I have been watching porno as long as I can remember just like a lot of you. There are so many good movies and exciting scenes that I have to buy about a dozen DVD's every week to keep up. Why is it that there is so little passionate lip-to-lip kissing in any of the videos? You have sloppy cunnilingus and wild eye-popping sword swallowers, but where's the kissing? Either it is too short, just a few pecks, or, for the most parts, nonexistent at all. Kissing is one of the best foreplays in lovemaking so can we please see more liplocks, tongue-fus, and lots of sloppy saliva-drooling erotic kissing. Just a minute of it will turn me on. What say you? I think this can be a great way to really improve the pleasures of watching great porn shows. Is there an unwritten rule that kissing is against the law? Neondon
It's my understanding that since kissing is considered a more intimate gesture than, say, plain sucking and fucking, many adult actresses prefer to avoid doing it professionally. Also, it seems that most directors (especially of gonzo videos) simply forget to include it, or believe that the predominantly male audiences prefer not to see it.
When it is dark enough, you can see the stars 456 Posts 2/03
Posted - May 18 2004 : 10:17PM
FYI
There is alot of kissing in our videos. Just pickup any title that has the "Justin Slayer productions" emblem and you will find that most of our movies include kissing. Hopefully this helps you find what you are looking for...however..I'm sure you will find more "gonzo" videos with kissing too.
I think certain male performers tend to kiss alot...some do not...and as mentioned before certain female performers find it too intimate. But what we have found is that when a certain connection is made between the male and female talent - most inhibitions go out the window! :)
I agree. I would like to see more kissing during a scene, especially during intercourse. Problem is, some of these guys don't know how to kiss a chick. Ever see Peter North try and mack on some girl. It's terrible. Usually if there is kissing in a scene it's a lot of tongue sword action, which just doesn't do it.
Bring on the closed mouth kiss, make us believe you are fucking your girlfriend, not a paid partner. Wouldn't this add to the "sexual chemistry" of a scene?
It's amazing how much smiling, kissing, and actually talking, adds to a scene.
Peter North doesn't seem like a bad kisser - at least he's not slapping or choking her. Maybe a lot of directors and male actors today don't even like females that much, or perhaps it's that herpes problem.
I totally agree. Kissing makes the scene seem more realistic for me. It feels less like the girl is just being paid to have sex with the guy.
For kissing scenes on the internet, check out Cum Fiesta's family of sites. They usually have a lot of kissing before the actual intercourse. I wish they would have more kissing throughout, though.
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Posted - May 19 2004 : 8:24AM
I've noticed that Slayer likes to liplock with his co-stars and it definitely adds to the scenes. He also goes body to body with women, which may not be great for the cameraman, but is a logical and intimate position. Sacrificing the visual to raise the heat works well for him. In the BTS for Slayer Unleashed 3 they discuss kissing with Jessica Darlin and she gives it a big thumbs up, saying it's all part of the sex act. Ultimately, I believe that Diesel's answer is the reason we don't see more passionate kissing. Performers are trying to separate the act of sex from the emotion of love and kissing is an act of love.
Neondon, you are a man after my own heart. At least someone misses the small things in life. I shoot a series called Real Couples here in England and am currently in Czech Republic having just finished shooting 3 awesome scenes for Real Couples (www.realcouples.co.uk). My observastion for the lack of kissing in a lot of productions is because this is an act that is considered too intimate. Yeah, I know it sounds strange. You can fuck a girl in the ass, pull it out and make her suck it and spunk down her throat- but please, don't kiss me. The great thing about Real Couples is that it has the variety in strengths of performances from the normal in out, shake it all about to the full on intense anal, and recently gaping anal action with couples who really love this level of intensity, and you can tell a lot from the way they kiss that they are real couples. I personally love shooting this series because of this passion going on.
I also like more kissing and caressing scenes before the sex act. Also, how about kissing during the intercourse? I don't see much of that and it seems to add a lot too.
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I think kissing in porn is a waste of time. Whenever I see it, I quickly FFRD it because its a great way for me to loose my woody. In real life, its different, but when I watch porn I wanna see the goods ASAP.
The first two above where in the main scenes, and Rocco just on a whim leaned in and kissed the two women. The third scene is from The Pussy is Not Enough #2, and is more typical - it's from the behind the scenes footage, shot during a break in the main action; it's Manuel Ferrara and a woman named Maxine.
