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sc92trojan
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9/03
Posted - May 25 2004 : 5:25PM
Well being Japanese I don't agree with the myth. I think every race has their share of big and small.
sc92trojan
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USA
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Posted - May 25 2004 : 5:26PM
Think you could do any better?
sc92trojan
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USA
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Posted - May 25 2004 : 5:27PM
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Master B
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144 Posts
7/03
Posted - May 25 2004 : 6:26PM
oh my god! renee you're so fine and i would love to have my first tryout with you. just thinking about it gets me rock hard. chico, i just want to thank you so much for offering me a shot. of course with my luck it's across the freaking country. honestly, if i could somehow get to l.a. i would in a heartbeat but i don't think i could afford it right now. you have no idea how pissed i am right now especially after seeing reenes post. i'm going to see what i can do to try to get over there but it's not looking good. why can't there be any east coast companies out there?
 
dac
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2/04
Posted - May 25 2004 : 6:30PM
To clear up the debate ove Asianman.com, just spoke to Loni, who's on that site, and she confirms that he is indeed Asian -- Chinese, as a matter of fact. Though she also mentioned the same thing one poster did, that his descriptions of how the scenes came about are pure fantasy ... that's websites for ya! :)

dac

tux
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32 Posts
12/03
Posted - May 26 2004 : 1:51AM
Master B,
I don't know how many people are on this site, nor do I know how appropriate you'd be for this....(if you're 350 pounds and ugly or something could be a problem), but I'd contribute 5-10 bucks to a Paypal account or something to get you to California if you're serious and if Chico's serious.

We could make this a rare case of talking about a problem then using the forum to do something about it.
It's possible that if money for the ticket is the only issue there might be some interest with enough 5 buck contributors to make it happen.

We'd want a full report from both Chico and you about what happened though posted on this forum.

Chico Wang
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775 Posts
1/04
Posted - May 26 2004 : 4:48AM
Master B, you have to find out for yourself if you have what it takes and you believe in yourself. This is a chance to fuck primo pussy which I'll deliver but, and this is a big but, there are a few requirements ...

The one thing I can not teach is how to keep your dick hard with me behind the camera and a girl spreading or sucking your dick. That's up to you and your genetics, biology, whatever the fuck it is.

From then out, we have to see if you have what it takes to control a scene (if the girl can not). Someone has to play quarterback. This generally takes a while before you can pull it off.

A relatively average to large dick is required (otherwise the camera can't see penetration). Think Jay Ashley or John Strong who both have relatively average sized dicks but keep it hard throughout the scene to flow with it. (Unless you want pro-am stuff like Ed Powers).

Keeping your dick hard when the camera is rolling is the most essential but is only step 1 in a 10 step process.

Here's a couple of stories for you:

Erik Everhard, arguably the greatest performer on American soil today, drove to pornoland in a fucked up car because he knew he could do it. He was broke but wanted to fulfill his dreams. And see where he's at today.

Tony T., without a doubt, the best new male performer today rivalling most veterans of the business, flew to California with just a pocketful of change and see where he's at today. Unfortunately, he hooked up with me but this kid is going to be a dominant force.

The question, I suppose is, do you believe in yourself, and how hungry are you?

If you're confident, you can send me a private email at wankerwang@yahoo.com.

Chico Wang

kerrville
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kerrville, texas
39 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 26 2004 : 5:02AM
That is so funny, because I just checked his Message Forum and he has legions of virgin asian guys begging him for tips on how he picked up all these beautiful women. Well this LYING "asianman" makes up stuff like dressing nice, be confident, etc. When the truth is HE PAID TO GET LAID.
This is totally hilarious! The guy lives in a fantasy DON JUAN DE MARCO WORLD!

Edited by - kerrville on 5/26/2004 5:03:31 AM

Asmodeus
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Posted - May 26 2004 : 5:12AM
Way to go, Chico! I applaud you for offering your services to someone from this forum, especially one who may fit the criteria that you've been specifically looking for. I'd love to see a new Asian male participate in today's hardcore gonzo market and it doesn't matter to me if he's well-endowed - just as long as he's able to maintain a nice erection and bang those girls righteously, thats all that really matters as far as I'm concerned.

Edited by - Asmodeus on 5/26/2004 5:19:38 AM

Portis28
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Posted - May 26 2004 : 8:54AM
I dont get these references to Asian men and the size of their penises? I mean, i live in a place with a huge Asian population, a genuinely mixed race environment with significant numbers of white folks, some latinos and some blacks. I just dont see the difference in dick sizes (flaccid) in the locker room and i dont hear my female friends make any generalizations between the Asian men and non Asian men they've slept with.

