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EthanConner
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Posted - Aug 30 2012 : 7:56PM
Why isn't there any GOOD Mother Daughter porn that's new or relatively new except for the ones directed by the black man?
Do ALL White porn directors lack creativity and enjoy boring scenes?
I just watched, "Mommy and Me and a Black Man Makes 3 part 3" and THAT is an example of a GOOD mother daughter 3sum. Emphasis on 3sum here.
Mother Daughter porn directed by the WHITE man like "Mommy and Me" part anything, the "mother" and "daughter" are always SOOOO far away from each other. They don't touch each other at all. They are ACTING the parts of mother daughter, so I don't see what the big deal is. These movies are like a 2 on 1 instead of a 3sum and the "2" is the girls and the "1" is the guy.
Why can't there be some good mother daughter scenes where a white guy is getting it on with a mother and a daughter in an ACTUAL 3sum?
In the ones where the black man takes over the white race, fucks the girl and her dad's current wife at the same time, the daughter sucks her mom's tits and also makes out with each other. They "act out" their characters better to cuz the daughter actually calls the mom, "mom." Unlike in a lot of the white ones, they treat it like an every day porn where it's like "OK.. fuck! ... DONE!"
BTW they dont' play STEP mom and step daughter either. :)
If the black man can do it, why couldn't the white man?
Could be a great series in the making!
EthanConner
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Posted - Sep 3 2012 : 4:38PM
just wanted to add in the "Mother and Me" series the 'mother' and 'daughter' are so far apart that they might as well be in different scenes.
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Posted - Sep 3 2012 : 5:30PM
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You do realize that incest is a crime right? In some Countries and maybe in some States it is a crime even with stepdaughters even though they aren't genetically related.
That is why they stay apart and don't act between them , to avoid any claim of incest.
anyway you surely want to try Wanna Fuck My Daughter gotta fuck me first 2 they may be distant in the scene but Elli and Desi Foxx are actual Daughter and Mother
scotlandthebrave
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Posted - Sep 3 2012 : 5:59PM
21st sextury do some good scenes on that front.
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Posted - Sep 3 2012 : 8:49PM
^Are you for real? 21sextury has never done INCEST PORN and never will. See LCF's comment as to why they don't do that. What 21sextury does do is old and young porn but the performers are not related and they don't play that part either.
 
EthanConner
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Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 1:33AM
A crime?
So black male directors don't have to worry about committing "crimes" then? Like I said, "Mommy and Me and a Black Man Make 3 - part 3" has the daughter making out with her mom. To this day I have never heard of anyone complaining about that movie at all. They would just be acting the part and not ACTUAL mothers and daughters anyways. Like in Stephen King's "Sleepwalkers" movie there is a scene where the guy fucks his mom, but they are not ACTUAL mother and son, so it was able to get released to public video.
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Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 2:11AM
Mother-daughter threesomes are rare, especially "real" ones, but Filly Flims dove right in with Seduced By Mommy 4. They pull no punches and call each other "mom" and "daughter" in 4 of the scenes.
EthanConner
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Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 6:18AM
thanks, Cody. I'll have to check that movie out if I can.
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Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 7:32AM
It is a crime , many don't want to risk others do, but it is a willing risk it is the same as rape , in many countries you can't depict a rape in a porn although it is possible in a mainstream movie , where everybody knows it is not real
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Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 12:58PM
^ I don't think it's because people might think it's real. I think it's part of the "porn is just different" hypocrisy. Tons of really questionable stuff goes on "for real" on camera in Hollywood movies (pre-teen nudity, children cursing and doing all sorts of whacky things for our entertainment, etc.).
Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 9/5/2012 1:04:15 PM
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Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 2:14PM
I have enough trouble with the storyline of a mother fucking her son or daughter's best friend, an actual mother and daughter fucking each other would send me to the loo throwing up my lunch! As for Desi Foxx, don't even get me started on her, our Janitor would ban me for sure if I said what I really thought of her essentially pimping her daughter out.
