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Wolfe23
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54 Posts
7/09
Posted - Feb 14 2010 : 7:51PM
I love POV porn, it's basically the only type I watch. Why aren't there more POV releases? I watch a lot of Evil Angel and Jules Jordan movies, and they barely have any POV movies compared to all their other releases. Is POV porn not that popular? Do pornstars not like doing POV scenes? I like when pornstars look at the camera, especially during blowjobs. Does anyone else feel this way?
Edited by - Wolfe23 on Feb 14 2010
Edited by - Wolfe23 on Feb 14 2010
LubeNLuv
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1854 Posts
3/06
Posted - Feb 14 2010 : 8:44PM
I enjoy POV porn as well, but lets be honest....it does get a bit repetitive. Other than the use of setups and costumes/outfits and the female talent, the scenes all share the same basic set of positions.
JustAnotherDude
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55 Posts
1/01
Posted - Feb 14 2010 : 9:00PM
I think that can be said of every genre of porn.
But, I do agree there needs to be more POV. It is my favorite genre.
Gary Orona
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2/10
Posted - Feb 14 2010 : 11:33PM
I agree as well that's why we've actually started adding POV angles into scenes so it's a nice mix. We did it for Vampire Sex Diaries (just released) and in Talk Dirty To Me 2010 (due out March 5) and I have to say when we were editing these shows it became clear adding POV into the mix was very good, very stimulating and since it was Tabitha Stevens doing the blow job POVs, pretty amazing.
mapofhawaii
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1050 Posts
3/06
Posted - Feb 15 2010 : 12:37AM
It's good now and then, but the limited camera angles gets boring.
 
Wolfe23
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54 Posts
7/09
Posted - Feb 15 2010 : 12:45AM
I'm glad to hear that. In scenes that aren't purely POV, it's nice to at have the girl in the scene make eye contact with the camera sometimes, especially when she's giving a blowjob.
DRACO
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31 Posts
4/09
Posted - Feb 16 2010 : 2:36PM
Check out "Organic Melons Pov 1 and 2"
I don't understand what some of you guys saying about a limited number of positions? I am shooting every positions I can think of plus some you can only get in PoV? I even get the girl head to toe? Am I missing something?
Even have fetish's thrown in for more verity! There are nice build ups so your dick gets hard before you even have sex with her! I also throw in solo bonus so you can just enjoy the girl with no man parts! lol
Pick yours up today and have fun!
Draco
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Aplus
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1431 Posts
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Posted - Feb 16 2010 : 3:31PM
Well I'd simply say that some camerapeople are better than others at shooting POV. I've seen my share of it, and mostly rarely catch the girl from head-to-toe, except maybe in reverse cowgirl. I think Mike John does a good job with it, as well as Von Swine. Most of the other times I get frustrated because it seems the camera can never capture or simply misses what I want to see. That and there tends to be "way" too much camera movement to enjoy the scene like I would like to.
jbailes
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137 Posts
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Posted - Feb 16 2010 : 10:09PM
I think all the reasons stated above are valid reasons. Keeping a movie within budget is always a reason for nearly any decision in moviemaking. Most POV movies out there consist of the same cookie cutter formula. Some semi seductive intro with dirty talk, blowjob, 3 positions, cum on face. It would be nice to switch up scenarios from one scene to another. Starting out as a lap dance at a strip bar, getting a massage, waitress bringing you a cocktail, room service maid, whatever.
Another big reason why POV isn't bigger is this: Usually a POV movie consists of 4 or 5 scenes. You're lucky if you have one marquis performer in the entire movie. The others are B list performers (no disrespect meant), but chances are, you bought the movie to see that one performer in a POV setting. Many POV movies out there exclusivley feature complete unknowns.
Now if you were to get a POV movie together featuring, say for instance, Rachel Starr, Jayden Jaymes, Alektra Blue, Tanya James, and Kagney Linn Karter, I dare say that would be one of the biggest selling movies of the year. But something like that simply won't happen. Again because of keeping costs within budget and the fact that some girls are contracted, some are free agents, scheduling conflicts, etc.
I'm not scared of the 10,000 punches you throw one time, I'm scared of the one punch you throw 10,000 times
grover All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 16 2010 : 10:40PM
I would love to see a G/G POV scene, with a squirting finish!
Edited by - grover on 2/16/2010 10:41:39 PM
MrTibbs
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372 Posts
7/09
Posted - Feb 16 2010 : 10:59PM
I agree that it is repetitive, but when it's stuff I like to see, repetition is a good thing. Most of my favorite sex acts in porn -- reverse cowgirl, anal doggie, prone position (aka 'vag/anal on belly'), blow jobs and facials -- all look great shot in POV.
So yeah, more POV plz
Endless Loop
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Posted - Feb 16 2010 : 11:18PM
While I too enjoy POV based flicks, I think most who are puzzled by it's luke warm popularity, underestimate the percentage of fans motivated by voyeur based interests.
There's virtually no meaningful polls conducted –not that this industry generally
gives a shit about fan interests anyway– so its difficult to be certain, but I once initiated my own poll on the subject, and despite a limited response, became convinced, that most would be surprised how many average porn viewers, don't get off, prefer, or even percieve it, from the first person perspective.
bsavage
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112 Posts
1/10
Posted - Feb 17 2010 : 12:11AM
It eliminates the voyeur element. This is the reason most people enjoy watching porn. I understand the fetish, but POV porn is something we have all experienced in life at one point or another. The thrill of porn is watching people do things you may not necessarily 'see' at home. Furthermore, in the 'exotic' sex acts, the girl's face is freaquently obscured. 'Normal' scenes can show the girl's full figure (face included), which is difficult to achieve in POV porn -- though not impossible, I grant you.
The obvious argument to my theory is that POV porn is the 'ultimate voyeur' experience as you are in another person's shoes (or condom)... so to speak. However, to be a voyer, one must not be experiencing (partaking) rather simply observing (watching).
Additionally, there is an argument to be made that POV porn is misogynist. It is completely from a male perspective, therefore excluding any female viewership. Of course, most porn viewers are men, but you are certainly ostracizing any potential female or couple audience.
Edited by - bsavage on 2/17/2010 12:13:21 AM
Edited by - bsavage on 2/17/2010 12:18:55 AM
pusciferleg
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55 Posts
2/10
Posted - Feb 17 2010 : 12:24AM
I gotta say I'm not a huge fan. Everybody has their thing so I'm not judging your likes. It's just with POV it can be boring to me. I don't hate it at all, I have a few DVD's with it. I like the sense of imagining it's your dick. In general though, I want to see different angles. I'm not into watching in real world sex but in movies, I feel that's what it's about looking in as a spectator.
I guess I shouldn't say this because I don't shop for POV but it seems like there is a fair amount of it out there compared to other fetishes. That being said I look at a lot of Evil Angel and you already mentioned them, I think they do a fair amount of POV. Gotta love the suck it dry and sloppy head (which is mostly POV). Jake Malone also has a POV movie and Darkko has POV Jugg Fuckers, I haven't seen them though. Sorry if it's been mentioned but do you dig Blow me sandwich? Some very hot girls.
DarkPlaces
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477 Posts
3/07
Posted - Feb 17 2010 : 1:38AM
Because it's a deceptively difficult way to shoot. You'd think it would be easy: fuck the girl and hold the camera. But the fact that so much of it is bad, shows you how difficult it is. And because it's seriously one-on-one, usually with just two people in a room, chemistry becomes even more important and if it's not there, it's even worse than a regular no-chemistry scene. Also, I think sometimes there's also a touch of resentment from the girls at what is essentially an excuse for a non-performer to get laid. The disinterest borders on hostility.
 