I mean, arent these stereotypes based on ridiculously small samples? How many naked and erect Asian guys does the average white person, either male or female, see that enable them to come to these sweeping generalizations?

Renee_Pornero
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2/03
Posted - May 26 2004 : 10:12AM
Well I never had an asian guy and I am just curious about it. So if I get a chance to make new experiences I'll take it.

The cliché about asians having small dicks is the same one like blacks having big ones. I only had black cocks on camera and most of them were big. That's why they hire them. I am sure there are black guys with average and small ones out there, too. So I think there should be asians with big ones as well. I hope so! :-)

Anyway, we all want to see big cocks on screen. It looks way better. But more important than that the guy has to be strong.

I wouldn't say I am totally into asians, but sometimes when I walk down the streets I see some really good looking, young & stylish asian studs, where I go "damn, I want to try that one"...

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ChrisSnow
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419 Posts
4/03
Posted - May 26 2004 : 10:14AM
Too bad I'm not asian :-)
RickLee
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6 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 26 2004 : 6:48PM
"That asian-man is a joke. He covers his face and I believe he might be Mexican. These type of losers that shoot POV and cover their face figured it is cheaper to pay for porn girls and recoup their money back on the internet than pay an escort for privates. These type of face-less wannabees are flooding the internet."

Hey Kerville, I am Asian Man himself and I think you are the joke. I mean, first of all, where the hell do you get out that I am Mexican?? secondly, if I am a looser "who shoots" pov, why the hell do you come to my site and other sites to posts about me?? I mean who is the looser?? also, the fact is that will get stuck in "envy-can't ge laid-hate rick lee land" all your life while I fuck and make $$ (it will take several of your generation to come close). I have nothing to prove to the likes of you and I think the 1.5 minute that I've wasted addressing your looser ass is too much time already. Go get a life or hang yourself, you sorry ass.


Edited by - RickLee on 5/26/2004 6:50:32 PM

kerrville
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kerrville, texas
39 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 26 2004 : 9:12PM
Rick Lee,
I just felt ripped off when I joined your site. It is FALSE ADVERTISING when you say asian man having sex with girls. When I joined you dont even show your FACE if you are asian, white, or latin. Please put a DISCLAIMER on your site saying " NO FACES SHOWN- BUT I SWEAR ON MY MOMMA I AM ASIAN". It is like advertising BRAD PITT POV PORN DOT COM and you cant see BRAD PITT'S FACE, just some guy's crotch shots. I know you make alot of $$$ from people anxious to see an ASIAN performer...but not showing the face is a BIG DISAPPOINTMENT. Maybe I should be like YOU and start a paid website advertising BRAD PITT POV and when you join you will see me without my face. Maybe I can be like you and start making some easy $$$ from unsuspecting consumers.
 
RickLee
Member

6 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 26 2004 : 11:07PM
"FALSE ADVERTISING "

Are you gay?? What the fuck is wrong you man. Is not my fucking problem you don't read my bio. I've had my site for 3 years and I am in documentaries and research papers all over the place. Maybe I should put a disclaimer for gay guys trying to look at my face so they won't go around posting I'm Mexican. That's a pretty idiotic way of going about things, if you felt violated all you needed to do was ask me for a refund and I would have gladly given it to you.

nationmasters.com

Edited by - RickLee on 5/26/2004 11:10:18 PM

Edited by - RickLee on 5/26/2004 11:11:14 PM

jaydee
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5/04
Posted - May 27 2004 : 12:59AM
hey renee, have you ever been with an asian man before. are there any attractive asian men u like thats famous
cv
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Posted - May 27 2004 : 1:09AM
As an Asian guy, I suppose should eventually chime in.

If you look at credible penis size surveys, the differences between the various races are rather minimal. If Caucasians average 6", then Asians average around 5.5" and blacks around 6.5". Penis length is a bell-curve distribution, so yes, you can find black guys with 4" penises and Asians with 8" penises; both will be rather rare.

I don't think the lack of Asian men in American porn should be looked at any more than an apparent lack of Asian guys who are motivated to be porn stars. If you have a relatively small population coupled with a widespread avoidance of performing, you simply aren't going to have a very big talent pool.

An Asian mystique? I suppose there is, but there's a mystique about every ethnic group for someone out there. I couldn't figure out what it was that some of my girlfriends dug about Asian guys, but I certainly wasn't complaining.