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Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 3:36PM
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Weren't both performing together at the Bunny Ranch for a while?
I've been told there were people from all over the world to engage with actual Mother Daughter together
Anyway Monica and Jessica Sexxxton are also actual Mother and Daughter , though they never performed in the same scene on DVD before starting their site but I don't know if they're still updating it
http://thesexxxtons.com/episodes.html
In there they perform together and have a DVD out published by Robert Hill

Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 9/5/2012 3:46:10 PM

scotlandthebrave
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Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 6:08PM
I'm not interested in incest. I meant mother/daughter age wise.
EthanConner
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Posted - Sep 5 2012 : 6:28PM
Cody, just saw some of the movie on pornpayperview.com - luckily they gave me free minutes this month. It was well done. EPIC!!! Tiffany Mynx has the perfect body and face combo to play the "mom" in porn. Also helps that I have been a HUGE fan of hers ever since I saw her on pissmops!
Definitely gonna go buy, "Seduced by Mommy 4" on DVD now!
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Posted - Sep 6 2012 : 9:09AM
I have Mommy, me, and a Gangster 1 from Combat Zone again an IR movie butthe girls interact , I just saw two scenes only that with India Summer and that with Nikki Hunter and Lola Foxx (an old scene her tattoo is yet to be completed)but not only India interacts rubbing her "daughter" but Nikki eat out hers here is a review:
https://www.adultdvdtalk.com/reviews/read_review.dlt/sku=26413/mommy-me-and-a-gangster.htm
Both the younger keep calling the older mommy or mom
Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 9/6/2012 9:10:20 AM
 
mharris127
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Posted - Sep 6 2012 : 1:00PM
If you don't mind the fact that the performers are unrelated Ashli Orion calls Matt Williams "Daddy" in a couple of Hogtied (Kink.com) scenes. Matt is no longer with Kink and has his own site hosted by Intersec called Sexually Broken. I don't know of any father-daughter type scenes on that site but it is very new and I don't think Ashli has performed for Sexually Broken as of yet. It isn't mother-daughter but I think the same effect is obtained.
As I said earlier I am not too fond of incest type scenes but there are a few out there if that is your kink (and you don't mind me puking on your TV).
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Posted - Sep 7 2012 : 5:21PM
Lola Foxx and Nicki Hunter also performed as Mother/Daughter in Seduced By Mommy #3 from Philly a lesbian movie
Geri
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Posted - Sep 8 2012 : 11:44AM
Is same-sex incest a crime?
If everyone involved is over the age of consent and is consenting there really is no logical reason why it should be.
Can you site any cases of same-sex incest which led to a prosecution and conviction which didn't involve underage and/or non-consensual sex?
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As a sub-genre of the overarching Cougar/Kitten theme, I find the 'step-mother/step-daughter' scenarios pretty hot. If a male character is introduced (generally the step-daughter's boyfriend) and there is simultaneous cock riding and pussy licking then so much the better. Reality King's 'Moms Bang Teens' series provides some choice scenes with this type of action.
Regarding the incest issue, given the porniverse is a realm of fantastical hyper-reality then portrayals of this taboo sexual activity (being, for the straight male porn fan, mother/daughter, mother/son, father/daughter), while disturbing in real life, may possibly be arousing. Having said this, even in a porny setting, I still feel uncomfortable with a father/daughter scenario. Am I being hypocritical? inconsistent? narrow minded? Heck, I don't know, but then my fantasy life has something of a will of it's own.
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Posted - Sep 8 2012 : 7:01PM
i think some states do have laws against incest, essentially left over relics from our puritanical roots is my impression. probably the biggest problem is that repealing the laws means people have to essentially publicly support incest, which is probably career/reputational suicide.
