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snatchreamer
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21 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jan 6 2004 : 2:37AM
a little anal is cool and a little reeming is cool but why go so far and start stretching that out? most of the time the girl looks like she's getting tortured.

what ever happened to focusing on the vagina? When I say show some "pink" I mean stretch it out BUT NOT to the point where you can stick a fire hydrant in it.

I don't understand, most of my friends also agree that most of the "anal" stuff is just disgusting and un-arrousing.

am I and my friends the only one who feels this way?

Sir Noel Plum
Senior Studmuffin

1001 Posts
2/03
Posted - Jan 6 2004 : 6:15AM
Vaginal sex is perverted, unnatural and just plain wrong. If God hadn't wanted us to fuck our girlies in the ass he would have placed a big iron spike up there and row upon row of barbed teeth!!

SNP.

DenverDon
Benevolent

Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Jan 6 2004 : 7:21AM
snatchreamer,

Welcome to the forum.

It's basically just a genre that has become popular. However as with all genres in porn, there it quite a bit out there for everyone. You just need to shop, read reviews, and then choose what you want. It's there.

DenverDon

Baby Grandpa
Deactivated User

51 Posts
11/03
Posted - Jan 6 2004 : 8:51AM
Look. It's all a matter of making sure that you're informed properly before you buy or rent. If you're more of a pussyman when it comes to adult movies, then just make sure that you read enough reviews or comments or whatever. Because that's the only way of watching what you like.

I happen to like all the anal stuff that's currently available. Gapes, ATMs, DAPs, you name it, i want to see it. So to make sure that i won't rent a lame non-anal video, i make sure i know what i want to see by getting the right information.

And you should do to. If you put your ass into it, you'll find an abundance of movies that have no anal in it whatsoever! Good luck.

timotei
Member

UK
271 Posts
4/02
Posted - Jan 6 2004 : 11:51AM
Baby Grandpa - who's that on your avatar? A fine ass! Can you point me to a larger copy? Cheers...
 
Pocketcomb_Pimp
Deactivated User

1921 Posts
7/03
Posted - Jan 6 2004 : 12:41PM
Anal can be very erotic, but for some reason people are stretching this to the limit! I don't need to see someone stretching anothers ass open. Gapes are good, but that is natural. Kinda like the films with pulling the girls mouth open wider.

Double anal is also getting out of hand. I'm glad that anl is becoming more mainstream, but pace yourself. I don't need to see it all in 2004!

stefank60
Member

Gold Trader on ADT
383 Posts
9/02
Posted - Jan 6 2004 : 1:21PM
Coz it's nice


Can't get enough of it. gapes, gapes and more gapes. Oh and double anal, oh and anal fisting..

Simple really : Thankfully we all have different tastes some will love it some will hate it.

Imagine a world where we don't all have different tastes !!


stef

ze_dude33
Member

I love gapes and myself very much !
861 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 6 2004 : 1:29PM
Gapes are so goooooood !
Gapelover
Senior Member

Master of Gapes
1933 Posts
10/03
Posted - Jan 6 2004 : 3:53PM
No limit to the ass stretching .The bigger the gapes the better !
Renee
Member

765 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 6 2004 : 4:57PM
He'll need a lot of luck, if it's gonzo films that he wants to watch. There is not an abundance of movies without anal. Even the New Talent/Initiations/Barely legal-type films, that are supposed to be about women new to the porn industry, can have half or more of the scenes containing anal sex.

The only gonzo film that I've come across over the past 6 months, that contained no anal sex, was Zero Tolerance's Virgin Surgeon. Even in this one, 3 out of the 6 women were asked if they would try anal (they declined).

I've even come across a movie (though a decent one) where two women had only agreed to do conventional vaginal sex, and then half way through their scenes, the male actor asks them to try anal, and they do try, though at first with some reluctance, and visible discomfort. The actresses were definitely caught by surprise, and I was, too.

So, Gramps, you should first do some research, before making grand statements about any so-called abundance.

DP Jones
Member

511 Posts
10/03
Posted - Jan 6 2004 : 5:10PM
Ahem,Dave Pounder and his 0%anal videos!
T.L.Tycoon
Member

416 Posts
12/03
Posted - Jan 7 2004 : 12:06AM
It's all about Marketing. This is a great time for Butt Lovers such as self. The more Gapes;the better in my book.
I want a girl to think Ass Fu$#%** is normal as possible;to insure her willingness to go there. However,A little more variety is needed now;because not everyone is as infactuated with a girls butt as I and a whole lot other Rump Lovers.There are men that like Breast just as much. Marketing baby! Marketing!
1on1Fan
Member

273 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 7 2004 : 6:21AM
i have seen 3 Kick Ass -movies: Ann Marie, Jenna Haze and Violet Blue -complations. and there was much more pussy fucking than anal.
and according to reviews, it seems that Kick Ass Pictures makes many movies where is little anal-sex or no anal.

