"Lovely to look upon, heaven to touch, a real damn shame they got to cost so much." 60 Posts 6/07
Posted - Aug 16 2007 : 12:44PM
Mindee, I must voice my agreement with you, for the most part, about animals. If you make them bleed or cry out in pain, that is cruelty. Now, if you make them cum, well, what is cruel about that? As far as an animal not having a say in the matter, well. If you have ever been kicked in the head by a horse or bitten by a large dog, you will know that animals can say "no" without speaking. The fact that they don't kick or bite is consent on their part. Side note; I once had a female Collie that when ever she saw me naked would walk up and start licking my dick. First time it happened I was shocked. But it felt good and got hard, so I gave it a few minutes and I came. She lapped it all up and walked away. I did not teach her to do this, and I did not bait her into it. In this case I'm the one who "consented". "Don't piss down my neck an' then tell me it's rainin'."
If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06
Posted - Aug 17 2007 : 5:11PM
I have always found the "animal" thing to be tempting. I do some work with Chessie Moore, and she's done dog vids, and she's very cool with it. I don't know if I'm ready to do it on video, but I am very curious about it all. I'm not the least bit interested in stuffing eels into my puss, or seeing how much fun it would be to take on a plow-horse, but if I was offered the right opportunity to safely explore something with a friendly pooch, I'd probably consent.
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dvd4dvd Deactivated User
292 Posts 6/07
Posted - Aug 18 2007 : 2:56AM
you will not see the hottest of the hottest doing this shit _________________________________________________________ dvd4dvd, I just cant understand your intolerance. If you dont like this or that, thats ok. But you shouldnt insult other members, because they like golden showers. __________________________________________________________ first of all Mr ~or~Mrs NL..(btw? what does that stand for anyways?) don't be so quick to type without reading cause you might just miss it by a long shot. Im one hell of a performer when it comes to sex. Im up there with the best, and I can fuck like a god. and if there are people out there that are into golden showers. great! may they swallow pee till they their thrist is quenched! and if they love to pee on their ladies, cool! then drench her like she just got off from "BigFoot Rapids" in Knott's Berry Farm, Buena Park, Ca. stay focused btw, the orig question is..why is piss and scat forbidden in the usa. which I think it's not. I simply said that I think it's disgusting. but if your into that, cool. piss away MY DEAR PISSING FRIEND. Im not insulting anyone what-so-ever. if your offended, then eat spinach, grow some balls and shove it off like it aint no thing. I can care less if that's certain people fetish. GO FOR IT.
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Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03
Posted - Aug 18 2007 : 3:03AM
Umm. saying "I can care less" about something is the same as saying that you care. Just thought I should point that out, as your post contradicts itself.
I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06
Posted - Aug 18 2007 : 9:32AM
The answer to the original question is because there is already enough piss-poor and shitty porn being made without it today.
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X69Hardcore Deactivated User
7 Posts 8/07
Posted - Aug 19 2007 : 12:19AM
Thats bullshit :( piss is not allowed in american porn videos??? then explain why JM Productions is still allowed to make Liquid Gold?? that has nothing but women pissing and pissing , sometimes pissing on other women ...and besides most of the Lesbian Bukkake videos JM also makes is basically fake squirting which equals women pissing all over other women.... Dont believe the lies they tell you...Piss is something thats considered a taboo in western culture and in the world of adult pornography , piss is also a touchy subject:) however making lesbians drinking piss is something we should all have the right to see :) or download for free :)~ Fine outlaw all piss fetish videos and soon you will find more perverts downloading it for free :) freedom is not America's gift to the world..its gods gift to humanity
That just goes to show you what God's all about. Only God can give you freedom and only other people can take it away. Quite clearly, you're meant to worship other people. Just don't jack off while you're doing it because that's immoral.
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dvd4dvd Deactivated User
292 Posts 6/07
Posted - Aug 19 2007 : 2:15AM
conquistador Deactivated User
Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03
Posted - Aug 19 2007 : 2:37AM
The phrase you were looking for is probably "I couldn't care less". Which means simply that you don't care at all. "I can care less" implies some level of caring because you are saying you could tone it down and care less. You don't have to be an ass when your posts don't make sense. Just fix them. Writing brain damaged responses doesn't make your original post any more clear.
dvd4dvd, you are not only a troll, you also do not understand English. I recommend you go away, and come back another time after you have grown a brain.