I've seen plenty of kissing and flirting and foreplay in BTS footage, but for some reason, these are often missing from the main scenes. Either there wasn't any, or it got edited out. Maybe directors are playing to fans like Quiero Chingar, who they think don't want to be bothered by even 15 sec. of kissing?
I don't count the dueling tongue kind of kisses, that's just plain phony looking.
Though sometimes there's a cute moment in an otherwise hardcore film - like in Vince Vouyer's XXX Road Trip 4, there's a big group sex scene in the middle of the film. During the opening segment, Erik Everhard and Tera Joy are sitting next to each other; he's got his hand around her waist, he leans over and kisses her shoulder while she flirts with him, then she leans back and kisses him on the neck. From what I recall, those are the only kisses in the entire film.
P.S. Tony, don't tease us with those photos. Finish your film!
Kissing is such a perfect expression of desire, it's hard to believe anyone wouldn't want to see it or more of it in films.I think that the photos posted have more erotic charge than had they been of disembodied cocks in cunts. Genitals while fascinating, convey little expression.( Although gapes generally put me in mind of a surprised face.)
Kissing helps to create the illusion for me (or perhaps reinforce the reality as in Tony's pics) that the couple actually care something for each other. Passion and affection are a big personal turn on and something I like to see on film. The illusion doesn't have to be that they're in love, it can just be that they like each other, that would be enough.
Perhaps it's a technical hitch, you know, they kiss front on and for a split second we may miss out on the full spendour of the startlet's breasts... causing untold mental anguish and possibly, spontaneous combustion of viewers the world over...
I don't suppose any man has ever understood any woman since the beginning of things. You don't understand our imaginations, how wild our imaginations can be. H.G.Wells from Things To Come 1936
People like to talk about "good angles" in porn camera work. Some angles work better than others for kissing. There's no reason that showing kissing needs to replace seeing nice tits.
P.S. There are no "good angles" for cunt licking. The only way to "prove" that it's being done properely is through the reaction shots. Those who wish to become specialist in the creation of cunt licking porn would do well to study the 1953 classic "Shane". (How much would you give to see Alan Ladd sucking Jean Arthur's pussy?)
Kissing is fucking hot. Lesbo scenes have it right. Janine is my favorite fucking kisser. She even gave some tongue to Steven st. criux in a super softcore scene. That's why I can't wait for Janine to to boy girl. I can't wait for me to see that lovely pink tonguge in another guys mouth. Hot hot hot.
The hottes thing about lesbain porn is kissing and breast licks.
your quite right, there's not much kissing in porn, I know there are pecks and a short kiss, but nothing "long" and "erotic" However if you interested in lesbian kissing's (this is what i prefer) then check out viv Thomas productions
www.lezlovevideo.com do "exclusive" Viv Thomas stuff and they are absolutely Awesome!
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I remembered this topic when i was watching my new Simon Wolf movies.(Nothing Underneath 2, Juicy G-Spots, Young Stuff, Wet Teen Panties.) There is kissing in many scenes, i don't wanna say every, but that is also possible. And Joey Ray kisses more than other guys, many times during foreplay, and sometimes during fucking. Joey has 1 scene in Juicy G-Spots and Wet Teen Panties. And 2 in Nothing Underneath 2 and Young Stuff.
And that foreplay part is long i think, always, not just with Joey. They play some time with boobs, and long time with pussy. Blowjob is also long. Some guys worship boobs longer that others.
I wanna say this also... I think watching Simon Wolf movies is almost like watching real couples, because: 1, many guys in SW -movies are young or look young. (All guys are or look young in those 4 movies i mentioned.) 2, girls really seems to enjoy, they smile, giggle. 3, foreplay is always long before fucking. 4, no choking, all my 9 movies have been Choking free.
ps: okey, not every real couple has this kind of sex.
I was watching a scene with Ava Vincent where the guy kissed her neck. She got this BIG smile on her face, but did he keep on doing it? No, he moved on to something else. WTF? There's the real problem. Most guys aren't responding to their partner, they're just going down the checklist.
I the movie "F-Zone" had two scenes with kissing (nothing too long or involved), but they stuck in my head. One with Steven St. Croix and (forgive I don't know the woman's name) were kissing, and it caught my attention because it seemed really passionate and sexy.
