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JadaBlaze01
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Posted - May 14 2012 : 8:30AM
Hey everyone I support IR Porn I just want to point out one thing I noticed about West Coast Productions Studio they are very bias and one sided when it comes to thier Interracial Porn films, all of thier IR Porn consist of Black Men bangin White chicks and they have no Porn for fans of White Males banging Black Women,even when Michael Stefano worked as a director over at West Coast Productions most of the films he directed like " Sex Toys and "Teen Perversions" didnt have any Black Women/ White Male Scenes, but IR Films, Michael Stefano loves to shoot White Male/Black Female Porn and has shot a lot of IR films over at Red Light District like the " Feeling Black" Series "Cream Filled Chocolate Holes", and "Black Girl Addiction" Series they all were shot for Red Light District studio and not West Coast Productions,was Michael Stefano told not to shoot BF/WM IR porn over at West Coast productions when he worked as a director over at that studio? cause West coast Productions seems to have no problems shooting Black Male/White female Porn flicks like " White Mama Got Azz"," Black Cum in white girlz" or Bomb Ass White Booty" , why does it have to be one sided over at West Coast Productions when it comes to thier IR collection, but other major studios like Red Light District shoot both types of IR, Black Men banging White chicks and White Men Banging Black Chicks.
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Posted - May 14 2012 : 9:45AM
^I can't confirm if what you said about West Coast is true but for argument sake I'll assume that it is. It's quite possible that West Coast found a market that was very lucrative and because it has always been so then they haven't found any reason to change it. I'd like to add that that there aren't that many black female performers vs white ones so it's a lot easier to hire white performers. Of course if more companies hired black female performers then maybe we would have more of them working in the industry but that's just a theory. I like the stuff West Coast puts out so I'm quite happy with their current business plan. I would be very happy if they did a series of all black females with white males but if they choose not to then maybe another studio can do that.
I'd also like to add that Red Light has been dead for a couple of years so you should look for a still active studio for your comparaison.
coolfonz
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Posted - May 14 2012 : 9:57AM
That's a lie. WCP has quite a few WM/BF movies and they have another one on its way. If you want to talk about one sided IR, look no further than Jules Jordan or, even worse, Elegant Angel. I don't think I've seen a WM/BF movie from Jules in a long time, though I have seen a sporadic scene. As for Elegant Angel, I can't remember the last time they had a black girl get fucked by anyone other than LT.
JadaBlaze01
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Posted - May 14 2012 : 10:24AM
there are plenty of Black Female Performers in the industry and West Coast Productions employs a lot of Black Women on thier roster but they only have scenes with Black Males not White Males in the films they put out, WCP has a lot of Ebony Porn with Black Females in it also I might add West Coast Productions puts out IR Porn with Black Males and Asian Women so the scenes they only do are with Black Males with Black Females, Black Males with Asian Women but no IR Porn involving WM/BF,I think maybe whoever runs West Coast Productions dont like seeing Black Women and WHite Male Interracial Sex.
JadaBlaze01
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Posted - May 14 2012 : 10:42AM
Elegant Angel had a IR Series called " Big Black Wet Asses" it started off as a White Male/Black Female IR Series from Volumes 1-4 than when L.T. came to Elegant Angel as a Director he changed that series and took out the White Male performers and made it just him or one other Black Male performer having scenes through Volumes 5-12.
 
JadaBlaze01
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Posted - May 14 2012 : 10:56AM
one other thing Alexander Devoe who works as a Director over at Jules Jordan has shot plenty of IR BF/WM titles ,
"Black Ass Master" ," Racial Tension" and " Racially Motivated", are all IR Series that involve both White Males bangin Black Females stars like Marie Luv and Black Men banging White female Performers, so Jules Jordan mixes it up a lot in reguards to IR porn and are not one sided like West coast productions.
negrine
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Posted - May 14 2012 : 3:06PM
He's right. West Coast will release "Screw My Ass White Boy" later this month. (according to Xrentdvd)
They also produce the "Street Hookers For The White Guy" series. It's not a staggering amount of titles, but they exist nonetheless.