Not Just Another 8Teen Movie from Zero Tolerance, 1 anal-only, 6 pussy-only scenes.
and according to reviews, ...8Teen Movie2 is pussy-only.

Wet Teens1, Young Natural Breasts1,2 and "For Women Only" from Simon Wolf are pussy-only movies. maybe there is more.

Operation Just Cooze1 and 2 are pussy-only, wait digitally remastered release from Evolution Erotica.


i like pussy-only scenes, sometimes anal is fine.
i hate anal-only scenes, and scenes where's DP:s and tons of gapes.

Edited by - 1on1Fan on 1/7/2004 6:23:21 AM

karlwikman
Member

32 Posts
7/03
Posted - Jan 7 2004 : 12:21PM
No, probably you aren't the only ones to think so. But you ARE in a definite minority among those who rent/buy porn. In the adult video store where I work, we sometimes get a customer who specifically asks for non-anal movies - one in a few hundred customers or so... Perhaps there are people out there who prefer movies without anal, and perhaps they are even in majority, but they are not the ones who are inclined to rent/buy movies... So it is a commersial consideration - you know, supply and demand... The minute fifty customers a day come in and ask for non-anal flicks, we will try and find a distributor who carries them! That's a promise. Until then, keep asking!


Now to the first part of your question: WHAT exactly is the appeal of anal sex?
For me, it is both a fetish and a question of realism... Perhaps the latter calls for an explanation: I saw one of the more recent Voyeur titles from Evil Empire recently - number 25 or 26, I think. There was a scene with two blondes and one guy, and it didn't appeal to me at all. The two blondes were fake-moaning, carressing themselves as if all-too-aware of the camera and that they were in it for the money - which of course they were. Nothink kills a scene more for me than exaggerated fake moaning.

Then the scene moves to anal... It certainly didn't look much different - especially since there were few closeups - but suddenly, the scene SOUNDED different. There was no fake moaning anymore! The blonde who got it up the rear end was almost silent, and the moans that escaped her were clearly not fake, but real.

Any honest woman will tell you that she can easily "put up" with some vaginal penetration even when she is not at all in the mood for sex, and probably even act like she enjoys it - like prostitutes and female performers do. But could she do that being anally penetrated? Certainly not! Anal sex feels different. The sensation of being anally penetrated is much more intensive, and cannot be shut out. THAT is why i demand anal sex from a scene - or deepthroat oral with gagging - because it gives you a sense that most of the reactions that you see are genuine in a way.

And I'm a perv, of course - I forgot to add that ;)

//Karl

Porn Scout
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3735 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jan 7 2004 : 11:04PM
I just feel like a scene is incomplete without rectal penetration. Now, to be perfectly clear, I don't like double anal at all, not one bit. I think it's weird that guys want to rub dicks together and I don't think it works well visually.

Incidentally, Jules Jordan's latest, Perfect Specimens, has only one b/g anal scene, with Briana Blaze. It also has a g/g scene with Kylie Wylde and Judy Star that has some anal play in it. But the other three scenes - Brooke Milano, Jade Hsu, and Lucy Thai - are all vag only.

 
Ultrasiet
Member

Maya Gold, will you marry me?
220 Posts
11/03
Posted - Jan 8 2004 : 2:33AM
I know many people who are still horrified by anal sex on film, and a series like ASSMAN is anathema to them.

Nacho Vidal proved in his Killer Pussy series that vaginal sex can be made intensely and in a very hot way. I suggest you check the series out and read Speelie's excellent reviews of most of that series here on the forums. You could very well enjoy it, as anal has minimal emphasis in that film.

I swing the other way. If you've ever had anal sex you'll know it takes some effort and mental preparation, even if you've been doing it over and over again. It's a majorly acquired taste to enjoy, and so when I see girls on film performing it with alacrity, it not only arouses, but draws admiration.

conquistador
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Hellhamster.
2947 Posts
10/03
Posted - Jan 8 2004 : 5:23AM
This idea has been addressed here before. The best and most accurate response was what I heard from Shameless.