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As far as I know no law differentiate any gender it's just incest , in some Countries it is even incest sex between stepsons/daughters and stepfathers/mothers although they are genetically unrelated , it may also be incest if someone fucks an adopted son/daughter although again they usually aren't genetically related
Also we're talking about porn you can't for example depict a legal adult who plays as a minor and fuck although both the performers are consensual adults
Incest with people genetically related is not a puritanical issue it is one of the few taboos with a reason
Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 9/11/2012 8:48:02 AM
Geri
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Posted - Sep 11 2012 : 12:45PM
Yes, the reason for the taboo is that it can lead to children being born with serious genetic defects. In the case of incest between genetically related people of the same sex there is no genetic reason for it to be taboo because conception simply is not possible.
Anyway, I think you are mistaken. I think same-sex incest between adults is a very grey area for the law in most countries where homosexual acts are legal. I believe there would be a great reluctance on behalf of the prosecution services to pursue such cases where it is clear that the parties concerned are all consenting adults.
Also in porn, there are several cases of same-sex twins who have worked together and engaged in sexual acts with each other. As far as I'm aware no one has been prosecuted in connection with this material.
cjenks11
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Posted - Sep 12 2012 : 5:57PM
Mommy, me, and a Gangster 2 by combat zone is a great movie it also has full on incest no step insight :) check it out
EthanConner
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Posted - Sep 12 2012 : 9:34PM
to cjen and lauren cameron fan.. I KNOW that the black male directed porns have that.. but did you READ the topic? It is clear it means
"Is there any mother daughter 3 sum porns out there BESIDES the ones that are done by black men?"
I made this thread to find and inform people of mother daughter 3sums that DON'T have the black man as the lucky guy.
 
EthanConner
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Posted - Sep 12 2012 : 9:38PM
Not for me. The "step" thing kind of kills it for me! The only exception is the one with Renae Cruz where she refers to her step mom as "mom" and "mommy" in the actual sex scenes while she's getting it on with her and her boyfriend.
And if you feel uncomfortable watching it, then don't watch it. Just like I don't watch stuff like 2 girls 1 cup. lol.
And no you're not being a hypocrit. And no you're not being narrow minded. It's not like you're actually doing one thing and telling everyone they shouldn't do it. And you like what you like and you don't like what you don't like. It's just a personal preference.
Cody McLarge
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Posted - Oct 8 2012 : 5:24AM
And they went there again.
Filly Films presents Mommy And Me #4, another deep dive into lesbian mom-daughter role playing.
Hell, it's hotter than their last venture from scene 1. It starts with a sister-sister-mother threesome. Eva Kerera is the only drawback, as I don't care for harsh accents and it's a bit of a hole in the fantasy to have two daughters that speak perfect English and a mother that has a harder time with the language, and perhaps we shouldn't dwell on the three different ethnic backgrounds at play. If you can overlook all that and contain yourself long enough to survive "I love to have sex with my daughter," "Mommy, make me cum," and you wanna fuck your mommy," (I couldn't) then you're in for a real treat.
So if a lesbian company is getting away with all this, what is the holdup on believable mother-daughter porn from elsewhere in the industry. Reality Kings, great start on Moms Bang Teens, but step it up, please?
KMB2476
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Posted - Oct 9 2012 : 8:32AM
Thanks for the tip Cody. I'll check that out ASAP
Mr. Saliva
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Posted - Nov 4 2012 : 7:25PM
Thanks for the topic, EthanConner. I've wanted to create one about this theme a long time ago, but my english is very poor. I would like to see one list of mother/daughter movies, like in the g/g mouth to mouth spitting topic with contributions from fellow members. There are a lot of lesbian movies with older/younger stuff (like Sweetheart video and Girlfriends film ones), but they always avoid the incest theme with tricks (step). Seduced by mommy 4 is a new concept, because the girls say "mom" lots of times. I hope S anf G copy the concept. A topic with a list of this stuff will be great.
Portillo
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Posted - Nov 5 2012 : 8:24PM
Is this thread about fiction mother daughter or real life mother daughter porn?
KMB2476
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Posted - Nov 6 2012 : 7:27AM
I think it's about fiction. Finding real life would be exceedingly rare and probably illegal.
It's all about the fantasy...
EthanConner
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Posted - Nov 6 2012 : 12:01PM
no problem, Mr. Saliva. I agree with all that.
