Randy west knew how to film good lesbo stuff. "I love lesbians" he filmed in his living room. they sat on the couch, introduced themselves, then they started hacing sex. The two taylors, taylor moore and taylor st. claire was a great scene. The best randy west stuff is all the taylor moore stuff. Tayrlor moore did some great up and cummers stuff. And as she gets older, she gets sexier. I dont know why we dont see more of her.
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florida 218 Posts 2/07
Posted - Mar 21 2007 : 5:40PM
but the young, gorgeous, big-titted gianna michaels is in the new installment of the great lesbian series "four finger club"
I think you could ask, why is porn so boring these days at all ? It is, because customers buy this. The US porn market is totally overcrowded, most movies are too similiar.
MFX is hard stuff, and they had some fine movies when they started, but they produced too much and not all of the actresses seemed to be happy with the circumstances.
MFX also has legal troubles in the US, authorities have closed the homepage, because scat/vomit/golden shower is in contradiction to the obscenity laws.
US laws are very unclear, scat/golden shower is only legal, if not used in sex play, but these depends on the authority and can change.
So I am a little astonished, that so many talk about scat/golden shower movies, but are living in the US.
Dutch porn companys told me years ago, they dont ship movies with golden shower/rape/animal/16-17 girls, because its illegal in the US. ( And producing the last is now illegal in NL too )
The best lesbian porn movies have golden shower sex, like the old Schoolgirls Wet Specials, Teenage Climax, Videorama Golden Shower Special etc.
So if these arent legal in US shops, you cant blame the video stores, that they arent offering these titles.
I have never seen any lesbian titles of those companys with golden showers in them. Could you maybe point me to a site or a shop that has more information about them? Thanx!
Well, like I've said before, if the girls aren't really lesbians (or at least, truly bisexual), the easiest way in the world to fake your way through it is by fucking each other with toys. Maybe wag your tongue a couple of inches away from a pussy here and there...suck on a nipple...do a few closed-mouth kisses and you get a paycheck.
Real anything is hard to find in porn. Real lesbians are a whole hell of a lot rarer than straight girls who are willing to fuck for money. Most of the "lesbian" fare is fake. Compared with the few lesbian titles that at least incorporate real lesbians and real fire, it's like the difference between fast food and a gourmet meal prepared by a real chef who takes pride in his work. One is a poor substitute that can never really replace the real thing.
Hmmm...I think there's a pretty deep divide here because even though I can really get into the rough BG stuff, I don't care for rough lesbian stuff at all. I don't care how good the dom is. I like my lesbian porn nice and soft, sensual and erotic.
That said, if that's what you like, there's plenty of the rough GG stuff to be found. It's a lot harder to get your hands on quality sensual porn, lesbian or otherwise, if you ask me.
I have the scene I think you'd like it's an older scene but it's one of my most memorable ones I've ever done it was in a movie I did for Puritan called Bubble Butt Babes from the Babes in Pornland series. The scene I did with a Strap on with Bella Marie Wolf she was one crazy bitch didn't last long in porn but made a big impression on me. We fucked on the floor on a blanket as I knew she was going to shower me and she did this girl squirted so much all over me. I was soaked from head to toe my face, hair, body was covered in her juice and I must say I never did another scene like this again she was a rare treat and it's a scene that I'll never forget I think you'd enjoy it very much.
Hi there. I've heard someone mention highttide and glimpse as a good place to see hard lesbian films. Where are these films and where are these sights. Send info please under this message!
Well, that's exactly correct. That is one of the reasons I hate the dildos so very, very much. I get off on the naughty idea of girls having sex with each other. In order for this to work the girls have, oh, I don't know, ACTUALLY HAVE SEX WITH EACH OTHER.
Dildos are a way for them to avoid having to have sex with another woman. It's so convenient because they don't even have to touch the other girl. One hand on the dildo and the other safely away from anything that would be covered by a bikini.
On the other hand, I am aware that what I want to see is not precisely the same as what real lesbians would do. For example, I want to see a lot of tongue in the hole action, and while real lesbians actually do this, they don't do it as much as I would like. I want them to do it because to quote the cigarette, "that's where the flavor is." They don't do it as much because they quite naturally focus on the clit.
With all that said, I would watch the same lesbian clip a hundred times in a row if it featured real women who were into each other even if they did not cater to my particular interests without once wanting to switch things up by watching one of the dildo cramming, slapping and spitting travesties that currently claim to be lesbian films.