In the same film Rebecca Lord and Peter North - not really kissing on the lips. I remember after all the sex North reached up and tried to kiss Lord on the mouth, but she turned her head and smiled - he ended up kissing her on cheek/neck area. I thought it was really sweet, but I wished she would have kissed him back.
There really wasn't anything special about these two scenes except the kiss/attempted kiss. Maybe I'm sappy, but I really like it when there are pats, touches and little kisses.
It just blows my mind how the porn world can be such an opposite of the real world. Imagine if in the real world, you tell a girl on the first date that kissing her may be too intimate at this point so you'd better start off with some anal action
if you like the real kissing, make sure to check out when something comes out with bobbi eden and me, we both cant stand snake kissing, so we always kiss for real whenever we can!!!!
I was lent a few JAV DVD's by a friend not so long ago. JAV by the way is asian porn. Anyway one of the titles was called 'Deep Kiss'.
I've never seen anything like it. Basically it a series of clips of amateur japanese girls who were at the beach. They are paid to come to a trailer parked by the beach and makeout. In most of the scenes they are wearing their bikinis, there's no nudity or sex, just deep kissing.
To put it bluntly it's fucking awesome! I dont know if american porn has jaded me but this was SO much hotter than watching some women getting analed etc on a sofa. The camera zooms in really close and you can hear and see everything in great detail. It's erotic to a level I didnt think you could catch on camera.
In a few scenes the girls were really, really shy. What happened then was another women came in and she looked and acted like a pro. This women sat each girl down and simply started to makeout with them, one at a time. Her hands were all over the girls tits, lots of groping and mild fingering through the womens panties. A lot of the girls seemed very submissive and watching them getting groped and felt up by this sexy women was amazing!
There was one scene where the amateur was really getting into it, she even pulled down the pro's dress and started to suck on her tits. This stuff is just amazing, most of the performers look like they are amateurs and the close up shots and fantastic.
I've also seen a few of the abbywinters lesbian dvds which features Australian teens kissing. Again this stuff is dynamite, watching two 18yr old girls going at it is hot as hell. They all seem to be well into it and there's not a pornstar in sight.
I cant see titles like these ever being made by mainstream USA companies. The joy of these titles is that they are amateur and the girls in them seem to be doing it for fun rather than being professional pornstars. Dont get me wrong I love USA gonzo porn but the shear level of erotisim of these titles blew me away.
The closest I have seen in mainstream porn is the great build up's in Jules Jordan videos, but these are 10 times better.
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Posted - Jun 30 2004 : 7:45PM
You are so right. I saw a few playboy videos a few months ago and I was really impressed with the kissing. However the sex was a little less impressive. Kind of a 50/50 thing.
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that kissing is intimate enough to cause "premature" excitement on the part of the male. Is it possible they don't kiss to prolong the intercourse?
I'm sure the heavy lipstick worn by most starlets also has something to do with it: IMO, I adore seeing a woman with her lipstick smeared, but most women are too uptight about their hair and make-up to get messed up.
Yes, heaven forbid that anything be allowed to happen that might actually excite the people having sex!"I don't feel uptight about getting nailed by a 12 inch dick in RCA with the camera about 18" from my twat, but don't you smear my god damn lipstick or muss my hair!"
Hmmmm. I suppose it could be true...
-T.C.
Edited by - TonyC on 7/5/2004 1:39:22 PM
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Posted - Jul 5 2004 : 4:36PM
Yeah there should be more french kissing in lesbo scenes,not enough,I love the lesbo asslicking too.
This one may have already been mentioned - but Belladonna's Evil Pink, while otherwise pretty average in my humble opinion, does have some nice long scenes of girl on girl kissing, with real passion. I remember cumming from just watching Belladonna kiss Avy Scott. Yum.
Edited by - experimentalguy on 7/5/2004 5:21:20 PM
In just about every shoot I do, the girl and I kiss.....I try to do shoots with girls I have chemistry with.....and hopefully they enjoy kissing.....I just love it....nothing like kissing a sweet girl for along time...then kissing her while my hands caress her breasts and eventually teasing her pussy and exploring it while kissing her.....mmmmm
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Posted - Jul 6 2004 : 12:53PM
Porn is not about lovemaking. This is the answer, IMO.
I know that there are people who enjoy seeing kissing and romance in porn and would like to see more of it, but I don't think they buy porn in vast quantities. They might if there were more to choose from, but then many of these people only watch porn occasionally.
