I can't recommend the third in the series as much, for what you are looking for.

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Edited by - lindi on 5/13/2004 6:04:43 PM

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Maybe that's your reality and your life, but I doubt they would film that. Do you have any positive suggestions for Rich?

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If anyone would do it, it would be Vivid or Jill Kelly, one of the couples companies.

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Rich, you might try some of the offerings at ideepthroat.com. It's amateur action. I haven't bought any of the DVDs, but I've seen at least one of the online movies and it feels authentic.

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I have rented many of the DR. Fellatio, Blowjob Fantasies, and Shut Up and Blow me series, and it’s all the same garbage…not real. I read where a lot of the older classic flicks from the 70’s and 80’s had the real one-on-one thing. I was hoping buffs out there might recommend some of the scenes or starlets from those films. Problem is, I also read that back then, the blowjob was only foreplay and not the reason for the scene…plus they threw in many threesomes and lesbian scenes.

I prefer avoiding subscribing to some internet download site and want to purchase/rent the DVD. There has to be some available, even if its only a few hundred scenes out of 100,000.

Thought I read where one of the reviewers here (Dreamweaver?) also preferred this type of scene. With all the review writers in Adultdvdtalk, someone must be out there with some good recommendations. I’m tired of wasting good money on junk.

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Edited by - hardware on 5/14/2004 9:53:43 PM

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The Private Afternoons of Pamela Mann --Metzger's first hardcore classic, with the most famous oral scene in porn history, Barbara Bourbon's deep throat of Marc Stevens. Although this film is cut up on DVD now, this scene should be still intact. From 1974. Note that Barbara uses her hand to finish him, before throating him again after he cums. Still a beautifully finished scene.

Barbara Broadcast --this is just a brief scene in Metzger's fourth hardcore classic, but worth mentioning. The great Susan McBain blows the waiter to completion. To see Susan's best scene, with a oral finish, try Anna Obsessed , with John Leslie in the office. After a furious cowgirl fuck sequence, John says "go get it baby," and Susan jumps off and strokes and sucks him to an explosive finish. Susan was one of the greatest sexual performers of all time. Just look in her eyes during the oral scene from Barbara Broadcast . So much passion (and maybe a little too much cocaine)!

Anyone But My Husband --I have mentioned this one in another thread, so check my comments there. Another legendary deep throat scene. The cum shot (which pours out of Laing's mouth at the end of the scene), might be faked.

Story of Joanna --Damiano's riskiest, seriously flawed, and yet maybe best film. Contains the most amazing nude dance sequence ever lensed (Terri Hall was once a member of the world famous Stuttgart Ballet). Terri blows three guys in succession, taking all the cum in her mouth, which periodically dribbles out as she moves from cock to cock. A bit hard to see because of the dark lighting, but still unique. This one will probably never see the light of day on DVD.

Little Girls Blue --This classic film, directed by a woman, contains several innovative oral scenes. Lori Blue does two blow jobs; the first taking the entire shot in her mouth, then letting it ooze down Carl Regal's cock onto his balls; for the second she uses her hands and mouth, showing his spurting cock a bit before putting it back in her mouth for a long clean-up. Both of these scenes were shot as fantasy sequences in the mind of her PE teacher, giving the whole thing a fun, erotic ambiance missing from so much porn, then and now. Cut to pieces on DVD, but Lori's scenes should still be there.

Do you Want to Be Loved? --Rene Bond in her last role; one of the greatest oral performers, although here the big scene has Angela Haze (from Baby Face ) doing an amazing deep throat no-hands suck off scene at the party.

Nightshift Nurses --I've discussed this one elsewhere on ADT also; this was John Leslie's directorial debut, from 1987. D.J. Cone gets such a huge load in her mouth it spills out all over the place. Great stuff.

Party Doll --one of DeRenzy's last great video features, from 1990. Kelly Royce does a internal mouth shot that dibbles out in the back of the limo.

The Animal in Me --Gina Valentino gets a mouth (and face) full of Peter North. I included this one because she does all the work (he wants to grab his cock, but she won't let him), and she keeps sucking .

These are just a handful of titles that I can mention not only as having the sort of scene you've requested, but as also being worth viewing on the whole. One completely forgotten grinder from the mid-70's that has an amazing sequence of this type was called Babydoll and starred Justina Lynn (sort of the original chica boom girl) in about her only lead role. In it, she appears in a foursome ending with her sucking off her partner. She takes the shot in her mouth, lets it spill out onto her chest, and then continues to pump on the guys cock while rubbing the cum into her breasts until the cum turns into foam on her; she whacks a second pop shot out of the guy within two minutes uncut (shades of Alberto Rey!); finally she lets the poor guy go and smiles sheepishly at the camera, sperm still dripping off her chin. All the while this has been going on, the film keeps doing this series of slow dissolves (ambitious film student stuff), while some meandering acid rock wah-wah guitar riff is playing over the whole scene. Typical 1970's porno. Well, kinda. I should also point out that the many famous loop series from this era have lots of these sort of cum shots in them; again, gone in the mists of time.