Well, I think there may be a lot of lack of empathy going on here as well. To a woman who isn't a lesbian, being expected to actually lick another woman's pussy or ass (or even to kiss another woman, for that matter) is equivelent to a man being expected to kiss or fuck or suck another man's dick. Most men simply wouldn't do it, even for a lot of money (probably even more than most of these girls get paid). So, really, it's not surprising at all that women who aren't actually bi or lesbian don't want to have sex with other women. What IS surprising is that they can get them to actually do as much as they do. Think about it. How much money would it take to get you to french another man (or even look at him or touch him in a sexual way) on camera for the world to see?True. The clit is where it's at, pleasure-wise. I still would think real lesbians would want to dig in and get their lips and nose in the slot, however. Who wouldn't? If you love pussy, you're gonna want to much away in there.Yeah...I don't care for the slapping and spitting as far as lesbian stuff goes. Oddly, I like it in straight movies (well, depending on how it's done). I think there is a market for the rough lesbian stuff or it obviously wouldn't sell. I think all porn could use more sensual passion to go along with the nasty. Otherwise, it's just a great big shock fest that gets more and more ridiculous. I don't have a problem with different niches being served but what's bugging me is that the plain old everyday guy who just wants to see two genuine lesbians eating pussy (with the exception of a few producers and directors) is often left out in the cold.
Edited by - randomprecision on 3/23/2007 8:47:15 AM
The fact remains that there still isn't enough GOOD black lesbian sex vids out there. Hint, HINT to all directors who actually shoot black g/g porn.
That's my biggest gripe.
Anyways, I do actually believe that more studios are starting to get the picture as far erotic lesbian films is concerned. The other day I seen the latest Jim Malibu's Pure Pussy series have a "No Toys" sign on the back of the cover.
At Hotmovies.com, 8 of their top ten Most Popular lesbian films are from GGF which should say something! Hell A LOT is already being said within this thread alone. The question is, when are the directors/production companies going to take notice and then take action?
It's so funny reading all these posts, as if you really want LESBIAN sex vids as opposed to some girl/girl simulated fantasy that's in your heads as to what gay females actually look like and do to each other.
First, if you want to see what kind of vids actual lesbians watch, you should visit a store like Babeland or Good Vibrations. Babeland is 100% lesbian owned and (though they're trying to shake the dyke label in favor of "women friendly" or "couples oriented") operated by real dykes, and has a collection of lesbian porn that actual lesbians BUY. Sorry to burst a few bubbles, but actual lesbians usually don't look like Charmane Star or Jenna Haze or Racine (or Jennifer Beals, for that matter). Just as average heterosexual girlfriens or wives don't look like Tera Patrick and typical husbands aren't hung like Evan Stone. In fact, if you picked a fight with the owner of Babeland (with whom we're friends), she'd probably kick the shit out of you and have fun pounding your teeth out. Ever go into a lesbian bar? We highly advise against it if you're not the real deal.
REAL lesbians are very much like most heterosexual women - not much into porn and looking for action that most closely mimics their reality. This may or may not include kissing, strapon sex, and/or toys, but it DOES usually mean women with real curves, butch chicks that look like dudes, and Betty Page types with lots of rear end and an exaggerated female exterior (they're typically the "bottoms"). And contrary to what we have in our heads, they don't piss all over each other, lather themselves up in hot oil, and call up all their friends each night for Playboy party-type orgies.
So what or original poster (who seems to be banned at the moment) wanted is something more akin to gorgeous-gals-doing-kinky-stuff-to-each-other fare rather than REAL "lesbian" action. And, unfortunately, there just aren't that many genuine lesbians most men want to see in their dvd players.
I want to see them parade around like good eye candy . I want to see them kiss like they are the only two in the world. I want to watch them touch for the longest time.
If I want to see hardcore usually straight b\g is my favorite.
I hope you find what you looking for.
An old classic h\c memory is one with Debbie Diamond , Bionca and I think Tammi Monroe it was a Zane movie I think called " Junkyard Dykes " but that was a dozen years back or more and I could be off a little.
Hopefully this becomes a trend! I hate it when the toys come out and usually ff through that scene.