I can't remember it exactly but basically he said we are all into porn for the pussy, and what better way to display pussy than to have a dick up the ass?

and I agree with him.


ned

Renee
Member

765 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 8 2004 : 12:03PM
Just for fun, I tried to find non-anal gonzo films by using the search functions on XrentDVD, Action DVD, Adult DVD Empire, 5 star DVD, and Bush DVD. The big problem is that even though there are about 20 different genres listed on nearly every site - for instance, anal, squirting, girl/girl, rough sex, interracial and so on - there is no category for non-anal, so it's pretty damn hard to locate these films, even if they do exist. It's fine for a person who reads this message board, and happens upon a thread like this one, and finds out about a couple of titles, but other than that, I don't know how a person would find these readily. Maybe the online retailers don't include a separate category like this, because there aren't enough titles to justify it.

Karl Wikman, in the store where you work, is there a separate section for non-anal gonzo films, or are the few that you might have scattered all over the store? Maybe people don't ask for them, because they figure you don't even carry them.

I know in the XXX backroom of my local video store, nearly 1/2 of the shelf space is taken up with titles that begin with "ASS" or "Anal" or "Butt" or variations on these three. Then, of course, there is all the "sodomy" type titles, which is good for another 10% of the space, and so on. Trying to find a title that doesn't include anal sex, is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

I myself have nothing against anal films, it's just the lack of variety that bothers me.

clarence j. dammit
Member

Upstate NY
59 Posts
12/02
Posted - Jan 8 2004 : 11:52PM
No - when I first started purchasing porn, I actively tried to avoid titles with anal sex. However, as others pointed out already, this severely limits your selection (especially if you like gonzo style. Now, I purchase titles primarily based on my favorite directors and female talent, even if it does include anal at some degree. Though I can tolerate anal sex, if it dominates a scene I just use the fast foward button. Others have already mentioned "Virgin Surgeon," a non-anal sex, one-on-one only gonzo video that still has hot sex. Shocking! It's unfortunate that porn producers have become so festishized that they rarely make stuff like that.

Personally, I think the reason that anal emphasized porn has come to such prominence is that the anal fetishists make up the loudest, most obnoxious viewing demographic (though they risk being eclipsed by the rising star of the interracial crowd). That, and they spend the most money on porn.

Wally
Senior Member

1821 Posts
8/01
Posted - Jan 9 2004 : 12:31AM
Here we go again, with the non-anal crowd believing that they are more "respectable" 'cos they don't care much about anal, dp or any circus act. .....and before you guys use the damn word "raincoaters" to describe people that like anal/circus acts. The word raincoater used to be used on those people that went to porn theaters wearing a raincoat back in the 70/80s. The mayority of those porn movies that those "raincoaters" watched, didn't have any anal or "circus acts" in it, 90% of those porn movies had pussy only sex. Exactly the stuff you guys like. So YOU ARE as raincoaters as anybody else that watch porn and certainly Are not more respectable that anybody else neither. You want pussy only videos? ..Well, do your homework like everybody else, read reviews, be willing to risk your money (God knows how many times I bought a video that promised all anal and my favorite girl in it didn't take it up the ass) ..and if you don't find exactly what you want. Well, ASK, for it, be Vocal about it (Nobody is gonna make what you want if nobody knows what you want). But for God's sake stop it with the "I'm better than you, becouse I don't like anal" aptitude...Believe me, that nonsense is more annoying than a guy asking for gapes all the time.

Edited by - wally on 1/9/2004 1:09:43 AM

Kimi Lixx
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2012 Posts
6/01
Posted - Jan 9 2004 : 12:14PM
Yeah, right..
Zander69
Member

Europe
124 Posts
12/03
Posted - Jan 9 2004 : 2:43PM
Maybe this statement is unfair, because I am an older porn viewer. But at the time I turned into an anal-maniac around the mid 90ties (with Anabel Chong for instance), I had to search my local rental shops hard for adecent anal diet. At that time I wished so much that once it will be upside down: not 90% non-anal, but 90% anal. As a kind of revenge. Now my time has finally come! 2002/3 wre good anal years, indeed. 2004 started good as well. I spend a lot more on porn than a few years back. I spend it because producers produce what I want to see.

For me it feels like late justice done, but basically its simple market rules: What sells gets produced.

Thus: All non-anal lovers have just to call louder. And especially buy more pussy-only porn.

