It seems there is no way around it. Most of us prefer to see a hard cock in our porn. A stiff weiner sliding in and out of a hot chick's holes. I think we prefer it this way because it helps us visualize what it would be like if it was our cock in her. Watching porn is fantasy and almost living vicariously through the actions of the male model. When you were younger and started watching porn, did you ever time the pot shot so that you'd come exactly when the guy in the movie would cum? LOL, good times.
I used to watch lesbian porn movies for educational purposes. I thought I could learn how to please a woman well by watching how lesbians do it. But I didn't learn that much. Those lesbian movies were made mostly for entertainment and not for education. That which looks good on screen doesn't necessarily work well in real life. I got my education eventually from a real massage lady who was very experienced. She taught me well by showing me and letting me practice on her well-lubricated pussy and clitoris hand-massage. She really was an expert in this. Because the way she taught me has worked well with every lady I've been with since then.
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My guess would be that it's because most porn chicks aren't lesbians. Indeed, I doubt many of them are really bi. If you really watch, you can easily spot girls who just aren't into women. If she won't even touch the pussy with her mouth, that's a good indication. When you see a lot of toys in a scene, you're probably watching two straight chicks doing it for the hell of it or for the money. Oddly, straight chicks don't seem to mind kissing each other. I don't know why that would be but maybe they don't look at it the same way as munching on a pussy. There is usually no doubt about it when you land a scene with girls who are really into one another. I think if there were more of these, g/g porn might be more popular than it is. It probably still wouldn't be as popular, however. Most people like to see penetration but if they're anything like me, they hate most toys. Some are OK but most of them are hideous. We just like to see women getting fucked by men because that's what we want to do.
Yes, I paid for her lessons ahead of time. And her lessons included a lot more than just the massage. I took the full course from her, which included everything a man could ever need with a woman. There are many experienced massage ladies in the country of Thailand. And that's where I got the best sex-education a man can get.
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Posted - Jul 15 2008 : 3:31PM
Because 80% of porn buyers are male cum worshippers, and probably 95% of this board Just read any thread about "man batter", "nutty goodness" etc, The swooning is hilarious. Talk about being in denial!
Well, let's see. I'm watching porn. I'm sitting here with my dick in my hand. The object is to cum. And when I do, I kind of like the fantasy that the cum is going to land somewhere in the general vicinity of the chick I'm fantasizing about. Seeing the guy cum is about him substituting for me. In my mind, that is my cum shooting on the girl's face or wherever it goes. Because I'm not taking the thing literally as you apparently are. And FYI. I don't have a problem with gay people or gay sex. I've had sex with men and enjoyed it and would do it again. I'm not in denial about anything other than the fact that I would never be able to get a chick that hot to fuck me.
Sam46 There is something to what you say, but those percentages seem awfully high to me. Fantasy takes on a different meaning for each person. To generalize it as simply as you have does not seem to be very scientific. Wouldn't it be erotic to be able to slip into a person's thoughts and see what is getting them hot as they watch the wide variety of scenes available? What a thrill it would be to experience all the sensuality, the tenderness, the kinkiness, the nastiness and everything else through someone else's eyes. That would be quite a show! As to the subject of lesbian porn, my opinion is this... True lesbian porn can only be fully appreciated by a lesbian. The dynamics are such that a man or bi woman really has no basis for comparison. Bisexual women who are with one another, provides a different perspective. If the women are really into each other the results can be extremely arousing. As with all other types of scenes, if the participants are just acting or doing it for the money, then the scene has no appeal. For me, the best scenes are MFF threesomes. They seem to be the most realistic and offer the widest avenues for my fantasies to run wild. Remember the awesome words from Steppenwolf's Magic Carpet Ride - "Fantasy will set you free!"
I guess I'm in the minority. I appreciate the voyeuristic aspect of porn, seeing sexy naked woman in all their erotic glory. I have "appreciated" many solo-girl photos with nary a penis in sight. As far as g/g porn, I don't get uptight over toys or authentic lesbianism. I just like watching the girls play even if it's fake play. I've never seen real lesbians together so I guess it's a good thing I'm too ignorant to realize I'm being swindled. I have read that most fans like to pretend/imagine they're the owner of the cock being seen onscreen. This concept does not work for me because I cannot relate to the guy. He always has some combination of clueless/arrogant/asshole/brute/incompetent tendencies, and never does what I would do and frequently does what I would never do. It is impossible for me to pretend I am him if I despise him. So...I prefer solo and girl-girl and any other form of dick-free porn. Much easier for me to fantasize without the obstacle of tuning out the clueless asshole male character who is ruining the action and obstructing the view of the girl(s). Nothing personal against the male performers here.