First off, piss and scat make me want to hurl. Next, I believe that the banning of both genres have more to do with the morals and attitudes toward those subjects in the States, which are highly negative and I concur. It's challenging for me to see how someone would find scat and pissing sexual, but there obviously are people that do. Internal cumshots, cum-swallowing, and cumshots to the face are different matters to me because sperm alone is a natural element of sex (in most cases). Everyone can I dentify with it, but natual waste and piss are very taboo and don't have anything to do with sex, unless one adds it to the equation. I know for me, I would rather watch a huge facial than a shit or piss fest to the face. - Focused and Determined through The Secluded Paradyme
1. Thing is that it's not all about you. 2. I'm having a hard time understanding why you (and those who agree with you) care if people who like scat do it or watch it? How does it affect you? 3. OK. So you'd rather watch a huge facial. So what? If you don't buy piss and scat videos, you obviously aren't going to be watching them. Right now, you're more likely than not to run into pissing in regular porn because they have to pretend that pissing is female ejaculation in order to get by the censors. 4. Maybe some people think cum is disgusting to watch. Should you be prohibited from watching it because there are a bunch of people who say thinking about jizz makes them want to hurl? No. I'm pretty sure that you'd tell them that if they don't like it, they shouldn't watch it. 5. I don't happen to find the idea of scat appealing either. That's why I don't watch it. Piss is kind of different for me. I don't find it enormously arousing but I don't mind watching it. 6. Hang around here long enough and you'll see that everyone is put off or disgusted by something.
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ArinsystmaticX Deactivated User
1968 Posts 12/05
Posted - Aug 19 2007 : 6:07PM
I don't see what all the fuss is about. Porn in USA seems to be working around the censure problem anyway, in "squirting" videos by JM and such to solve the piss dilemma. Girls like Leah Stevenson, Hillary Scott, Sasha Grey, Taryn, S Knox (ret.), Tiffany Rayne (ret.) and afew other extreme girls, have been doing a lot dirty anal for people like Jake Malone, Eric Everhard, Jules etc. (Mild scat if there is such a thing?) So without being right in your face, and calling it what it really is, they seem to have come up with a solution to satisfy both set of people on either end of that argument. Let's be cool guys, live and let live. Edited by - ArinsystmaticX on 8/20/2007 9:26:14 AM
I understand what you've stated, and believe me, I've been around here long enough to realize your sixth statement in your post. What I stated in my last post is just my opinion about the matter. I wasn't attempting to dissect my opinion any further than you did with it. Yes, it's not all about me, and I wasn't attempting to make it all about me. It's just how I honestly feel about pissing and crapping in porn. If others find it sexual, then that's great for them and I respect that, even though I still find it challenging as to why they do like it. That's all. It doesn't affect me if they do or don't, but that doesn't suggest that I don't have to ask if they do. I wouldn't look down upon them either way. - Focused and Determined through The Secluded Paradyme
Without jumping in between different people's opinions, I think some of this friction goes back to the original question that the first poster asked on this subject. While I'm sure that the broad-minded adults who contribute to this space would never themselves CENSOR other people's idea of fun, the fact remains that given the intentionally chaotic state of censorship in the US, self-appointed Guardians of the Public Morality continue to exploit any and all possible "yuck factor" for all it's worth. If juries would just learn to say (like some of the posters here have written) "Hey, it's not for me, but as long as nobody's getting hurt..." these G of the PM would dry up and blow away once and for all. We should live so long. But it's always struck me as odd how some of the same people who can enjoy "Ripped Rectums: The Musical" can positively freak out about a little urine or a guy sucking cock: "Boy-Girl is fine, but They oughta clamp down on that weird stuff!" Be assured that Hugh Jambition, Crusading District Attorney, is counting on your support in this matter: All right-thinking people everywhere agree that (xxxwhateverxxx) is Totally Disgusting and must be driven from ourfaircountry forthwith.