A couple of other things became apparent to me as I watched several of these scenes over (and rejected a few others that weren't as good as I had remembered them): first, the editing in these scenes (along with the inherent advantages of shooting on film) is generally superior to anything we see today; second, the success of most of the scenes was due to the fact that the women involved took charge of the action--great blowjobs depend on an active, aggressive female, and are often better with a passive male, holding on for dear life--female performers were older and more experienced in life and sex in those days as well. As most of us guys should know, older, more mature ladies (well, at least 21, for God's sake) usually give the best head. Today's porn depends far too much on passive adolescent girls used as human Kleenex. Sorry, but it takes two to tango.

Edited by - lazerus on 5/15/2004 9:23:59 AM

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My next question: Is a reputable business entity around with a stock of VHS master tapes, who will make up and sell a DVD copy? (I have converted over entirely to DVD.) Rumor has it an outfit named “Sureluck” does it, but I can’t find their URL. There must be others. Ideally, I would love to rent by mail, see if it’s a keeper, then pay to make up the DVD.

I did buy a recent DVD: “Inside Little Oral Annie”, and thought it would be a faithful copy of the original. I never viewed the original, but liked the way the review read. It was a complete ripoff: mostly her lesbian scenes, 3 ways, and no complete blowjobs.

The best I have viewed to date are VHS tapes by a filmmaker named Milton, who has since retired. They were just what I described in my original post. One day, they will be out on DVD.

CV, when I first checked your recommendation for the IDEEPTHROAT.COM site, I didn’t realize they sold DVDs. I’ll try one, and thanks for the lead. It makes me think the most sensuous, realistic BJ scenes to completion in the mouth are by husband/wife amateur companies. It must be very difficult for a regular commercial pornstar to blow some stranger that way with feeling...unless she is stoned.

This is a stupid hobby, isn't it, but if I’m going to be a collector, I’ll ask for the best advice I can get, from people who have viewed far more than me.

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Lazerus has done you right, of course. I wish I knew more to tell you. I may do some more searching, but for now, I have to go grab lunch for my wife and take it up to the gym where she works. *SIGH* Fun time's over. Gotta get packed for the big move to our new house next weekend. Only so much time you can spend thinking about blow jobs. Tragic, ain't it?

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It's shame you've eliminated VHS from your available video formats, because there are many "golden age" films not yet available on DVD which have the kinds of scenes you're looking for. As a rule of thumb, the films of Gerard Damiano and Henry Paris (Radley Metzger) both show a decided bias toward oral, and the films of Edwin Brown/Durrel (he used Brown first, Durrel later) also had some quality bjs (1001 Erotic Nights, Parts 1 and 2 have some nice scenes).

One really old one (1972) called "Teenage Fantasies" may still only be available on VHS, but it's noteworthy in that Rene Bond gives a/some faceless guy/s a complete blowjob between each scene! In one of them, she bets the viewer she can get the guy off within two minutes or something like that, and "comes" pretty close to hitting the mark!

On some of the older titles, you might want to check Excalibur -- they're doing DVD-Rs of some of the older titles in their catalog. Make sure your DVD player can handle DVD-Rs, though -- I've found some of Excalibur's to be pretty shaky in my own player.

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Edited by - TeaganPresley on 5/15/2004 10:39:19 PM

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I've been shooting a new series that completely focuses on oral sex and blowjobs. The series isn't about throat fucking. It's about hot girls who enjoy themselves. Each scene has a setup. The girls get the guys off and I try to avoid the typical jerking off that ends most oral scenes. The girls keep direct eye contact and talk nasty. Pop shots on beautiful tits, butts and of course faces. I try to avoid the typical pop shot.

The first one is about to hit the streets and finishing up the second one. Start shooting the third one very soon.

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Milton worked out of Denver; he sold a lot of amateur stuff to Odyssey and other distributors before marketing his own line via mail order. I agree his stuff was good; it was also copied by a lot of people during that period, 1990-94. Leena began her career working in Milton's videos. If you like his approach, I think you might find some of the other amateur stuff available on the net to you liking, such as ideepthroat.com. But it is hard going and expensive to dig through all that amateur crap looking for one moment of pornographic revelation, isn't it?