But not only do they avoid it with tricks like "step," SOME movies even have it listed as mother daughter but in the scene it's actually just an older woman with a younger woman.. especially on tube sites and stuff.
Also there's DVD's that are like, "mom's daughter fucked by mom's girlfriend." It's like seriously? who cares about THAT pairing? lol.
There are a few out there and I'm glad they have them. I like Seduced by Mommy 4 cuz it has the mother daughter true theme without the racial stuff.
I am glad u appreciate me having a thread on this, Mr. Saliva.
:)
EthanConner
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Posted - Nov 6 2012 : 12:14PM
Hi Portillo. I am the OP of this thread. And this thread is about fictional mother daughter porn scenes, but mother daughter scenes done right. Meaning actual mother daughter play and not just older women with younger women. Also no "step mom, step daughter" stuff. And also no black men fucking a mother daughter at the same time.
black male directors who have the black man fuck the white mom and the daughter at the same time actually already do it right. So this one is of mothers and daughters without black men.
So yes it's for fiction mother and daughter porn, but it's for fiction mother daughter porn DONE RIGHT.
EthanConner
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Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 6:56AM
to portillo,
in addition to what I said above, I also meant for the thread to be FICTIONAL mother daughters getting it on with EACH OTHER in the scene. Just like fictional mother and daughters do in the interracial ones.
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Posted - Nov 9 2012 : 8:27AM
Definitely, Filly Films is on the right track. I've seen Mommy And Me 4 and it goes in the same way.
 
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It's not mother and daughter fantasy but I want to note Filly is steppping it up again, Horny Lesbian Sisters.
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Cody, I thank you very much for bringing this to my attention
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So I spent a good part of my weekend plowing through these family-themed releases and I think I got a good lock on what works, what doesn't, and what to do now.
First of all, what doesn't work, because getting this wrong can totally kill a promising scene:
Age discrepancy - it just doesn't work if the "mom" and "daughter" appear less than 18 years apart. Star Nine seduces Casey Stone in the latest, Seduced By Mommy #6. Star Nine is 29 years old according to IAFD and Casey Stone is at least 18, obviously. I only looked that up because it was so obvious. Any porn fan has a deep appreciation for the willing suspension of disbelief, but a scene can push it too far.
Ethnicity - "moms", "daughters", and "sisters" of different ethnicity don't exist. You can fudge this a bit but the scene I previewed earlier features an Eastern European "mother", complete with a heavy accent, a Hispanic "daughter", and an Asian "daughter." The fuck?
Dialogue - when's the last time you heard people directly address each other by their relation? I've never heard "fuck me harder, boyfriend" in a porn scene and I shouldn't hear "oh, sister, you do that so well" or "daughter, lick my pussy!" in one either. "Mommy" obviously stays but "mother" is just creepy. This is an easy fix, but one that needs to be made.
Finally, a basic tenant for all visual art - performance. ACT! Porn fans are notorious for our ability to look past terrible acting, but again, a scene can push it too far. Plus, Seduced By Mommy establishes the same formula - "daughter" has to react to her "mom" coming onto her with revulsion, then weariness, then rip her "mom"'s jeans off and go down on the origin vagina like it's her last meal. To sell that, you can't go from believable revulsion to unbelievable acceptance that easily.
Shakira and Shae Snow's scene in SBM #6 almost suggests this isn't their first time, then falls back on the formula. It's easy to ignore, but it would be better had it stayed the course.
Oddly enough the Mommy and Me line doesn't seem to have this problem. It's usually the "daughter" instigating and it seems the aged performers aren't asked to put up as much of a fight, or they're better actresses.
A few of them are good enough, and feature great performers like Holly Michaels in Seduced by Mommy #3 (as I understand it, Filly's first shot at this fantasy relation), the whole cast of of SBD #4, Mia Malkova in Mommy and Me #5 and the cast of Mommy, Me, and a Gangster #2 from Filly's parent company, Combat Zone.
