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marmac2768
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5/05
Posted - Aug 17 2005 : 11:11PM
I have a lot of videos from many different companies. One of the most useful "extras" on the DVD format is that a company can put a lot of trailers on the disk.

RLD, DVSX, Zero Tolerance and Platinum X have used this very well. I really like to be able to see the action before I purchase the movie.

However, several of the top companies would rather put a bunch of laimo shit on their "extras" such as photo galleries, interviews and other stuff that I couldn't give a shit about. Devils films only puts trailers on about Gangland and Teen Tryouts and they are very lame at that. Digital Sin is another one that doesn't do very well with their trailers.

I think that all of the porn companies ought to put more trailers on their disks.

BTW, I have noticed that RLD and Platinum X are reducing the numbers of trailers on their disks lately. C'mon guys! Trailers are a great way of advertising!

MarMac

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Posted - Aug 17 2005 : 11:21PM
I like good photo galleries, and I never watch the trailers.
croy
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Posted - Aug 17 2005 : 11:23PM
Everybody likes different extras. Some like photo galleries, some like BTS or interviews, some like trailers.
One problem I see is that everybody owns their own line. Or at least many directors do. Adding trailers beyond the director's own lines is advertising for somebody else. A person that might be seen as a competitor.
PL
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Posted - Aug 17 2005 : 11:58PM
And I can't be happier! I don't like trailers on the DVDs, they waste space. Let their website(s) serve as the trailer center.

If you like a TON of trailers, check out any Digital Playground DVD. I bet there's 20+ trailers on any given title.

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Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 12:05AM
Here's the thing about trailers - as soon as the movie's out they're obsolete. If and when I purchase the movie, then I have no use for the trailer and it's just taking up space. I say use the space for stuff that isn't available elsewhere.
 
Unicorn
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156 Posts
4/04
Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 12:17AM
Just a comment on trailers, John Leslie had the best - I remember many times not even making it to the feature - I was snoring before the trailers were over - and I mean that in a good way. He used to run 10-15 minutes of stuff from all of his series in front of the feature and it was enough , let me tell you.
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 3:38PM
Trailers are indeed a great form of advertising. However, they take up valuable space on the DVD that can be used for a longer movie, or other video extras.

By the way - as discussed many times in other threads, photo galleries and other non-video extras such as text pages take almost non-existent space on the disc.

IMO, I would think first priority should be given to a good quality movie, then extras pertaining to that movie, then a few trailers of the most recent or most important releases.

Cliche Guevara
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14 Posts
8/05
Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 4:13PM
I never look at Trailers nor do I look at Photo Galleries. I think Tricia is right...too many trailers take up too much space on the disc.
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Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 4:15PM
I can't remember the last time I watched a trailer, and would rather have a fun two minute interview rather than twenty minutes of trailers. Trailers are easily manipulated and I've often been a little disappointed by them.

If there's room for trailers on a DVD, I'd much rather the company put one entire bonus scene on the DVD so that I can get a real feel for the action in the movie (just so long as I don't see the same 3 bonus scenes wherever I turn with a company). The bonus scene should take far less effort than the trailer and it should give a much better feel for the movie. It's beyond me why more companies don't put a bonus scene or two on their DVDs if there's room there. With how little space they take up, I also think every company should include a cast listing by scene and filmographies for the girl. If you're really impressed by a girl in a movie, odds are you're going to want to see more of her. If a company lets you know who she is and what other movies they've done with her, I think they stand a very good chance of that person watching another of their movies.

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TheLoneGunman
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400 Posts
10/03
Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 4:21PM
I HATE photo galleries...the only time I find them useful is if they are on mainstream movies and they are behind-the-scenes shots (like the photo galleries on JAWS and SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE). Even then, they constitute one-time viewing only.

I don't mind a ton of trailers - as long as they aren't put on at the expense of behind the scenes footage or deleted scenes/bonus scenes. And as long as they aren't front-loaded onto the beginning of the movie.