I can understand that some women are not comfortable with actually having sex with other women and only do lesbian scenes for the money. But they could at least really fuck them with the toys then. Most of the time they don't even know how to use them right. Of course I don't expect real orgasms in mainstream lesbian porn but they could at least put a little more passion in it if they have to use those fucking toys.
Most lesbian movies are dull, because the women performing in it are neither lesbian nor bi-sexual. They are just performing a role, but really dont enjoy sex with a women. Some play very well, but I just dont get anything out of it. The real passion is missing.
I prefer our dutch and the danish lesbian/bi-sexual porn movies, where most of the girls are really enjoying it. I have seen so many real orgasm here, contrary to the manufactured yelling and crying in most US lesbian porn. I never had a women in bed, who cried out so loud ! ( And if I had..... my neighbours would have killed me :-)
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If The Good Times Did Not Last Then Believe Me Me The Bad Times Shall Also Passs 100 Posts 2/07
Posted - Mar 23 2007 : 8:26AM
i guess what is actually needed is to find real hardcore lesbians who simply cannot get enough of each other and then allow them to do their thing with gusto and honesty. Believe me the reality show wud be mind blowing coz the ladies wud know what to do and how to do it without having to fake it on camera.
I wudn't mind having sensor mikes to pick up the erotic chatter and extra camera to film from different angles and then hand over the shoot to the editor to bring it to commercial life. Lesbian or Gay sex seems so plastic coz the performers ain't enjoying it one bit and sadly it shows on camera. The dicks maybe pulsating in the pussies or the babes may have their tongues in the mouth but the bored expression says it all. If they enjoy doing what they're paid to do and the director knows what he wants the quality of lesbo films wud go up several notches.
Even though most of the actresses out there are straight , there are still quite a few who seem at ease with other women. I have seen Belladonna , Kimberly Kane , Isabel Ice , Julie Night , Melissa Lauren , Lauren Phoenix , Annette Schwarz , Katrina Craven , Kami , Jewel de Nyle , Poppy Morgan , and many others (past and present)engage in some pretty hot kissing and sex with other women. The problem , often , is that the camera operator doesn't stay on the kissing ...or the director makes them stop kissing so that they go for the ass and toys ...or they fade out or edit out the kissing ....or they just concentrate on dildo plunging even when the girls are probably willing to do more intimate acts.
Yes...it's true that most actresses are most likely not comfortable with g/g intimacy. I truly believe that...but there are many that are comfortable with it and I am sure that some of the producers and directors can do better.
Belladonna seems quite capable. Jewel de Nyle did a tremendous job with "lick between the lines" ( no toys by the way). The videos are much longer these days ...so there is more time for kissing and body contact. Leave out the dildos and get the girls to start using their tongues again.
There's the intimate word again. Once again...I think this is largely absent from most porn. I think a lot of porn viewers would much rather feel as though they are actual participants in the sex then "fly on the wall" voyeurs observing from 30 feet away.
Of course, if the scene is lesbian-themed and the viewer is male, he's probably not imagining himself as a female participant but he (no doubt) will respond quite readily to nice, quality close ups of kissing, pussy licking and so forth.
It seems to me that way too much porn is shot from a voyeuristic perspective and while I'm sure a lot of people like that, it's a whole lot more intoxicating to see a flick in which you feel a sense of intimacy with the performers.
I am completely comfortable with g/g intimacy... but there's nothing worse than getting cast with someone who isn't... now I do g/g if I know the girl personally, or by reputation as into girls, because I hate to feel any kind of unease!
Unfortunately, we want you to be MORE than "comfortable." Which do you prefer, cock or pussy? Our guess is the former. What the original poster is looking for, we think, is more than comfortable - he's wanting TRUE lesbian sex as TRUE lesbians would do it. Love, passion, and innate desire for female companionship and sex that is organically lesbian rather than faked. That's not to say bisexual females don't exist and that some sort of scenes can be put together featuring them (Charmane Star comes to mind).
I would even settle for "comfortable" !!! Sometimes , the girls do look like they are comfortable and into each other ...but it's the camera operator and director who ruin everything. Another problem is the "looking at the camera" thing. How could we get the impression that the girls are into each other if they continuously look at the camera during their sex ? This may be good for a "blow job POV" series , but I don't see how it works for a lesbian video.