Renee
Member

765 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 9 2004 : 5:20PM
Kimi,

Thanks for being "an honest woman" and responding to KarlWikman's sage statement. It gave me a good laugh, and frankly I value your opinion over his when it comes to these matters.

Why do men (and not just men who watch porn a lot) assume they know exactly what women physically feel or experience during sex? It doesn't make any sense to me.

The most hilarious example of this I've ever seen is in "Rocco Invades Poland", when Rocco is showing a vibrator to a bunch of naive young girls at a casting call. He tells them, "You put this on the pussy. It relaxes you the best. Believe me." Well, how exactly would he know this for certain? I'm confused!

Joey Starr
Senior Member

Still wanking after all these years.
8082 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jan 9 2004 : 5:36PM
It's the "taboo" aspect of the act I guess... Plus most people aren't likely to do anal in their own sex lives, so anal porn enables them at least to fantasize about it?

I don't mind movies without anal sex but sometimes I see a girl's beautiful asshole in a scene and wish she'd get it, and I'm disapointed if she doesn't...

That said I've seen many boring anal scenes which I'd happily trade for intense vaginal scenes!

Edited by - Joey Starr on 1/9/2004 5:37:49 PM

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 9 2004 : 5:38PM
I think what Mr. Wikman is getting at is that he'd rather see a scene that leaves him convinced that the woman was not enjoying herself, rather than a scene that leaves him convinced that she was pretending to enjoy herself.

In the gonzo that I've recently inflicted on myself there's been no shortage of women who were quite clearly in pain as a result of overly theatrical buttfucking.

I won't speculate on why someone would prefer genuine discomfort over feigned enjoyment.

-T.C.

 
*Mutt*
Deactivated User

752 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 9 2004 : 5:55PM

Way too much anal in gonzo, way too many MMF scenes. Gonzo is all geared to the raincoaters for whom vaginal sex is not enough any more to stimulate them. Porn is an addiction just like any other addiction. Whether it's an addiction that has negative affects on one's life is up to you to decide for yourselves. But like any addiction a tolerance is built up to whatever the stimulant is.

Know this though - 99% of women enjoy vaginal sex - the same cannot be said for anal sex. All the women you see in these thousands of DVD movies having their asses pounded are not enjoying it. Unless a girl is some superstar contract girl or brand new fresh meat she has to do anal if she wants to work alot.

Just go back and watch how hardcore has developed - a continous path towards pushing the extreme - only the fear of prosecution is holding people back from going to the darkest of places.

2 years ago I was pretty shocked by the Gag Factor style brutal blowjob throat fucking genre - now i've seen so much of it around the Web it doesn't trouble me much. That is how we become more and more tolerant to stimuli - by repeated exposure to it. People who watch alot of porn and people who work in it everyday lose perspective.

Raincoaters live in a dream world.

Joey Starr
Senior Member

Still wanking after all these years.
8082 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jan 9 2004 : 6:19PM
I thought many more than 1% didn't enjoy sex at all...
Joey Starr
Senior Member

Still wanking after all these years.
8082 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jan 9 2004 : 6:34PM
I haven't seen it but judging from the reviews here on ADT "Virgin Surgeon" from Zero Tolerance appears to meet your exacting criterias and has pretty good ratings too...

Renee
Member

765 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 9 2004 : 8:39PM
Joey Starr,

You must have missed looking in the reviews section, I am one of the people who has written a review of Virgin Surgeon . I got a nice reply from Mike Quasar himself on it. Perhaps, if you will all allow me a bit of self-indulgence, I will quote from the opening paragraphs:

"This video is dedicated to the latest fetish in the porn world, vaginal sex. Remember this archaic ritual? For millennia, it was practiced by us humans, and our humanoid ancestors. But thanks to the help, the loving guidance from the porn industry, we have all been tutored in that higher form of sexual expression, ANAL SEX. Today, everyone knows that old-fashioned vaginal sex is for reproductive purposes only.

Nevertheless, there are still individuals, mainly virgins and near-virgins, who are interested in this antiquated sexual custom. Hence, the need for a film like Virgin Surgeon, in which Mark Davis focuses on young women who are new to the porn industry, and who are making their first boy/girl movies...."

And from my concluding remarks:
"For a film that is about conventional vaginal sex, with inexperienced performers save the director Mark Davis, this was a real treat to watch. Everyone did a fine job and came across as enjoying what they were doing. It goes to show what the right casting and a good working atmosphere can accomplish. Other things I liked were the variety of positions shown (some I’d never seen before), and that they took their time with the actual sex footage, since there wasn’t the mad rush to get to the ANAL SEX that you see in a lot of porno films nowadays."