Edited by - negrine on 5/14/2012 8:08:20 PM

Draxxx
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Posted - May 14 2012 : 7:40PM
I'm sure WESTCOAST PRODUCTIONS is like most other studios where they've tried different things over the years and has figured out what works best for them. I'm sure they've tried different mixes and stick mostly with what sells the best and mostly deviate from that every once in awhile for the sake of variety.
JadaBlaze01
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Posted - May 14 2012 : 9:21PM
So BF/WM Ir Porn doesnt sell well? IR Porn involving White Males and Black Females sells good maybe not as big as IR between White Female and Black Male but its still sells higher than Black Male/Asian Women IR, Companies like Acid Rain and Devil Films put out a lot of Black Female White Male Porn, Devil Films " Gangland White Boy Stomp" it a huge series that has like 16 volumes but a studio like West Coast productions would never ever make any type of IR with Black Females being in a Gang Bang with White Male Performers cause maybe West Coast Productions is run by Black Men who dont want to see or shoot that type of IR.
zambi
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Posted - May 15 2012 : 12:54AM
^ This is starting to sound like troll. Why single out WCP?
Anyway this question has been asked and answered several times ..
https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/which-company-puts-out-the-best-irebony/reply/2215976#post
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Posted - May 15 2012 : 1:32PM
^ Starting to sound like a troll????? It's been nothing but troll material since the beginning.
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Posted - May 15 2012 : 2:07PM
WCP is THE BEST IR company around or better the BEST black oriented comany around if i want some fine product with BF/WM players I wouldn't question Leisure Time , would I?
coolfonz
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Posted - May 16 2012 : 10:16AM
Like I've said, when was the last time you saw a WM/BF scene from Elegant Angel? As for Jules Jordan, you confirmed what I said, they have the occasional WM/BF scene, but they don't have any titles dedicated to that type of IR. WCP has been putting out more WM/BF DVDs than those two productions combined. Them and Evil Angel are the only two that actually have titles anymore that are specifically WM/BF. I find it funny that you defend Elegant Angel, whose last WM/BF scene was likely years ago, and JJP for the 2-3 WM/BF scenes per year, but trash over WCP when they actually have the titles you're complaining they don't have.
JadaBlaze01
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Posted - May 16 2012 : 4:58PM
^ I have nothing against WCP I think they are a good Porn Studio that puts out good material I just posed a specific questions in reguards to thier IR collection of Porn I wasnt trashing WCP, I just havent seen these IR titles with WM/BF in West Coast Production IR Library maybe u could post a link to where I can find the IR titles with the focus being WM/BF. But I have seen plenty of those IR titles put out by companies like Acid Rain and Devils Films
[mod edit: quote removed. please do not quote the post directly above your own. just use an "up arrow". thx.]
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 5/16/2012 11:33:37 PM
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Posted - May 17 2012 : 4:55PM
^ This genre has always been produced sporadically at best. Even the Whiteboy Stomp series has only produced 19 volumes in 12 years. Not very prolific, if you ask me. I don't remember any Acid Rain titles, but New Sensations had a good series with Dippin' Chocolate, and they didn't continue it. Mercenary had a couple of volumes of White Man's Revenge, and that's gone nowhere. Alexander DeVoe toyed with the concept in Black Ass Master, but then made it more homogenous by using both black and white male performers. The best stuff was always produced by Mike Stefano, most notably with Feeling Black, but he doesn't direct anymore, and is happy to enjoy the booty other directors throw at him. WCP hasn't done more than a couple of these over the years, but flogging them for it makes no sense, as they see their audience as being primarily black males, who understandably are not chomping at the bit for these titles. I think too many people assume a genre is successful without having a clue as to the numbers of units actually being sold compared to others, then make outlandish statements to the effect of companies being stupid for passing up this obvious gold mine. Nobody would be happier than I if there were more wm/bf porn made, but the best I can hope for is that what is made is good, and that the assembly line crap factories don't flood the market with their boring cookie cutter scenes in response to a few squeaky wheels.