I cant recommend these dutch/danish series, because almost all of the movies are illegal in the US/CAN, sorry. ( not in compliance with § 2257 )
( They are still legal in NL, DEN and even Germany, otherwise I hadnt posted this here. )
But I can recommend a very good US lesbian porn, its one of my favourite movies : "Curious Obsessions" by Seduction Cinema. I was very surprised, that there isnt even a review here ! It was a big hit in europe last year, a very intellectual and romantic lesbian porn. Its a very female movie, but I hope you enjoy it too !
That's no problem for me because I live in Germany not in the States. :-) I haven't seen any lesbian porn from Holland or Denmark yet so I'm curious if there is anything good out there.
I've never heard of "Curious Obsessions" but it doesn't seem to be x-rated, so maybe that's the reason. It could still be good though of course!
if you are living in Germany, get the old Seventeen VHS movies ( prior 1999 ! ), the old CCC ( Teenage Bestsellers, Teenage Lust, Teenage Climax etc.), -1986
Now Beate Uhse had bought the title rights ( not the movie rights ), and these movies are veeeeeeery bad ! Its an insult to the heritage of CCC.
"Schoolgirls like it wet" from Seventeen etc. ( many lesbian golden shower scenes ), but only 3 volumes were released, 3 is very rare. Or the "Schoolgirls Perversions" ( 5 released on VHS, with golden showers and even scat scenes, also rare ).
The chance to find the old VHS is nearly zero, if you look in normal video shops, but instead visit the old sex shops, they still have the videos, sometimes very cheap, because they want to move VHS out. I even found some old Video 2000 (VCC) and Betamax Videos in northern germany. Very rare movies, that would cost a fortune in VHS, for only 5 Euros per unit.
Or if the guys are clever, more expensive, because collectors are looking for these tapes. For legal reasons, these movies will NEVER be transferred to DVD.
If you still have problems to find them, you can send me a message.
Happy Hunting !
PS: The DVD I mentioned has an "adults only", but no rating. But its one of the best lesbian movies, I think you will not be disappointed.
Thats simple, I watch mostly old lesbian porn movies, because the series I like are no longer produced, or the new ones are VERY bad.
I think the magic word "NEW" is destroying the US porn market in the long run. Or better to say, it is cannibalizing itself. Too few shelveplace for too many movies. They have walls upon walls of new movies, but only very few classics. When I was in the USA, it was extremely difficult to find the US porn classics. Here in NL, most of the shops have classics like "green door" etc. I have never seen a genre, that is always demanding "NEW" movies. Have you seen one customer, who is asking for the "NEW" citizen kane ? Or a "new" Hitchcock ? No, but in porn customer demand this.
Well, yes, but you know, that is why I want them to do it and stuff.
I mean, I am fine with women not being willing to do it, and I sure understand where they are coming from if they don't. However, what I am paying for when I watch one of these movies is actual sex and if they are not willing to do it they should appear in different movies.
In truth a large part of what I am looking to see is a woman getting past the "I shouldn't do this" feeling and then doing it. If it turns out that against her expectations she really likes it, then I have found an instant classic.
What I don't want to see is a girl who has that "I shouldn't do this feeling" who then goes on to not do it. If she is not going to have sex with another girl, she should not be in a lesbian scene. I don't want to watch scenes where some girl gets to skate past any lesbian interaction by just playing around with some silly dildo and maybe spitting on some chick.
Yes, I agree with this. I am not particularly attracted to most black women, but scenes where black women actually eat pussy are soooo rare that I just love those scenes. I will watch a scene again and again with two black women that I would just fast forward past if they were in a straight scene just because it is so rare and exciting to see black women really getting down with another woman.That is excellent. I hope that catches on.
Yes, well, of course I don't want to see real lesbians. I alluded to that in an earlier post on this thread. I want to see hot straight or bi women having sex with each other in a somewhat stylized way where they actually eat pussy, kiss and don't use dildos. Whether this actually corresponds to real lesbians or not is not important to me. What is important is that they are really interacting with each other and not with some plastic.Yes, this is why I have no interest in seeing them on film.Yes, many times. I was in fact a semi-regular at a lesbian bar because they were also a live music venue. I have had many lesbian friends and I was a major fan of a local lesbian band. We had at least one lesbian couple at our wedding and my son has gone over to play with their (artificially concieved) daughter.