I wonder what Mr. Wikman would think of this title? He might be disappointed, since no one was in obvious pain or discomfort in any scene. If that's what it takes for him to enjoy a film, well, I wish him luck.

Jules_Jordan_Saviour
Member

Adelaide,Australia
81 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 9 2004 : 10:29PM
anal sex was something that not many girls did in the early days of porn, and it was only unattractive girls that did it. But now in the 90's anal has taken off and i think its alot more accepted, hell there are some hot girls doing it in the industry today. in terms of the whole freak show thing of stretching out assholes and pussies is just directors pushing the envelope and making things more hardcore without being illegal (borderline). its what some people such as myself like to see, and for those who dont well dont watch it.
cochise
Member

You gonna pull them pistols or whistle dixie?
238 Posts
12/03
Posted - Jan 10 2004 : 3:47AM
It's really quite simple. There's enough demand for it to make it a profitable business venture. I'm not surprised that most of your friends don't care for it; birds of a feather flock together. But there's a significant number of people who like it.

Perhaps one day you'll too become jaded by your current porn preferences. You may or may not evolve to the point where you'll change your mind. If not, no big deal.

Everyone is wired differently. Preferences and opinions are normally respected around here (not suggesting you've shown any disrespect). One man's trash is another man's treasure. You can usually obtain the genre of porn you prefer to watch so if you don't care for gaping anal, don't get a flick where that's the theme. Get one's you're curious about and most of all, enjoy.

I, among many others here, love a female's gaping anus; it's like the ultimate secret place unabashedly exposed.

DTfan
Member

utah
102 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jan 17 2004 : 12:40AM
Sorry, I just joined the forum and started a new thread about this very subject. Thanks for the tip on "Virgin Surgeon" - I'll have to check that out. I'm also happy to hear that "Perfect Specimens" has only 1 anal. I like the way Jules shoots his scenes. I've watched the first "Flesh Hunter" and liked it very much. Tell me something - how quick does he get to the anal SEX in his Ass Worship series? I really enjoy looking at butts, teasing, etc. I like the way Jules films girls walking away from the camera - very well done. I could always fast forward through the anal if these other facets were long enough.
Myload
Senior Member

A rose is what you are to me
2069 Posts
6/03
Posted - Jan 17 2004 : 2:46AM
I don't mind anal in porn, but things like gaping assholes and double anal aren't really my thing. Stretched-out assholes aren't a turn-on for me. But it's just a matter of taste. While anal may be the current trend in porn, not every porn fan will be into it.

I saw a trailer for "Full Anal Access 2", and one scene showed was indeed a woman doing double anal, and I watched in disbelief (so did my fiancee). I read about that particular sex act a lot here, but actually seeing it is another matter. All I could think of is how much pain that woman must have been in. That's not to say that I wouldn't watch an anal-themed movie (which I know would have a double anal scene and girls with gaping assholes). But I doubt that I would watch them on a regular basis.

But to each their own.

Edited by - Myload on 1/17/2004 2:47:14 AM

Baby Grandpa
Deactivated User

51 Posts
11/03
Posted - Jan 17 2004 : 9:34PM
You should read what i'm writing! The internet offers all the opportunities to find what you're looking for. Forums, for instance. You're right on everything you say. The labels and series you name, yes, do contain anal. But still there's more. Try private's stuff for a change. They deliver plenty of movies that hardly contain any anal. And if they do, it's so poorly shot that you can't even tell it's in the ass. Besides all that, i do not agree with the topic about the 'anal themed-ness' of current adult movies. It's the old definition of question and demand. There's still a market for non anal themed movies. Therefore, there's a supplier for it. I can't give no advice in this case, since i'm a customer for anal themed material. Nuff said.
TrinityJames
Member

32 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jan 24 2004 : 4:18AM
I completely understand you but I know from personal experience(if ya kow what I mean) I love anal sex not all the time but sometimes I just need a good fucking in the ass ..I know a few girls that are just loike me that would prefer anal over vag anyday..but I do understand when you say some girls look like they are being tortured and thats prolly either because that dick has fucked them well or they are not one to actually like anal and doing it for the money
hehe we all get sore from time to time
XoXo
Trinity James

and I thought that u guys wanted to see us whores get degraded in that way

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