Chico Wang
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775 Posts
1/04
Posted - May 27 2004 : 3:45AM
I'm not exactly sure what it is but I agree with cv that Asian males do not readily storm into the industry like other ethnicities do.

Maybe it's a cultural thing. Most Asians tend to be on the quieter side or with a calm demeanor.

I'm an absolute rarity in this industry where there are few male Asians either in front of the camera or behind the camera. But then again, nobody ever accused me of being quiet or being calm. I wish there were more Asians in the business and will help facilitate it as long as people are qualified.

Regardless, I personally would like to see more qualified black performers than anything else. I do the occasional interracial scene here and there but to me there's nothing in America more cool than a big black dick going into a tiny white chick. In terms of pure marketability and the type of scenes I want, the great black male performer is on my number one wish list.

Of course, helping to develop a good Asian performer would make me feel better about the tofu and kimchi I eat daily too. :)

Rene, if I find a potential Asian candidate, would you like to de-virginize him, porno-style? I'm all game and I'm sure you are.

Chico

kerrville
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kerrville, texas
39 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 27 2004 : 4:49AM
Rick Lee,
My sexual orientation does not matter, so what if I am different? You do not need to act ghetto and use foul language. I did check your BIO and there is NO PICTURE of you. Cool you did documentaries but NO PICTURE of you. Can someone please post this asian pornstar's photo. I want to see how good looking, suave, and great dresser you claim to be. Rick, when you are a porn star on videos and website.. Please be aware that now you are a public figure and a celebrity, people want to see your FACE. So I do not know why you get mad, if you are ASHAMED then do not do pornos. I also find it hard to really believe you are asian male pornstar... You know what people say seeing is believing. I still am watching the video I downloaded from your site and I could swear you have some sort of Mexican accent and you were really brown skinned. Maybe you have asian eyes but is Mexican or Latin. Or maybe you are half asian and half mexican. Who knows... all I know is I PAID to see an ASIAN MALE PORNSTAR boinking a hot white girl and what I got was headless dude (could be any race). Like I said WHAT A RIP OFF!!!


Edited by - kerrville on 5/27/2004 5:01:33 AM

Edited by - kerrville on 5/27/2004 5:04:56 AM

RickLee
Member

6 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 27 2004 : 5:16AM
Wait a minute, you are the one that started this shit. So you can't expect me to be all nice to you. But since you say you paid, I'll just post pics for people here to see.. and maybe you can say sorry for attacking me in the first place.

http://www.asian-man.com/pics.htm

scatman
Member

175 Posts
4/04
Posted - May 27 2004 : 9:16AM
For a guy who's gettin so much trim, you're quite hostile.
RickLee
Member

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5/04
Posted - May 27 2004 : 12:37PM
I am actually very easy going and laid back. However, I can't help being hostile when I am attacked and I think that is a perfectly reasonable response for anyone with some diginity.
Janitor
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Posted - May 27 2004 : 12:49PM
RickLee, if you can't help being hostile then don't post. Read our forum etiquette. We have some basic rules that you need to follow if you care to participate.
skronker
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Posted - May 27 2004 : 1:13PM
When Threads Attack!

{Sorry, this whole ruckus just made my day}

 
RickLee
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5/04
Posted - May 27 2004 : 2:15PM
"Read our forum etiquette. "

I just came here to defend myself. Sorry if anyone got offended by my tirade, I won't post again. In fact, you can go ahead and delete all my posts but if you do, please take the posts that are attacking me in the first place.

Ramsey
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Trina Michaels fan
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10/02
Posted - May 27 2004 : 2:18PM
I can understand where he's coming from because kerrville's attacks on him are very unfair.

Btw, Rick Lee, I hope your DVD's plans are still on schedule. I really look forward seeing them.

kerrville
Deactivated User

kerrville, texas
39 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 27 2004 : 6:39PM
Rick Lee,
If you are asian how come your business address is in VENEZUELA? Isn't that a latin american country? I checked your website for 2257 info and your address is in Venezuela so you really are LATINO.

Here is the proof:

All persons who appear in any visual depiction contained within any BASA Productions built and maintained site are eighteen years of age or older at the time of creation of such depictions. All such images of a sexual nature are documented as required by US Federal Law under the Child Protections Act: Section 18 United States Code (U.S.C.) 2257 and the regulations of Section 75 C.F.R. Section 75 by the manufacturer concerned, except with regard to visual depictions of sexually explicit conduct made before July 3rd 1995, which are exempt from the regulations set forth in 18 U.S.C. subsection 2257 and 28 C.F.R. 75. The Certification Records and other documentation to pertaining can be located at the offices of the manufacturer, owner or licensor as listed (in no particular order) below:

Banda Ancha Sociedad Anonima
Caracas, Venzuela

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this is ridiculous. let it go. -steph

Edited by - Steph on 5/28/2004 12:22:29 PM

morbidthoughts All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 27 2004 : 7:47PM
Ummnn Kerrville, it may be hard to believe but there's a lot of asians in the northern part of South America.
fatmaneatschild
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46 Posts
2/04
Posted - May 27 2004 : 8:35PM
yo morbid, who is that hot chick in your avatar?