Because, what works, is voyeurism, plain and simple. That is why the threesomes are hotter. I still can't get through Britney Young and Angela Attison's scene in Mommy, Me, and a Gangster 2. They sit their boy toy down and put on a show, and it never fails. I'm not a fan of IR porn - can't put myself in the fantasy - but I could watch these again and again and again, because I love the voyeur aspect.
I also loved Horny Lesbian Sisters. Decent acting, believable pairings, and that last scene, two sisters seducing the other one, was hot, HOT, H-O-T HOT!
So to take off from here, the pairings have to be believable, and the set-ups have to be performed well, and I suggest tossing in some voyeurism. How about a "mother-daughter" cam show? A visit to a porno set? How about Combat Zone offer up a line with white dicks too?
For as long as they can legally get away with it, CZ and Filly should keep pumping these out - there's still gold in this stream.
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Posted - Mar 10 2013 : 11:52AM
^I agree that visible lack of age discrepancy is the most obvious thing that will ruin the fantasy aspect because we can never get past the fact that both performers cannot be mother and daughter. Ethnicity would also be an automatic fantasy killer unless we are talking about step-daughter/step-mother relationships. That can work but you should still make sure that the age discrepancy is there.
I have to disagree with you on the mommy thing because most people never call their mother or father by their first name so it sort of makes sense that they wouldn't do it during sex(at least in the fantasy scenario).
Dialogue and acting are very important to me because if the performers can't sell it then it's unlikely that I'll buy it. Therefore I want to see some believable dialogue between the Mother and the Daughter and you need some acting talent for that.
Chemistry is also very important and even if the acting and dialogue are good then any lack of chemistry will seriously drop the heat level of the scene.
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Posted - Mar 10 2013 : 5:56PM
I totally agree with both you guys above, also all of the scenes has to much cunninglus there isnt any tribbing/grinding going on, so add this and your on to a winner. The best mother daughter scene i have watched is Wild Moms & Daughters - Perverted Playtime with Margo and Briana ,if you haven't watched it please do then report back, you wont be disappointed.
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Posted - Mar 17 2013 : 3:06PM
Daughters always call mom or mother to their mothers, no by their names. The seduction is the part of mother-daughters movies that i like. The age discrepancy is the worst. And the smiles and laughter.
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If its your best seller why don't you release one eery month ill sure buy them.
EthanConner
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Posted - Apr 19 2013 : 11:40PM
sure, but I was looking for white and or asian mother daughter scenes with this thread.
"Why isn't there any GOOD Mother Daughter porn that's new or relatively new EXCEPT for the ones directed by the black man?
Why can't there be some good mother daughter scenes where a white guy is getting it on with a mother and a daughter in an ACTUAL 3sum?"
Mr. Saliva
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Posted - Aug 10 2013 : 7:53AM
WOW. The Many Shades of Juliette March. First scene, with Juliette and Sadie Lune, is really HOT. Juliette says "mommy" like fifty times.
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Lethal Hardcore and their contributions to the matter must not be ignored completely here. At their best they're really good. And that is what's mattering in the end.
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These might be too old for the OP, but Elegant Angel's now dormant It's a Daddy Thing had a nice scene of "mother/daughter" and a guy getting it on. As I recall (I have all 5 in the series), but I'm just firing this off from memory. In the second edition Aubrey Adams is the daughter, Keisha is the mom and she wants some modeling pictures of her daughter shot by Mark Davis. They end up in a threesome. In the third edition Aubrey Adams is the young girl kissing Steve Holmes and she asks something like, what if your wife comes home? Mae Victoria shows up and they end up in a threesome. Volume 3 also has an interesting scenario of Dave Cummings as the depressed father of Kyle Stone. Kyle has his hot wife (Brianna Love) get busy with with dad and a threesome ensues. I really like volume 3. Several other hot scenes although not what the OP is interested in. The movies are of 2006 and 2007 vintage according to iafd.
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to me, it's because there's no interaction between "mother"/"daughter". GFFilms isn't explicit enough, usually, so it's ignored here too.
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