CG_Gurl80
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Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 4:28PM
Totally in concurrence with what the beautiful Tricia said, especially in the last paragraph. I would much rather have a high quality vid with fun BTS and extras relevant to the actual movie than be inundated with trailers. Besides, most good trailers can be found on the internet these days, no need for them on DVD's IMHO.
Zoid
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Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 4:57PM
Oh for crying out loud, demanding trailers on DVDs??? You have Internet for this. Next thing people will ask for more phonesex commercials.
Cliche Guevara
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Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 5:04PM
Absolutely!
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Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 5:05PM
I'm in the minority here, but trailers are a very efficient commercial tool for me. The last 4 titles I've bought, I bought because of trailers seen on DVDs. Those 4 titles I would have totally overlooked were it not for the trailers, and that's now usually the 1st bonus I check on DVDs. I used to buy based on name (directors or stars) but you're easily caught in a loop with this method.
I suppose it could become unnecessary if all studios had a website with trailers, but that's not the case, and not everybody has the internet, so as long as there are not 20 trailers eating up space, and as long as I will be on a tight budget, I find it extremely useful.
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 5:36PM
We always try to add trailers of yet to be released movies on our disks, or of other titles in the same series. And of course plenty of clips on our website, we try to do a clip for everything in the monthly catalogue.

Jacco

 
M.B.
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Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 7:59PM
I think that every year or two companies should release a disc with nothing but trailers on it.
I think Private does this with their sampler discs, just a bunch of trailers with two or three full scenes on it as a bonus.
The one thing I've always wanted was a crapload of trailers from 70's and 80's NY grindhouse porn on one disc, nothing but trailers. The movies kind of sucked, but the traiers were highly entertaining, real campy and cultish.
Alpha Blue Archives releases these movies on dvd, I just wish they would release an entire disc of trailers.
they have a few comps of nothing but trailers on VHS, but nothing on dvd. I'm hoping they do it eventually but I'm not holding my breath.

Edited by - M.B. on 8/18/2005 7:59:28 PM

Kane
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7/05
Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 8:33PM
Count me in with those who like the trailers.

Whether we're talking about mainstream or porn, I think it's a valuable extra. I'll read reviews and peruse box covers, but getting a preview of the action, or a chance to see how all of the elements are handled (angles, lighting, locations, etc.) is a big, big plus. Especially in today's crowded market.

Then again, there can be too much of a good thing. I've seen RLD and Digital Playground discs with 20 plus trailers and the novelty wears off after a while. Wicked titles usually have 3, which never seemed like enough. I'd be happy with between 5 and 10 trailers if space permits.

Although the trailers are the first extra feature I watch, I really like the BTS footage. Digital Playground does a great job editing together entertaining, funny featurettes. I have an unusual predicament with my "porn poseur" girlfriend, which I'm sure I will eventually discuss on this board, but even she gets a kick out of their BTS footage.

Kane

Brandon Iron
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Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 8:38PM
I know a few directors at Platinum X and Red Light are talking about eliminating trailers altogether just because of 2257 regulations that may possibly require anyone on the trailers to be documented, too. What a nightmare...
picman
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Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 8:48PM
Wouldn't you already have their documentation by virtue of their appearance in the videos being previewed? Or is this about previewing other people's titles?
SpongeWorthy
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410 Posts
5/04
Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 9:36PM
I love alot of the BTS stuff, sometimes sadly, more than the actual movie itself. I wish a company would make a comp of their BTS and sell it. I would buy it.

I really don't pay attention to trailers on DVD's since I gather up all the info I need on the internet.

scipio
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Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 10:04PM
Actually, I don't have any use for stills galleries at all. I'm watching the dvd for a moving image, after all, right?

Though even BTS production photos on mainstream discs quickly bore me. Perhaps if I was there, the photos would have a meaning to them, but I wasn't and so most don't. The only exceptions would be if I'm trying to find details of props in a film like Aliens I'm glad I have them but then, that really never happens anyway.

Stills on a porn disc? As Zoid said (about trailers) I have the internet for that.


Trailers on the other hand, I do have a use for. While a bonus scene might be nice, spending perhaps 5 minutes on a quick 5 trailers is more useful as a marketing tool, because it lets me see the entire cast of <title>, and what they look like and how they're dressed in the movie.

Stills often do the opposite. Case in point: Manhammer 3. See the cover? See Lauren Phoenix dressed in nice black PVC/Fishnets/etc? Funny, but she wears a completely different outfit in her scene. A day-glo mesh top and so on.

I know I have better things to do with my time online than sit here downloading trailers for films I may be interested in, so I don't bother. Trailers on a disc, on the other hand, can interest you in something you might not have even considered downloading, though again, keeping them to a few over 5 minutes is the right ratio, more than that and you get bored easily.

Many times, "interviews" and "BTS footage" is worse than worthless. Do we care that the camera guy followed starlet x to the shower for 3 minutes?