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All the other actresses in the film are on the late teen/early 20's age frame, and you just feel they're going through the motions with the BJ's, and doing what the director wants/cameraman needs. Not nearly the passion that Vicky shows in her segment.

Edited by - Renee on 5/16/2004 12:45:41 PM

Edited by - Renee on 5/16/2004 12:47:15 PM

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Speaking of which, I just posted a review of Vince Vouyer's XXX Road Trip 4 on Saturday, a movie that's been out for at least 6 months. Even though I only gave it 3.5 stars overall, it's been in the Price Search Top 50 since then. I wonder why?

Although there are some 'Human Kleenex' moments in the movie, there are some decent POV BJ's in it, too. Thankfully, Erik Everhard is in every scene.

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I have only viewed one Little Oral Annie flick. It was all lesbian, 3 way and 4 way. Strictly fast-forward for me. But I read she was the best cocksucker on film ever, and appeared to love cum. Can anyone suggest her better scenes, or better yet, a VHS or DVD with several or many such scenes? I may invest in a VHS/DVD converter. The price is within hailing distance, down below $500. I also read where “Inside Little Oral Annie” (the original) was almost all that type of scene, but with a few other actresses besides Annie. I also read Annie did a great one with Tom Byron in the original: “Hard to Swallow.” Can anyone confirm this before I buy?

For amateur stuff, I got really aroused with a few of Randy Detroit’s Headmaster Series, particularly volume #16, where he instructs a ditzy 20 year old just off the bus, average looking blonde, kneeling between his legs while he sits, how to suck dick. She stays down on him for a while before naively asking if he liked it. He says: “fine, but could you go down a lot further with no hands this time, and stroke both my nipples while you are doing it? See if you can fit it all in your mouth, and see how far down you can go.” It was both funny and erotic, particularly if you know how hung Detroit is. He actually sounded serious, and she sounded eager to learn. She complies of course, and eventually his cum is streaming out both sides of her mouth. But she never stops and continues to suck slowly until he has nothing left, and on his request, she spits a huge load of cum onto his dick, looks up, and coyly smiles at him. The whole video is P.O.V. I call that “real”, although Detroit has made a lot of junk as well.

For other worthwhile amateur stuff, Pantyfreek.com: “Girls Who Swallow (GWS) #3” has a great scene where a very well endowed guy wakes up with a large (real) hard on, and asks his bedpartner, Holly, for relief. She sucks slowly and gently, no hands, with him on his back, for 6 minutes with no breaks and no talk, unless her soft moaning is “talk”. She has him easily right to the hairline most times, much like Bobbi Bliss would, but without Bobbi’s phony acting. For the final 30 seconds, Holly knows he is near, gently grabs his balls, takes him deep, and stays deep. You see him spasm and see cum in her mouth as she looks at him. She takes the full load, swallows, and gives a lot of post cum head. For GWS #2, Miranda also takes a full mouthful, only due to her sucking. It’s a huge load, so huge the excess spills out on his dick, but she keeps sucking without stopping until it is all swallowed.

With today’s Hollywood BJ scenes, the gal is intentionally waiting until she knows the guy’s about to pop, so she can pull out for that dumb “moneyshot”. Who the hell does that in real life? It is mechanical and the viewer knows it. At least I do, and do a fast forward. But with some of the amateurs just described, the gal is intentionally doing her best to make the guy pop in her mouth. The viewer knows it, or at least believes it. That makes it highly erotic, even though she is only average looking. Her looks are very, very secondary.

Most experienced wives or girlfriends could produce a far better blowjob product than Hollywood. Another thing that pisses me off about Hollywood BJ flicks: in most scenes, the guy is so soft, it’s ridiculous. You know he spent his load elsewhere so he could last for this particular scene. Or this is his fifth scene in a row, and he manages little more than a dribble. Another thing that pisses me off is multiple partners or gangbang suckoffs. What normal guy wants sex (of any kind) with several other guys around, all jerking off? The best fantasy of all for most married men, or single guys with significant others, is a real life illicit session in a motel on a bed with one great broad. She can be young or older. Age doesn’t matter that much, within limits.

Good blowjobs are difficult to find and one must go through too many throwaways first. That’s why I’ll no longer buy or rent without a recommendation. Thanks to you guys, I’ll try a few classics for the first time. Hope I’m not disappointed.

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You bring up some very interesting and insightful points. As a matter of fact, this topic called to mind two specific women in my sexual past who were the embodiment of what we are discussing.