Of course, of all of those women, only two would I have wanted to sleep with, and they were both the girlfriends of the women I knew better. I suppose a third I would have wanted to sleep with as well but that was mostly because she was a major freak in bed and I think that could have been fun. She was certainly not one to turn my head otherwise though.
Yeah, I think most of us who want "real" lesbian action know that we want nothing of the sort. We don't want reality in the sense that these are women who might be looking for domestic partnership deals or who bring u-hauls to the second date. We want reality in the sense that they are "really" having sex with each other rather than participating in some sort of plasticized circus.
Man, you've got that right. I hate it when the girls are either in the middle of kissing or are about to start and then the director tells them to do something else. It makes me want to throw something at the screen. And then you have the idiot camera man go drifting off to do some sort of microscopic examination of some girl's asshole while missing the fact that they are making out.Preach it my brother!
Well, I was just trying to explain why I think good lesbian porn is so rare. Not really sticking up for them. It bothers me just as much as it bothers you. But I've taken my stab at filing a formal complaint (or ten) about it and it appears that you have also. Do you think we're the only ones who have? I can only express my opinion so emphatically until I have to assume that they either just don't care or that what I want to see is just not something that's feasible for them to do with any regularity.
I understand your frustration. Seriously. How many people do you think would like to have a whole collection full of porn that nails it exactly the way they want to see it? How many of those do you think actually have that? If it was easy, I'd have stopped looking for good stuff years ago because I'd have already bought enough good stuff to keep me for life. It's just rare. Like panning for gold. You find a nugget here and one there and you cherish them.
I don't think that is what he wanted at all. He wanted three things: 1) Strap-ons 2) Pissing and squirting (I personally don't see the difference between the two) 3) Oil on the girls
In his third post he tried to say that what he wanted: i.e. pissing, oil and strap-ons were what real lesbians wanted as well. It was pretty clear that he was uninterested in what real lesbians wanted to the extent that it might be something different than: pissing, oil and strap-ons.
All of his examples had to do with going back to his golden age of lesbian films as produced by Bruce Seven, who in my opinion ruined lesbian films in the US.
Now, as for what I, and I think many, in this thread want is what Isabel is willing to provide. Girl/Girl sex with someone who is not afraid of the pussy.
I don't need her to be primarily lesbian. I don't need her to wear combat boots and look like her hair is cut at the barber shop. I don't need to her subscribe to "On our backs." (which seeing as how the website with that name is now a Christian conversion site I suspect is out of business.) I don't need her to have an opinion about which Indigo Girl is more attractive. In fact, I would prefer that she not do those things.
I want to see a girl who looks like a hot straight girl passionately kiss another similar girl and then eat her pussy until she cums, lap up all that pussy juice, kiss the girl some more and then get eaten out in return. Is that so hard?
Again...that's pretty much Viv Thomas. Of course, you have to be patient because Viv Thomas films usually have a story line. It's not quite as hardcore as what some folks would like but it's very classy, doesn't seem forced at all and has almost all of the elements you're looking for. The only catch is that it can be hard to get your hands on Viv Thomas stuff in the US.
Yeah, from what I have seen, Viv is the way to go. I just don't like paying $50+ per film. I may break down and do it anyway though since what I have seen of his is very good, and like you said in an earlier post looking for this kind of stuff is a lot like panning for gold. It may be worth it to pay the price of two or three videos just to get a more guaranteed "Eureka!"
Here is something else thats missing when it comes to lesbian porn.FEATURES! movies that center around one porn actress, and all her fetish rough sex lesbian encounters.none of this Soft Stuff i can get on HBO.
I certainly don't like the soft stuff , either. I am looking for intensity , lust , and some nastiness. I wouldn't mind features so much but they often seem to focus on the artistic values , rather than the animalistic raw sex.
Speaking of Viv Thomas...I have seen a number of his g/g vids and some are quite good. At least he understands the value of kissing and body contact...and even eye contact between the girls. I am not too crazy about the "story stuff" but at least many of his scenes deliver. The problem with these movies is that they are not easily available here in North America. They take long to be released at LLV , in other words, and they are rather expensive. He frequently uses the same actresses in many of his movies , as well. There are many American porn actresses that can do amazing g/g scenes ... and I am sure that some of the current directors can do ALOT better in satisfying their customers... so I don't see why we should have to rely on Viv Thomas for quality g/g porn.
Posted - Mar 21 2007 : 5:38PM