I don't think that lesbian porn would be as popular as b/g porn even if the quality was excellent and the action was authentic looking. Most viewers ( male majority) prefer b/g porn because they identify with the male. As far as i am concerned, and as basic an explanation as that sounds, it is the major reason. I generally only watch lesbian porn in order to get off when I am not with a woman. I don't require identification with other males. When I like a certain female , I only need to fantasize about having sex with her and i can cum.
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Posted - Jul 15 2008 : 8:42PM
I remember at thread on rame.net some years ago where a poster made an argument that true g/g was really heterosexual (from the male pov) and that b/f was really gay. Especially when the focus is om the male's pop-shot or is oral is performed on the mail. My memory is dim, and I am no psychologist so please don't ask me more details of that long ago thread and I'm not real interested in defending the position. Let me say that I am in close agreement with ninja1's point I guess I'm in the minority. I appreciate the voyeuristic aspect of porn, seeing sexy naked woman in all their erotic glory.. I am not interested in the guy at all, other then his sexual impact on the female. I pick a lot of scenes with Manuel Ferrar, because he is a lover and seems to bring out the best of his partners sexuality. Other then that, I do not care about the guy at all. I FF through bj scenes and am disappointed if the guy fails stimulate the girl orally and/or digitally. I don't mind female submissiveness (as opposed to outright degradation), again as long as she looks like she is getting off.. I don't care about the guys pop shot. I care only if I am convinced that the girl is having the sex of her life (If she can convince that she really and an orgasm). I don't get off seeing a female with a face full of cum. So in regard to g/g stuff, if I can be convinced that either or both have had great sweaty sex with one or more climaxes then great. Otherwise it's boring.
Much of the G/g is so boring! I bet many of the participants are "gay for pay" and are just going through the motions. Furthermore, part of the fun of porn is imagining yourself doing those things, if you are a guy this is a little hard in these scenes. Also, since many women rarely orgasm and "squirting" aside, there is no crescendo...I find myself watching it (if I ever do watch these scenes) wondering when it will be over (I bet many of the actresses do too). Edited by - algaliarept on 7/17/2008 11:28:50 PM
I prefer to sex chicks over guys but find b/g porn so much hotter. DVDs just made of girl on girl porn are sooooooooooooo boring. Give me a variety any day. Belladonna's films really are the only exception.
when i first started watching porn, like 20 years ago, I found the g/g films far more appealing than b/g films, maybe it was the style back then. Back then, guys like Bruce7 were producing top notch g/g films, I still have to see something that has that kind of appeal in today's g/g flicks. I think that neither the directors nor the girls these days are into g/g films as much as back then. When Bruce 7 made a film it was like magic, girls were into it and Bruce knew what worked. I know that some people will probably argue that Belladonna is making good g/g films, I agree that her first 3 or 4 were good but then her style became more of freak show than erotic. Man, I miss those Buttslammer films.
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Posted - Jul 18 2008 : 12:29AM
The Abby Winters films are pretty good, Darkko's g/g series is strong and Jake Malone's g/g films take things even further than Belladonna. There are some scenes here and there where the women seem really into each other where it becomes a let down when the dude shows up.
Most g/g porn is lazy. By that I mean it revolves around dildos/strap-ons/etc. If girls are just going to mutually masturbate one another for 20 minutes I am thinking, "Why not just replace it with real dick and it would be vastly better." I CANNOT STAND dildos, etc in my sapphic porn. Good sappphic porn is hard to find and that is why the masters at it are such treasures. Viv Thomas and GirlfriendsFilms (old school SapphicErotica.com) produce the best lesbian porn. Honestly, if it were produced better it would hold a better market share.
I hate dildos too. And you're absolutely right. The Sapphic Erotica and Viv Thomas stuff I've seen with lots of heavy kissing and pussy eating (Real enthusiastic stuff) gave me the most intense boners and climaxes that I've probably ever had. Tongue wagging is so obviously fake it just makes me stop the whole thing right there.
Yes I totally agree, it's hard to find lesbian g/g porn that's are supposed to be for men. I think it's lazy becuse it's originally made for other 'real' lesbians, the pornstars are supposed to act emotionally and sensually like they've real feelings for each other and for most they're very good actors. But also that's the part where I find it a bit chewy.
Posted - Jul 14 2008 : 5:17PM