In my history class when the blonde next ot me was asked who bombed Pearl Harbor, she replied - "the Hawaiians?" :-o

cv
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Posted - May 27 2004 : 9:05PM
Argghhh, what a moron .

Everyone knows the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. Sheesh!

(Source: Sen. John Blutarsky)

pepito dicaprio
Member

147 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 27 2004 : 9:16PM
Its true
its not Dutch which bombarded Perl Harbor ?????

VUREN

fatmaneatschild
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46 Posts
2/04
Posted - May 27 2004 : 9:49PM
To my understanding, the dutch massed a great force and storm the beaches of Normady on D-Dat, but they were not involved in Pearl Harbor.
fatmaneatschild
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46 Posts
2/04
Posted - May 27 2004 : 9:51PM
Also to my understand, it seems that I CAN'T SPELL WORTH SHIT!!!!!
Canadian Girl
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Posted - May 28 2004 : 1:36AM
I didn't know that this topic had been revived with such debate since I last posted here. My original question, which I still have is just why is it that there are so many popular Asian women in porn and not Asian guys? There is no male equivalent to an Asia Carrerra or a Miko Lee, and I just wonder why.
 
tux
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Posted - May 28 2004 : 2:39AM
I feel bad. I inadvertently started the flame war by mentioning that Rick Lee doesn't show his face on his site which makes it hard to tell that he's actually Asian. It's kind of odd, you can tell someone's black just by looking at the penis. You can't tell if a guy's Asian that way, which maybe suggests that if Asian guys are smaller they're not so much smaller that it's evident from just looking at the size of their penises.

Looking over this thread.
1)bunch of horny Asian guys who for the most part don't want to try getting into the business. Well one guy did, but he seeemed to disappear after Chico said that he's give him a tryout.
2) Chico Wang who produces the stuff but is one of the few guys on that end who has never been in front of the camera.
3) Rick Lee who does porn but doesn't show his face on his site.

It occurs to me that Asian culture trains males to be very aware of how their actions reflect on their family/community. That pull tends to be stronger than for people with roots in more individualistic cultures.

I suspect that females from Asian cultures have more opportunities to break from their own cultural constraints of being very aware of how your actions reflect on your family. IE...there are more who hooked up with a non-Asian guy and left their home culture behind to a certain extent.
(though Asia Carrera is half-German I think so maybe it was her mom who broke off)

There are other reasons as well. I do think there is an American cultural fear of emerging Asian men...ie...they make more money, are better educated...may be much better sexually since they have a cultural imperative to please others first before they worry about their own pleasure.
How many non-Asian American men would really want to have their worst fears of Asian men confirmed in movies?


tux
Member

32 Posts
12/03
Posted - May 28 2004 : 2:44AM
I honestly can't tell if the one guy is just yanking Rick Lee's chain and succeeding or if he seriously believes that Asian-man.com is really AsianAmigo.vato and is really Rick Lee-Garcia, a latino porn star who wants to pass as Asian.
Portis28
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Posted - May 28 2004 : 3:11AM
Someone mentioned research and studies...if you look at the sample sizes, it's just very unconvincing. In a country of 260 million, presidential polls usually need at least 1000 random responses to get reasonably predictive results. Even then, polls are not close to being consistently accurate.

Now think about how many Asian men live on this planet. More than 2 billion Asian people live on Earth. If half of that are men, that leaves 1+ billion. Now how many of these are actually included in experiments and studies? 20? 50? 100? Add the small sample sizes together with the complete unrandomness of the samples and you have one seriously problematic study.

Anyways, that's it for me on this topic! Having grown up in an area that's culturally diverse and at least half Asian, where Asian men are successful in all facets of life including dating, sports and other "macho" activities, I never imagined that folks could actually buy this small penis stereotype until i went to school in the East coast. Man was i in for a shock!! Here i was, my whole life, thinking i had an average 6 incher and to be told that WOW you're big for an Asian....man it was hilarious!

