Yet women still love him. Now I understand he has one of the most appealing looks to women, him along with Xander, Logan, and a couple clones that have entered the industry after him. Have women actually seen his movies? He's always looking to facefuck and gag the girl and he's got his hands on the girl's head. I would think gentle giants like Billy Glide and Johnny Sins would be more appealing, but I guess women dont see it that way.
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Posted - Dec 21 2013 : 11:44PM
Gentle giants, lol. Oh, and Johnny Sins is really popular with female performers.
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Posted - Dec 21 2013 : 11:51PM
Probably second to James. And he doesn't choke them either.
it's just silly to ask 'have they even watched his movies' uhhhh of course, how else would women know they like him if they haven't seen him in action. Personally I and other women I know prefer men with passion and intensity. Nothing is appealing to me about 'gentle giants' who just sit back and pump away without making any attempt at making a connection. Plus James is definitely not rough in every scene, he's a regular on sites like x-art and sweet sinner. And when he is rough it is always because the girl in the scene enjoys that type of sex and James is always seeking to find out what the woman he's with likes (which is another reason he's popular with women).
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Posted - Dec 22 2013 : 6:23AM
any complaints from female performers or 'no' listings?
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Posted - Dec 22 2013 : 6:54AM
I know he's on my "not watch" list. Same problem with him as Manuel, they try to take over the scene and make it about them and not the woman. I watch porn for the women, not for the men and performers like James tries to take the focus off the women and put it on them. Plus I don't like to see women slapped around, which is why I skip scenes with him, Manuel etc. etc.
^ you'll live, there are millions of scenes out there that focus on the woman and the dudes sit back and pump away silently and almost passively. we women deserve a few performers who do things that actually turn us on and make us enjoy watching porn (like talking, kissing, etc). That's why james and manuel are so popular with women. I've never heard a woman in the industry say anything negative about James. I've read several women like lexi belle, april o'neil, stoya, jesse jane, and ava addams say he's their favorite person to work with
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Posted - Dec 22 2013 : 11:51AM
I know of atleast one female performer who placed him on her No list after performing with him. But whatever the case, he's highly overrated.
I think it's pretty cool that women like him so much. Seems like lots of guys are mad that there's a popular male pornstar out there so they make up various reasons to dislike him. I'm not that insecure. Women I know who I would never guessed watch porn like him so I think it's awesome that there's a guy who is opening women up to watching and liking porn. Plus he gets hot amateur girls who would have never done porn to do a scene with him so he's good in my book Also I've only heard positive things about him from women in the industry. He has a good rep, which is another reason he's so popular.
There are too many "straight" male who really are too focused on the males performing , I don't care unless they are limp ,unnecessarily too rough or cover the girl too much. as about performers who are able to focus on them , well there's a market out there I can't blame a talent who wants to make sure to stay in demand , to do so you just need to point point out you are in there , not just a dick pumping , but you a person. also I do like a man who interact with the girl and vice versa , that's what I do when I fuck, and I do exactly what a woman wants the way she wants sometimes anticipating her and enjoying her surprised reaction. He does the same very often , even when they both act such behaviour makes very easy to believe they are actually enjoying sex , or better you can't tell when they aren't.
Who?Come on dont tease us like that spill it out man :)
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Posted - Dec 22 2013 : 2:41PM
We are in agreement. And, yes, the apostrophes really are necessary in this case. I will add that I watched the scene with Deen and Janice Griffith. Until now, I had heard the name Toni Ribas but had never seen him. Dude comes off like a fucking tuffguy asshole. What is it with these Euro guys shoving their fingers and hands in girls' mouths? The coolest thing in the world would be if his partner returned the favor or spit in his face.
^As much as I don't like Deen, Ribas is definitely worse. The guy acts like a fucking moron in every scene, I keep hoping some girl will choke and slap him back. Anyway, since I'm too lazy to come up with a rant about Deen I shall not derail the thread further.
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Posted - Dec 22 2013 : 5:12PM
wholeheartedly agree with you. It's like James is insecure yet cocky at the same time.
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Posted - Dec 22 2013 : 5:34PM
I'll buy that. I also agree that Deen's mainstream popularity is good for porn and its viewers. He's had a lot to do with porn become more accepted and less taboo.
I think you'll probably have more success in getting answers to "why do women like James Deen" if you check out his fanblogs... deenme.tumblr.com or whatever you wanna start with.
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Posted - Jan 7 2014 : 12:27PM
I'm one of the straight males who have preferences in who's fucking the girls in porn; I like to see highly charged scenes with an edge, there's nothing better than a hot girl wanting to be, and getting roughly fucked with some motivating ass spanks and breast slaps. Obviously Deen, Ribas, Ramon and Mr Pete are some of the performers I like to see doing the fucking and I openly look out for their scenes. These guys must be doing something right because they seem to get a lot of work from studios and web based porn sites.