 
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Posted - May 17 2012 : 5:04PM
^
That last part is precisely why the request is made toward the best black oriented company around , I'm guessing
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Posted - May 17 2012 : 6:56PM
^ WCP is a company that targets a mostly black male audience. That is not the market for this particular genre. The fact that they're dabbling in it now owes more to the fact that tough economic times find them trying to expand their audience, but they have to be careful not to alienate their core and lose credibility, possibly losing market share to other companies like Black Market and Evasive Angles, as well as JSP, or a possibly resurgent Black Ice. Hopefully they'll be successful and continue to do more, but historically this has not been the case, or we wouldn't be talking about it now, as we have so many times before.
JadaBlaze01
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Posted - May 17 2012 : 8:37PM
The "Gangland Whiteboy Stomp Series" is the most consistent WM/BF IR series out there to have 16 volumes is very prolific for me, Acid Rain had a series called " I love Whiteboys", Tom Byron even directed a series" Black Ass Fixation",I really liked the White Mans Revenge flicks those 2 flicks were directed by Jimmy Scaffnetti who was a director over a Mercenary Pictures, I wonder why that series didnt last? I am thinking Maybe Lexington Steele stopped him from making other WM/BF IR titles,I liked the "Black Ass Master" Series that Alexander Devoe put out but I eventually knew that Alexander was gonna put Black Male Actors in the Films and not just let it stay a WM/BF IR Flick, those were some pretty good titles u mentioned.
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Posted - May 17 2012 : 10:35PM
Thank you for saying that. At some point people have to realize that some things they like aren't as popular as others and when a company doesn't do what they want it's usually for a good reason and not because they are stupid or wants to punish people.
I personally have no desire to see white male performers at WCP. There are plenty of studios where WM performers perform. I like that studios like WCP, BLACK MARKET, and BLACK ICE have their niche of mostly black male performers. I like having porn companies that caters to a specific genre/niche. I liked it when SCORE was all about big boobs. Now they're trying to do other things and I'm less interested in SCORE. I like that BRAZZERS does a particular type of porn. It's nice to know where to look when you want something specific...or want to avoid something specific. Every studio shouldn't try to please everyone...It's not a smart way to do business.
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Posted - May 17 2012 : 10:47PM
^In the immortal words of Deep Throat: "Follow the money." Btw, Scaffinetti is an Erik Everhard associate and frequent cameraman. Imho, the best people to make these scenes are the guys who are more invested in it. That's why Stefano was so good. Mario Rossi was good as well. These days it seems like Mike Adriano has a taste for women of color, but for my tastes, the claustrophobic POV and medical instruments don't do it for me. Mike John has put out great scenes, although he's never devoted a series to it. Manuel also appreciates black women. Mark Wood has long been involved with the genre, even producing his own title, Black Market, with his Le' Wood imprint. These are the guys to look to for quality porn of this variety. WCP is a good company that I've followed for a long time. They've been the proving ground for almost every top black male performer, with women of every color, nationality, or ethnicity. That's their core, and I don't expect them to stray from it.
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Posted - May 18 2012 : 9:00AM
I'm not sure of this, given the amount of IR they produce compared to Black on Black (at least for what arrives here in Europe) , I'd have to think that most blacks crave white pussy , I don't think so , they're the best not just because of IR but because of the way they film and directed, they would be among the best even if they had produced all whites movies.
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Posted - May 18 2012 : 12:33PM
^ They are a black owned company that has provided porn for a mostly black audience for many years. There was a brief experiment with Stefano and Brandon Iron that was very short lived, and the inclusion of white male performers is a new wrinkle. I'll not comment on the mores of their target audience and how that might affect the balance of what they produce, but from your vantage point, maybe your not getting a good read on everything they release. I mean Booty Talk is their most venerable series (possibly past 100 as we speak), and that's been mostly black on black. Anyway, I have to go on a road trip for a few days and won't be able to add anything more to this discussion.
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