Who knows. Maybe penis size is genetic and varies by race. For some strange unknown reason, Asian men are cursed with small dicks while white men are blessed with big ones. Maybe some Darwinian theory predicts that big dicks arent a positive evolutionary trait in Asian society and thus there was no evolutionary bias towards them while for whites and blacks, big dicks are evolutionary favored. Who knows.

Ramsey
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Posted - May 28 2004 : 3:50AM
kerrville: read DAC's post about Loni who worked with Rick Lee and already confirmed he's asian. What more proof do you want. Looks like you have a personal crusade against Rick Lee.
hog-train
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Posted - May 28 2004 : 10:23AM
The reason there are no Asian male porn stars is that:

1. There is no demand for them. The people who buy porn are mostly white males who are a huge majority of the population. Black people make up around 14% of the population while Asians are a much smaller percentage of the population (2%?) and there might still be a little "taboo" factor that white people get off on during interacial sex (Black-white)

2. Asian culture severely frowns upon a profession like porn.

scatman
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175 Posts
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Posted - May 28 2004 : 10:34AM
Fear of an Asian Planet!!!
Chico Wang
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Posted - May 28 2004 : 1:34PM
We may not overcome, but we will overwhelm. :)
Chico Wang
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775 Posts
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Posted - May 28 2004 : 2:19PM
I'm not sure what the demand is. In general, I think the average porner could care less as long as a guy slams the girl pretty hard. There are some people who do have niche preferences however; some white dudes jerk off to black guys nailing girls and that's their preference. With the current market, it seems they target a small segment of the audience. ATOM (Ass to Other Mouth), Cum Swapping, etc. But there is a little secret here. The Asian market can be tremendous, especially with credit card saavy markets in Japan, Korea, and certain parts of Asia.

I've been looking for Internet content utilizing an Asian guy. Not that it's a big deal, but there is a market that isn't being utilized and they have some big bucks. Potentially. I need an Asian guy for performance. If he's that good, I'll also shoot him for video after the initial fuck training. And I will show his face because that would be verified proof of his Asian-ness for these countries.

Don't make me perform.

Chico

Faceblaster
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Posted - May 28 2004 : 2:37PM
I have also known "Rick Lee" from Asian-man.com for years and he is asian. He is also a hell of a nice guy. I believe he has family in Venezuela and that may be why the paper trail leads there. There are tons of Asians in South America. There are Asian guys who speak Portugese as their first language at almost any Samba show you go to. Brazil has a huge population of Japanese, Chinese, and other groups from Asia.
Now for extra credit in anthropology, can you explain the large population of Jews in Mexico?
jaydee
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5/04
Posted - May 28 2004 : 5:07PM
hey chico wang, are u the same as wanker wang or is that a different person
Chico Wang
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Posted - May 28 2004 : 11:48PM
I am Sybil's worst nightmare.
jaydee
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Posted - May 29 2004 : 2:52AM
that didnt quite answer it well, who is sybil?
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 29 2004 : 10:36AM
The character, from the book/horror movie of the same name, who had multiple personalities.
tux
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32 Posts
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Posted - May 29 2004 : 2:36PM
Market demand?

look, there are more dwarves in US porn than there are Asian males. I'm sure that there are a lot fewer "little people" in the US than there are Asians. Of course, the little people could happen to be an unusually large part of the porn market and buy thousands of DVDs/year.

My suspicion is that Asian males are a disproportionate portion of the actual porn market for a variety of reasons.
One being that there is shame about being a porn star, but there is much less shame about actually having or watching sex in Asian culture. Besides there's the whole world market. Distribution isn't just the US.

I still say, there's fear that once the American public starts seeing that Asian men on average are better sexual performers, as in they do a better job satisfying the women they are with, it taps into longstanding fears that all their women will seek out Asian guys.


scatman
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175 Posts
4/04
Posted - May 29 2004 : 3:06PM
My prediction is that the yakuza will infiltrate the U.S. porn scene.
Inability to achieve erections will be punished with severed digits.
tux
Member

32 Posts
12/03
Posted - May 29 2004 : 3:15PM
It's not just about erections and size....
No one here seems to talk about who invented Tantric Sex or where the oldest examples of porn come from.

One of the differences between American and Asian cultural conceptions of excellence is that one is obsessed with the size and power of the equipment while the other emphasizes the skill and purity of the operator. Hence one culture invented the Action movie filled with explosions, high tech weapons, etc. The other created the martial arts movie with the lone spiritually pure hero who triumphs with bare hands, feet, and superior technique.

Asian martial arts movies have found a huge audience in the US. Asian-porn conceptualized in an Asian way with an Asian-male star might also find an audience.

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