Hmm, I can't believe this thread is still on the first two pages. I don't have much to add and will just post some random stuff about this. I guess I could understand why scat should not be produced in the USA. Pissing, although sickening hardly seems worth going to jail over. There's so much out there that's just as bad. Sames goes with fisting. Why the hell did they have a "self imposed" fisting ban exactly? For the person that said the hottest women do not do scat. That is not true in Japan at least. You'd be pretty amazed actually. Some of them will do anything for money. Does anyone know who Mayura Hoshitsuki is? Well she's pretty good looking and did a vomit movie!! Ugh. I've mentioned it before, but most scat is lesbian only. I don't know why this is, but probably because most porn viewers don't want to see men taking dumps on women. Weird huh? Is it more "tasteful" when women do it? Don't ask me. Like I said before, scat used to piss me off. I hate the idea that a director would do such things to women, but then again it was the woman's choice to do it so it doesn't seem so bad. But then again, some women will do anything for money even if it will cause them harm. Notice I said "some". No offense to any of you that like this, but I find the comments from all the people that think dog sex is ok to be sickening. That's just my belief and I don't think I can do anything to change that. Nothing wrong with that. That's the one thing I have a hard time understanding. I know some people online that love "simulated rape" but think scat is the sickest/worst thing in the world. Yet, it's the other way around to me. Rape is violence, not porn. Luckily I don't know this person well and I don't want to. Sorry, but it's true. Now, i'm sure he's not a rapist in real life, but it makes you want. Do you all know that's a whole genre in Japan? Yet rape crimes are extremely low. I've mentioned it before, but I can understand how some could can not understand how someone could ever like scat. I think the people who do like it originally found it sickening and disgusting but somehow got into it. Slowly. First they were a bit curious and then actually watched one, maybe while drunk! They start with regular porn, then gonzo, then fisting, pissing and then what else? probably scat for their next new "fix". What's next? I don't want to know. Then there are those that like to see shocking things in there porn. Maybe that's why they like it? Also, I'm going to guess that a large percentage of people who like scat don't get off on that stuff. They only watch it to see sick shit. Why? I don't know. I find it disgusting, but I can understand how someone would watch it. Don't tell me any of you who once viewed pissing movies didn't think it was disgusting at one time? I'd say you were lying! Anyway, i'm bored..
If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06
Posted - Aug 21 2007 : 5:33PM
If you talk to the lawyers they will tell you that nothing is really "forbidden". What they will tell you is what's likely to bring you up on charges. With the way the laws are written and you have to deal with the community standards yardstick, it's obvious that NYC and LA are far more tolerant than some city in Alabama, Mississippi or rural Pennsylvania. So in effect you can do anything you want, but if your product winds up in the hands of Dudley DooRight, the D.A. for the county of Plowhandle,Alabama where they think that kissing before marriage is obscene, you're going to jail. There was a case a number of years ago where some couple in West Virginia took pics of each other taking a dump in the woods. Not on each other, no sex was involved and they sold the videos to someone who was working undercover, and they went to jail for fertilizing the forest floor! Makes no sense. Shoot whatever you want, but be careful who winds up with it!
Well I'm not sure why you are asking the question if you intend to say I am lying, but my answer is that watching porn has not changed my sexual tastes at all. Everything I like, I already liked when I saw my first movie. Everything I didn't like back then, I still don't.
Well, I've been trying but I can't find anybody to argue with.Well, that's one thing I can see why it would be illegal. But that's because an animal can neither consent nor say no. It's another species. I couldn't help it though. The guy talking about the collie cracked me up. There's not much of a question of consent when it's two (or more) human adults. As long as everyone is of legal age and consenting, I don't know why anybody gives a flying fuck.Perhaps. Unless rape turns you on. And then it's porn, I guess.What if he was a she? How would you feel then? You do know rape is a major fantasy with a lot of women, right? Oh, they don't really want to be raped. The fantasy just turns them on.Well, if you've been reading my posts very long, you should know I don't see much value in lying to strangers on a porn board. I never found piss sickening because it was something that I had done in my own sex life way before I knew it had a whole genre dedicated to it. Again, It's not a big thing with me but I can get off to it and would do WS with a hot chick right now. I haven't and wouldn't do scat because I think it's gross but it doesn't bother me if people like it. I'm not bothered by the fact that scat porn exists.