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Posted - Jan 7 2014 : 1:12PM
the first three. Pete used to get a lot of work, but not anymore. I just dont think the girls are attracted to him
Lot of rankin' on James Deen on the forum...maybe the guy does need to come down a peg. Easy on the criticism - KillBill will get you. Bill - why'd ya kill this thread? https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/male-performers-who-ruin-scenes-for-you Edited by - KinkWilliams on 1/7/2014 1:49:15 PM
Since it has been mentioned that Toni Ribas is even more disgusting than J Deen , I wanted to add here that it was this same Toni who ruined the Gangbang scene of " Remy Lacroix 2 " with his unnecessary roughness . Unfortunately this kind of behaviour is seen too often in J Deen and others also .
Since I don't pick up at all those movies you guys are complaining about , my only "experience" with the guy were his featured movies and those at Burning Angel with Joanna Angel , recently I saw him in a Kink's bound gang bang DVD (that with Chastity Lynn one of the VERY FEW performers able to make me buy almost anything) Pornstar Punishment DVD #6 (Bree Olson in there) and his recent "homemade" series (Girl X was just fantastic) Aside those supposed to be rough I didn't find him as violent as you say , the guy works a lot, I mean REALLY a lot.
^ well im not complaining at all, i like rough sex, and james is very good at it, i dont like that normal sex that most of us see, if a girl is a bit dominated in a scene then that is a treat for me.
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Posted - Jan 7 2014 : 4:06PM
There's a widespread stereotype about women that the only kind of sex we're interested in is best referred to as "making love." I'm sorry, but fuck that. No woman wants that all the time and many don't want that most of the time. I'm a fan of Deen because he dominates his women, not in spite of it. The sex he has on camera is the kind of sex I'd like to have more often in my personal life. Unfortunately, most men I've encountered become uncomfortable if I suggest rough sex. I recall seeing Kelly Divine discuss similar experiences she's had with men, in which she's asked them to take control of her only to have them react like castrated cowards. She described exactly the sort of response that women like myself regularly encounter and have come to expect. Some men claim that their reason for watching porn is the paucity of "real" women who are willing to behave in bed the way that pornstars do. Well, a lot of us watch porn for the same reason, except that in our experience it is men who are not only unwilling but in fact afraid of behaving like Manuel, Prince Yashua, Nacho, Deen, Rocco (especially back in the old days), etc. despite our explicit permission to do so.Is it so hard for you to fathom that some of these women may actually enjoy being choked and slapped by him? Is that just an impossibility for you?That is good advice, and it will confirm what I wrote.Are you blissfully unaware of the fact that Remy LaCroix enjoys rough sex? This young woman was chosen by Princess Donna herself to participate in her birthday shoot for Sex and Submission. She's not some delicate flower. Edited by - misspornUSA on 1/7/2014 4:19:56 PM
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Posted - Jan 7 2014 : 4:36PM
This. He isn't Max Hardcore. Hell, even Manuel is rougher. I have no problem with him....cept maybe, I'm jealous of all the hot trim he gets bang. :)
Remy Lacroix FIRST SHOOT EVER was a bound gang bang scene at KINK. go figure. Bobbi Starr entered in porn at KINK and became a gonzo star some time after When Nacho came back to America she managed to shoot with him as much as possible and be treated nacho style , and remember she was producer and director at least once Leya Falcon is another who likes it rough , very rough. And I understand the point of misspornoUSA , I'm one of those who won't be as rough as she would like , a former lover of mine liked it rough and violent she was aroused by the denial of orgasms , she wanted me to slap her in the face when I saw (she was telling actually) she was coming , hard , I mean very hard she wanted to be stopped from coming (although actually she came the harder that way) the harder I did the harder she came unless I pulled out but then she was even more aroused than before and I thought it wasn't possible. But the fact is I didn't enjoy sex that way , I couldn't be as violent as she wanted even though I could be a lot dominant verbally and psychologically , but it was for her I really couldn't get off that way, it was hard to come to an end. we split because of ME I couldn't be rough enough according to her. man I left five red fingers on her face once and she said it wasn't enough!
Being a dominant myself I feel badly that LCF could not satisfy his BDSM loving girlfriend's urges. Hang in there LCF, you will find someone to love soon. Actually you not being so far into BDSM may be helpful for you, most women aren't into that activity. I am the opposite, I need to be able to at least tie up my lovers before and during sex, if she (I am a straight male) can enjoy slapping, caning, whipping, etc. all the better. It is all a matter of finding someone that a person is sexually compatible with. Unfortunately permanent love at first sight doesn't happen very often in this world. As for James Deen, from the limited information I have on him he seems like he can change into whatever is required for a scene. He does a lot for Kink yet he can do a sensual lover scene for Nica Noelle's movies as well. Other than age he reminds me of Dick Nasty in that regard -- Dick could do an easy and gentle introduction to porn scene for Luc Wylder's Amateur Angels series yet do a rough scene for another producer. I suspect that the tough guy act James does at Kink is an act as he is married to Stoya who I don't think was known for or into the rough stuff, he has to keep her satisfied as a lover and when you are fucking on your own time most don't like to act like something they aren't.