Here's a snippet of my review for Truly Nice Tits 8: (the BTS bit)

Trailers would have been a better use of that disc space. For that matter, NOTHING would have been a better use of that disc space, as I wouldnt' have wasted 5 minutes of my life watching it and then writing about it.

So anyway, +1 for a few well-edited trailers in a short burst.

scipio

gypsy666
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99 Posts
8/05
Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 11:45PM
I love the BTS and bonus features. But the trailers are soo edited that I get annoyed and I dont watch the photo galleries at all. Red Light District has lots on their DVD'S.

Edited by - gypsy666 on 8/18/2005 11:45:46 PM

cv
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Posted - Aug 19 2005 : 12:22AM
The best thing on a porn DVD is red-hot sex and the best extra is even more red-hot sex.

The DVD extras that I enjoy are behind-the-scenes footage, bonus sex scenes (if they don't suck), and sometimes some of the tease stuff.

I really like the behind-the-scenes footage, especially when the girls talk and we can glean a bit about their personalities. With gonzo porn, it's often very difficult to get a feel for what these young women are like. (That's actually one reason I've taken a liking to some of the Shane's World stuff).

Trailers are a minor consideration since I can view these from the studio's website.

Photo galleries are nearly worthless. Still photography is just so dreary at NTSC resolution.

One feature I enjoy are the scene pairings slates; Jules Jordan does a nice job with this. Some other directors are pretty good at putting an on-screen graphic when a new girl's scene starts; Brandon, for example, does this.

Brandon Iron
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3/02
Posted - Aug 19 2005 : 3:54AM
Picman: Yes, we would have the documentation. It's just a burden to include ids, releases, and a DVD for every person who appears, however briefly, in the trailer. It is an administrative nightmare. Of course, this has not come to pass just yet. It's just what might happen in the very near future, depending on the outcome of court challenges to 2257 regulations. I am not an expert. I just listen to talk around the biz.
lazenby
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Posted - Aug 19 2005 : 6:24AM
Trailer are always good.
Buying porn can always be hit and miss.

For instance you could see a screen shot of your fav babe with a 12" cock up her ass and think that it will be a hot flick but when you actually watch the film your realise that the scene she features in is crap. However with trailers you get to see the intensity of the scene.

Just my 2 cents ;-)

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marmac2768
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5/05
Posted - Aug 20 2005 : 1:12AM

Many times, "interviews" and "BTS footage" is worse than worthless. Do we care that the camera guy followed starlet x to the shower for 3 minutes?

I feel the same way about BTS stuff. Some of it is rather amusing, but a lot of it really takes away from the eroticism of the video itself. They show the girls going from "moaning and groaning" as if they really are into the sex, to showing them acting like it is just a job . . . which we all know it is, but it really ought to be just that . . . left behind the scenes.

Very few times does the BTS extra add something to the video.

As for trailers taking up so much of the disk, if you put 10 trailers at an average of 2 minutes (while most trailers are about 90 seconds) you will add 20 minutes of good hot sex to a video.

For those who want a "bonus" scene or a longer video . . . the producers are in the business of making money and that would cost them in production costs and salaries, while trailers would give them a venue of advertising. I just like being able to see what the video looks like BEFORE I spend $20 bucks on a disk.

Kane
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7/05
Posted - Aug 20 2005 : 2:14AM
scipio wrote:
I agree. Before I found this forum, I wasn't even aware that trailers were readily available on the 'net, but many here have said that they're content with online trailers. Now I know, and I still haven't bothered to seek them out. Personally, I'd rather check out trailers on my 57 inch screen, not a 5 inch window on my PC.
Unfortunately, true. Some of them suck and I'm not only disappointed, I'm annoyed they bothered to include it and that I actually sat through it. I specifically named Digital Playground in an earlier post to give them credit for their great BTS featurettes. They have spoiled me. I got a kick out of watching Jesse Jane trying to unlock the nail puzzle in the BTS segment of Teagan: Erotique. I even bought one and put many of the girls I work with through the same test. :)

Kane

picman
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Posted - Aug 20 2005 : 7:45AM
Some BTS segments are crap for sure, but I've derived great pleasure from Steve Holmes' little jaunts. I like interviews and a sense of who these women really are and the BTS is a good place to derive that. If all their going to do is show the pretty girl shoot, then it's a waste. Anything more than four trailers is overkill. It's a good way for a director to display his most recent output.



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