. When it comes to euros/russians, the girls seems perfectly fine doing interracial. Its like nobody has any time for the bullshit over there. Edited by - Jedi Master Bates on 5/6/2014 9:58:36 AM
^ Same with Japan as well. Even though there isn't that many black male talent in Japan compared to america they've made like tons of interracial japanese films, sadly they're censored :'(. Isn't there like an amateur teen interracial russian/european series? I don't think you'll get that kind of series in the US.
^ there was , but contained a porn very different than that in the USA it was focused on passion , you'd call that boring vanilla , no thugs , no blowbangs, no slapping, no chocking , no face fucking, lots of anal though
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Posted - May 6 2014 : 9:28PM
Try assteenmouth.com and especially LEGALPORNO.COM
^ Yeah like ddf porn. ^^ All the girls on that website look so young for some reason? And they are all doing anal lol wtf? Edited by - nas1960 on 5/7/2014 12:39:49 PM
@tobeyedison. A rational discussion could start with#1: Everyone agreeing that we need a Live and Let Live attitude towards women who don't do IR. It's not the end of the fucking world. If they don't want to, for whatever reason, that's on them. #2: Stop supposing that you know the reason why Jane Doe doesn't do IR. If she doesn't want to do it, she doesn't want to do it. Watch or don't watch.
who cares? if they dont wanna do ir, theres plenty of girls who will and honestly its only giving them satisfaction of knowing it gets to us when these topics keep coming up. instead, what about an ir appreciation thread? giving praise and props to the girls who do good ir porn.
Alright could u shoot a couple of actual active actresses that are IR queens? Even name some males who heavily have a thing for IR women? Its been awhile trying to get caught up on material as trying to put together an article for my online magazine website. Thank you for your time
Can't believe this is still a thing in 2021, you got quite a few pornstars who refuse to fuck a black dude on camera. If it's your job to fuck dudes, why would you be so specific to not fuck black dudes, just seems fishy to me. Black cocks matter :)
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Posted - Sep 6 2021 : 1:07AM
If you're black and you call somebody out for being racist. You're called a racist, I had this happen a couple of times. Maybe people just shouldn't say or do racist shit. It's really easy
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Posted - Sep 6 2021 : 9:10AM
Exactly, Just feel like you're missing out on money. This is a business, leave your hang-ups and bigotry at door. I guess some people don't like money. She's not that hot anyone. We have Angela White, I'll take her over Alexis Texas
^^^They can't afford to not do scenes with white men.
Anyways, the success of Blacked tells you a lot on 2 fronts; One, it's success is still based on the the taboo aspect of black men with white women. Second, it's done in a "Classy way" as opposed to other IR sites, which is probably so why many women don't mind working for them as opposed to IR other sites.
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Posted - Sep 6 2021 : 2:11PM
You don't have to work with other labels like Dogfart or the like. Women could always work with black stars on manyvids, onlyfans, etc, or that stars own personal website. Didn't Maitland Ward do scenes for IsiahMaxwell on his site? I think so. I'm sorry but just saying Blacked is the only label to work for in IR porn is a poor excuse.
WillCle216, you are coming across as trolling.You did though.Aya, as you can see from their quote you quoted in yours, never stated that Blacked is the only label to work for in IR porn.
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Posted - Sep 6 2021 : 5:17PM
Dude, whatever... I give you my opinion on it. If you don't like it then cool. Don't know why you call me a troll. Both of you are actually missing my point and being too literal with my words. Saying "it's done in a "Classy way" as opposed to other IR sites" is basically saying other labels aren't as classy or on par with Blacked. Making that statement just sounds like Blacked is the only label to "really" work for. That's why I said it was a poor excuse since there are tons of other ways to work with black male talent. But for some reason, you totally ignored everything else I said.
That whole image thing as a excuse never made sense to me. Jules has been shooting IR and helped make Lex and Mandingo. None of his scenes have that buffoonery or racial language.
The problem with these types of threads regarding racism is that two types of people flood these threads. The first is people that deflect from the topic and talk in absolutes. E.g She IS or IS NOT racist or it's HER choice(irrelevant to the topic). The people adamantly defending pornstars saying they're not racist is just as illogical as the people calling them racist. You don't know these people so why assume either. Discussing something that leads you to believe why a pornstar is or is not something is a different story. The second group is people who have already made up their minds or are arguing with their emotions which makes discussions pointless. Both sides are talking to a wall. These topics are good but I believe discussing them on this board to be pointless.
The Whole Alexis Texas TOPIC has been Dead for over 5 years. 2 of my Favorite performers Harmony Rose & Mya Luanna NEVER did Interracial scenes with Black Men that I know of, and that's Never been an Issue with me. Now Alexis Texas brought the DRAMA, Attention to herself by Publicly saying she didn't do it to Appease her Caucasian Fan Base Stuck her own foot in her Mouth. The TMZ cut where the Cast Clowned her is Platinum. Like said before that's her Choice just like it's my choice to NOT purchase DVDs or Scenes she's in. NO MORE ALEXIS TEXAS Talk PLEASE!!!✌
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Posted - Sep 23 2021 : 9:53PM
There are plenty of things I did not do publically out of respect for my high profile elderly Mexican political activist catholic church lady Mom...Why ruin my connection to her by pissing all over two or three of her outdated incorrect fearcentered views...IE being a card carrying Satanist drug enthusiast perve bachelor...
She knew damn well what I was and am about...This topic is often related to people we love and reveer and still agree to disgree strongly with...
I dont give a fuck about anyone's nolist nor the reasons...They are autonomous and the girl's got limits...we all do-
Oh and fuck trends that dictate what scenes one MUST perform in and for whom to be viable...
Nobody can dictate with whom you have sex, period.
If an adult actor doesnt want to work with anybody for preference or business reasons, that's their call.
Women, historically, have shorter careers in the adult industry and maybe, at the time, Alexis Texas was pacing herself. If there is a demand for her to do an IR scene, then there is still demand for her. The fine line is holding out long enough for a higher pay day for the scene and when the weirdos in the adult press and online make it too awkward.
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Posted - Nov 21 2021 : 2:30AM
So the title of this thread is Why is it racist if it's only Black Males? Well here is an argument regarding to that question.
How often do you see white male talent in similar poses for box covers?
Interracial porn involving black men is almost based on racial stereotypes no matter how "classy" or anti-racist companies try to make themselves out to be. In regarding to the first two images can someone explain why the Vixen Media Group's Tushy and Vixen box covers are not similar to the Blacked box covers?
While black male/white female porn is the most popular in the IR genre it is also the most polarizing in that genre as well.
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