It's just a shame *cough* that some very vocal people want to decide 'what porn is about' for everyone, and have little tolerance for opinions or tastes other than their own.
The thug is aware that loudness convinces sixty persons where reasoning convinces but one. -Mark Twain-
It seems alot of porn today is about degrading women, and degrading men by asking them to degrade women. I find nothing erotic about that at all.
I once had a lover who asked me to pull her hair and treat her roughly in bed.....I am a sporting guy and I was flattered she felt safe enough to let down her guard and share an intimate fantasy, so I wanted to be a good lover to her and do that, but the gentleman in me didn't allow me to get into it, it just crossed my wires.
The videos I shoot are just as explicit as the rest. Lots of foreplay, kissing, caressing, teasing.....lots of me kissinfg breasts but not getting to her nipples right away......belly button kisses and licks, me tongguing smooth mounds as a tease.....lots of slow seduction....LOTS or oral on the woman.....ok, TONS, lol...then the more explicit stuff..... with come spilling out of a womans mouth down my shaft after she makes me climax in it during oral, come spilling out of her pussy from intercourse, us breathing hard and the sounds of me as she makes me come like a freight train, you can see our bodies shake from orgasms, nothing fake at all about any of it.....lots of lying body to body next to eachother after coming, me caressing her......more sex often times......it is so sweet to watch the footage afterwards and see gentle caresses during foreplay and sex that you can tell are unscripted......this is how people who are really into eachother have erotic, steamy, yet classy and sweet explcit sex.....I know alot have dark fantasies about treating eachother poorly and that is why most modern gonzo rough stuff sells so well, but I would rather not make a cent in this business then treat anyone less then a saint, I sleep better that way.
Kissing is sooooo sensual......
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Posted - Jul 7 2004 : 8:04AM
Dumbblond, maybe it sounded like that, but I dont want to do that really. I hope there is place for every fetish, really. At the same time, I can really hardly immagine porn or any other film genre to be a true documentary of lovemaking. Lovemaking to me is too an intimate thing to be shown in public. I would guess - contrary to just fucking for fun or money - that it will be really hard to find people displaying that amount of intimacy for publication - unless they are filmed without their knowledge of course. Also to convey true believable lovemaking yo really need very good and trained actors. Just ask yourself how believable love and lovemaking in soap-opera is.
I agree that it's disappointing that there aren't many kissing scenes (and foreplay in general) in porn. But, of course, my opinion varies from case to case. Sometimes, I'm in the mood to see lots of foreplay (this also depends on how I feel about the girl); sometimes, I just want to go straight to the action. Sometimes I want to see a sexy blowjob; somtimes I want to see a nasty one with lots of gagging and spitting.
If you'd like to see some great foreplay, check out April Flowers and Randy West in Up and Cummers 71. There was a lot of kissing, and Randy caressing her ass while sucking her tits. It's one of my favorite scenes ever.
No problem Meinhagen. Although I rarely read or post in threads that I have no interest in, I actually agree with much of what you said. However I don't think that it's necessary to equate real lovemaking with kissing, and don't see it as being more intimate, I just find kissing hot, the same as any other sex act [insert favorite acronym here].
Hopefully kissing will become so rare that it will soon be considered a fetish, therefore warranting its own series ;)
HaHAHAHA the snake kissing,. LOL Well for sure we kiss for real,... MMMmMmMMmm Btw : I always kiss real I think , or they tell me ..: Don't mess up your make up!,. but I love kissing,...especially when its you Terri... *wink* kisses
Love/romantic/kissing scenes are the ultimate criterion in the classification of a performer as an actor, erotic/screen artist, sex-athlete/stuntman, or simply someone, who - for unknown, obscure reasons - happens to get screen-time.
I'm deeply kissing Steve Hooper in my movie Shove It Up My....which will be released in a few days on Aug. 2nd,'04. I'm deeply kissing Trent Tosoro in my movie DIRRTY-relaesed a few months ago;and I'm deeply kissing Mark Wood in my movie JUICY-released about three months ago......
xoxo Bridgette Kerkove
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Posted - Jul 28 2004 : 2:19AM
Kissing is a waste of fucking time, porno isnt supposed to be romantic. if i see kissing, i fast foreward. if there is a lot of kissing, i sell the porno to some punk kid
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