I think that it's safe to say that in real life, most women, even if they are okay with giving head, are at best, ambiguous about the completion aspect. Many will give wonderful blowjobs, but not want you to cum in their mouths. Many more find swallowing cum distasteful, if not revolting. And those that are down with facials are still a small minority. Most girls\women that I was intimate with fit one of those categories. Including the one that I married.

But I had two, that were so passionate and enthusiastic in the way they gave blowjobs that they almost made me get religion. One of them, I think it was because of her feelings towards me. The other one I think just approached it that way all the time, no matter who her partner was.

The key thing, that is germane to the discussion, is that when they felt me cumming, both of these women grabbed me and SUCKED HARDER. They made no attempt to leave, dodge, or otherwise avoid what was coming, in fact they seemed to really crave it. It was almost like they took a suction and kept it up completely throughout my orgasm. SUcked and gulped all the way through my spasms. I mean my dick didn't come out of their mouths until I was completely spent, and there was no cum to be seen. They'd swallowed it all. No retching, no gagging, no flooding cum back down into my crotch, no nothing. And they seemed to love it.

I almost passed out the first time one of them did that to me. Like I said, it was only two, of the thirty some that I've been with, but it's just as well that they just passed through my life. Cuz I don't think I could have functioned too well with them close at hand for long periods of time.

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But once one has had real blowjobs, like you eloquently describe, the little brain below our belts keeps thinking about it and we want it again, even if it was 10 long years ago. We know there are ladies out there good at it, and who possibly even love it. It may have been better for our careers and families that we never knew the real thing.

That’s why it baffles me that porn producers pass off junk on us and call it a blowjob scene. I think they get away with it because so few males know the difference.

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Rich Bungay, take up the suggestion about cum swallow wife. go to: http://www.oral-amber.com/ -this is the original cum swallow wife, oral Amber. There are lots of copies nowadays, using similar urls. For example: http://www.cumswallowwife.com -looks interesting, but probably just another stupid web porn site? But Amber is into slowly bringing off her quivering husband, and the cum just dribbles out, pretty hot stuff in most cases.

One of my all time facials was in Welcum To My Face (1990). Renee Fox never looked better, and although she doesn't quite keep it between her lips, she just lovingly milks that cock. It was mesmerizing the first time I watched it. That movie also has a good one by Racquel Darrian. But sadly, this was the beginning of the ubiquitous "let me jerk off toward your mouth..."

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As far as whether the cum shot in Nightshift Nurses is faked--possible, but I doubt it. Steve Henessey (the black stud in the scene) had a very healthy prostrate.

My exerience is that most women like to give head--at least most of the women I've had sex with. But they don't enjoy it because they want a mouthful of cum at the end. I think many of them enjoy it because it gives them control over their partner and his orgasm, a sense of power that is very erotic both to them, and in my case, for me. What is un-erotic about a lot of the fellatio I see in a lot of current gonzo is how it negates this female power; all the choking and gagging and "hold your mouth open while I cum in it" stuff seems to be a way for porn to subvert something very natural to fellatio: the suggestion of female control and male submission. Why contemporary porn has become so afraid of female pleasure, female power, and the subtle interplay between male-female status games during sex--this is not typical of most older porn--is for me one of the most troubling issues with the whole industry and the people who work within it today.

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I don't suppose any man has ever understood any woman since the beginning of things. You don't understand our imaginations, how wild our imaginations can be. H.G.Wells from Things To Come 1936

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Any recommendations on a good Little Oral Annie flick which showcases mainly her one-on-one blowjobs to completion that I love, with hopefully a bare minimum of lesbian and multiple partners scenes? Any out on DVD worthwhile? Or should I forget LOA altogether and concentrate on all the other recommendations.

Thank you one more time.

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You and I share the exact same tastes in BJ scenes! I love seeing the girls finish off with a closed-mouth oral cumshot.

However, i can enjoy a scene that doesn't have it if the girl is pretty and the rest of the sucking/licking is good.

I have seen many of the suggestions given here (classic movies and more recent stuff). They are all worthwhile.

I would reconsider, though, the www.oral-amber.com website. I think she does sell a compilation DVD so you wouldn't have to "join" to see things. Trust me, I have many of those scenes and the BJs are *exactly* the kind you are looking for. She finishes off her partner with her *mouth* (no dude jacking). And on several occasions, there are oral cumshots with the cum streaming out of her mouth as she keeps sucking. She's very cute also - (to boot!)

In addition to this, I'll recommend all four volumes of the mainstream series: "Papa Load's Blow Job Babes". There are no "clossd-mouth" oral cumshots. But all the finishes have the girls doing the work. Its also well-filmed and has great production values.

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