Jonny Jay All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 17 2010 : 1:55AM
Just cannot get my head around this POV stuff I really hate it, limited camera angles and the action is too close up, maybe it may grow on me but I doubt it.
Draxxx
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3831 Posts
2/07
Posted - Feb 17 2010 : 6:38AM
I'm not much of a fan either for all the reasons mentioned here plus one more not mentioned yet. It's hard to pretend the guy in the movie is me when the guy is another race.
I think the POV movie I've found to be the best and most interesting to watch was some of the POV movies done by Mark Wood for his old company LeWood. In those movies Mark and Francesca and a 3rd girl would pass the camera around and take turns shooting their POVs. Doing it that way the veiwer wasn't limited to one POV and it make for more interesting shots and angles. Much less boring. Much less repetetive.
FasterBater
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Posted - Feb 17 2010 : 4:06PM
POV can be tricky, but when handled well, it's awesome. Check out POVThis.com for some great examples.
The Ghost of Cal Jammer
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Posted - Feb 17 2010 : 4:27PM
POV needs to be used sparingly within the scene. A whole scene made up of POV is tedious just like a whole scene of everything shot in medium close-up is tedious. It's a shame that more porn directors don't take their job more seriously. Use POV to punctuate certain moments. In other words: learn how to edit.
ricromo
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328 Posts
2/08
Posted - May 1 2010 : 1:07PM
Repetitive my ass!!!
I love POV, it's my favorite genre of porn. Please, more pure pov movies fellows.
Edited by - ricromo on 5/1/2010 1:08:06 PM
charn
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2880 Posts
12/09
Posted - May 1 2010 : 1:20PM
POV and missionary are my preferences for vaginal sex scenes. If it's not a POV scene then it will probably have reverse cowgirl, under-the-balls shots, and other boring shots that I pass by in my porn shopping.
Captain Tight Pants
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337 Posts
9/09
Posted - May 1 2010 : 1:52PM
I also like POV porn.
I also agree that there are limits to the positions and camera angles that make it somewhat repetitive.
I don't agree that there aren't a lot of titles. Seems like there are plenty to me. But I suppose there could be more.
There are movies that are POV but uses a cameraman to improve the quality of the camera work. I've see a few of these, most recently Pound the Round. I think "Jack" from "Jack's Playground" sometimes uses this technique. I call these fake POV but really it's not. The Point of View is the same. There just is cock person AND a camera person.
One thing I do like in POV porn that I don't see often enough is the use of a second camera. Where the second camera is on a tripod and its view can be edited in. In the first couple Private Sex Auditions, Toni Ribas uses two cameras, one that he holds and one that he just puts down on furniture. I really liked the effect he got with those. There was another series that used this technique with a tripod, but I can't remember it's name. The use of the second camera really cuts down on the repetitiveness of the positions and the angles.

AsianAnalPantyhoserGuy
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Posted - May 1 2010 : 3:11PM
I couldn't agree more
RandomPrecision
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Posted - May 1 2010 : 3:34PM
When they start using normal lenses and the porn girl's nose doesn't look 15 feet long, it can only be better.
MrTibbs
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372 Posts
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Posted - May 1 2010 : 5:27PM
When you're 3-4 feet away from what you're shooting, you ain't got much of a choice. You have to use a wide lens.



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