Your quite wrong on this one. Yes Jenna Jameson has not done piss stuff in her time. But so many other girls have. Even I have been shocked at the caliber of women I have seen getting pissed on. It's a bonus for lovers of this watersportz stuff like I am because up until a few years ago the only women that did this stuff were not exactley the most gorgeous women. And also. Stop grouping scat and piss in the same category. they're 2 different things an you could never find one person that would eat shit over drinking piss. I like piss stuff but scat stuff is a big no no. Seriously what's the difference between cum and piss. they are both liquidy and come out of the dick. Here is a list of porn stars that have done piss work. Many of these women are much hotter then Jenna. Talyor Rain Roxy Jezel Chiquita Lopez Julie Knight Gen Padova Bianca Pureheart Sierra Sinn Courtney Simpson Deja Daire Harmony Rose Sativa Rose Crystal Ray Venus Sarah Twain Kayla Marie Sophia Daisy Dukes Tyla Winn Sharka Blue Arianna Jollee Angel Long Jayna Oso Kat Sasha Grey Brianna Banks Jade Hsu They have all done it. And there is nothing wrong with it.
forum etiquette i will remember to stay out of your porn poll hardware sorry i posted here mod: snipped the quote - see the Forum Etiquette Edited by - hardware on 9/24/2007 5:27:04 AM Edited by - bauer024 on 9/24/2007 7:40:16 AM
"...with the internet man porn will never go away completely..."
Buddy, if you only knew how thin THAT ice is! The mega-tele-coms in the USA have been drooling to carve themselves up a big honkin' slice of that rich internet pie for years now. (See: "Internet Neutrality.") Several waves of massive public indignation has staved this off -- so far -- in spite the best efforts of the Bush Family Evil Empire and their hand-picked corporate minions in the FCC, the Justice Dept. and the courts. Don't expect these greedy pirates in expensive suits to go away any time soon, though. Porn may yet be saved because it's now a BIG, lucrative BUSINESS. But if Verizon, et.al. get their greedy little hands on the Internet, you can expect they will immediately be cowering before the Right Reverend Billy Joe Biblebeater just like the TV people do now: "Good heavens! You can't show THAT on 'our' internet!!!" So sometime within the next year, expect the BFEE to give your internet to the telcoms and then let them sell it back to you a piece at a time. And expect an additional markup for the "euro" version.
Quote: There was a case a number of years ago where some couple in West Virginia took pics of each other taking a dump in the woods. Not on each other, no sex was involved and they sold the videos to someone who was working undercover, and they went to jail for fertilizing the forest floor! End Quote. This is funny and sad at the same time.... I wonder why people still call your country the "United" States of America
I wonder what happened to those british sisters Lucy and Ness. They had a scat-site years ago but had to close it because they were up on charges for it.
Isn't that like saying "if women didn't like sex there wouldn't be so many babies around, so they must all love it, so I guess it doesn't matter if you force yourself on a woman does it?" Now obviously animals CAN'T give consent, but we are talking a broad range of activities here - maybe if your talking about some girl sucking a horses dick then it could be argued there is little real 'abuse', but then if you move on to people forcing their cocks into chickens, or inserting mice into vaginas etc - well, I'm guessing those animals aren't having a fine and dandy time...
But you are saying 'all animals like sex - therefore it's OK to fuck them?' Or am I getting that bit of your argument wrong as well, cause from your statement that sure sounds like what you are saying... Edited by - loz on 12/14/2007 12:56:21 AM
Oh, please. Does it really even matter? Will you not be able to sleep tonight if somebody fucks a horse? Nobody ever asked them if people could ride on their backs either. Did they? Edited by - randomprecision on 12/14/2007 6:40:22 AM
loz. loz, loz, loz. Today I ate a dead pig and an unborn chicken. Yesterday I ate a dead cow with vindaloo sauce. I'm positive none of them consented to this. So yes, if you choose to fuck a dog or a horse tomorrow, I don't give a tinker's damn. If the horse does not consent, it will kick your head in. If the dog does not consent, it will bite off your genitals. Yea verily by these signs shall thee truly know if ye animals have consented. Though it seems that flogging dead horses is more in your line.
You could break new ground as the first squirting man Steve. Just remember to yell out 'Oh God - I'm going to squirt!' before you do it. Heck, maybe Elegant Angel will give you your own series: Steve Holmes IS Squirtman? ;) Edited by - loz on 12/14/2007 8:03:21 AM
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 14 2007 : 10:39PM
Please don't derail the thread with more bullshit about bestiality, I believe that particular topic has been beaten to death, just do a search on the forum and you will find one of the longest and most ridiculous/repetitive arguments on the forum.
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JET 7 Bye Again
3 Posts 12/07
Posted - Dec 27 2007 : 6:55PM
broken crazy record. broken crazy record. broken crazy record. Edited by - steph on 12/27/2007 8:45:13 PM
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