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Posted - Jan 7 2014 : 10:16PM
One of the funnier things I've seen in porn in the fairly recent past is a PublicDisgrace.com shoot featuring Jessie Rogers; it was the one they shot in a hardware store. Ribas is the designated meat puppet in the scene. At some point, a female bystander sneaks up behind Ribas and gives him a hard whack on the ass, kind of turning the tables on things for a brief instant. He gets all flustered, and Princess Donna has to make an announcement that no one is allowed to touch Toni without his permission.
First off, they're dating, not married, I'm about 99.5% sure. Secondly, Stoya is, pretty much undoubtedly, into that rough(er) stuff. She didn't get to shoot it because she was signed to DP, but even then, here scenes there were rougher than all the other girls they had signed combined, and she was the only one of their contract girls to do anal, interracial, and DP for the entire time she was signed. Not to mention that she did a scene this year with Rocco Siffredi for Evil Angel while she was still under contract with DP, and had stated before that Rocco was one of the people she most wanted to work with in porn.
^ they share a cat, to me this means they just lack papers rather than just dating... anyway it is true Stoya scenes have always been the rougher in DP even just because she did anal regularly and DPs often , she defined her scene with Rocco as "glorious" , her word. again about Deen I don't know what he likes in his private life , but he is rough when it need be , I mean he's never unnecessarily mean when it's not required by the scene he's performing in, he's a perfect professional in that.
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Posted - Jan 8 2014 : 3:38AM
Hahaha, I need to see that. I've always thought of him as a more palatable version of Nacho Vidal. Like a dude with the same tendencies that hasn't yet decided to say "fuck it" and turn every scene into a damn sideshow.
I wasn't aware she did a scene with Rocco. The scenes I have seen her in didn't come across to me as overly rough (granted I haven't seen every DP scene she did, I quit watching their scenes as soon as Manfuck bought them) but I am the resident forum kinkster so maybe my yardstick on this is a bit warped. I'll have to look up the Rocco scene.
^The Rocco scene isn't out yet, I believe. Her scene with Lea Lexis is available on the Evil Angel site right now, I believe, but it will be a while before the Rocco scene gets released. As for her DP scenes, I was fairly surprised by how "rough" her scene with James in Nurses was. There's some choking, some slapping, and anal.
Never really liked him but one thing I hate is fake porn and when I saw him bang Farrah Abraham I immediately liked him. Also saw a video where he had sex with some famous comedy girl. His stuff is real. I don't like face fucking but, I like how he fucks he is just very passionate.
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Posted - Jan 9 2014 : 1:43AM
I wouldn't say it's the end of the story. On the contrary... ...the story has only begun...
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Posted - Jan 9 2014 : 4:29PM
I wonder what the adult movie market would be like if the only porn available consisted of scenes featuring a gentle session of foreplay with the caressing of bodies, nibbling of ears and mutual masturbation, followed by intercourse with lots of kissing. What about 5 guys pleasuring a girl with lotions and massage while they individually satisfied their needs, but being careful she's kept in a comfortable position while they make love.......Hmmm I wonder...
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Posted - Jan 12 2014 : 11:30AM
The highly charged scenes with guys who ass spank, breast slap and generally roughly fuck girls, the girls sign up for that type of scene. You rarely see a girl react against the rough treatment dished out by the guys or other girls for that matter. If a performer like Dana DeArmond who has delivered top quality edgy porn for several years is signed up for a scene with James Deen and Mr Pete and the director says it's a rough scene, Dana knows what's going to happen and is paid accordingly. To be honest I think it's a fantasy fetish for some men when a girl reacts positively to an ass spank or a few breast slaps, the girl starting to fucking harder and faster, asking for more spanks is a real turn on for lots of guys. By the way, there are few better than Dana DeArmond for delivering that type of scene....
The idea isn't to fuck up someone's face to the point of which she needs ER attention. I will never forget the pictures of the aftermath after Clayra Banks' scene. Her eyes were red and blue and her face was all fucked up. In BDSM we (with a sub's permission and enjoyment) leave marks on asses, backs, thighs and even tits but never faces (and especially not blacken eyes). I support free speech but IMO Facial Abuse's brand of entertainment this country could do without (even though I would not support legislation in that direction).
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Posted - Jan 12 2014 : 5:35PM
I agree, but there's a scary aspect to consensual rough sex in real life. Some of the things we see in the news make prudent men overly cautious about consent.
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Posted - Jan 21 2014 : 8:45PM
Couldn't agree more. I can't figure out why Deen and Ferrara get so much work. IMO they take over/hog the scene by being too intense and almost smothering to the women. It's frustrating because they do lots of scenes that I have to pass on because of their horrible performing style. Porn guys should IMO be as little a part of the scene as possible and make the scene all about the female. Edited by - Cloudburst on 1/21/2014 8:47:06 PM
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