I dont speak about BDSM-Movies. I speak about normal (porn) girls being in charge. Just imagine a female "Max HC". Why the guys are turned off by this? I'm only seeing girls being fucked hard, when they have the submissive part. 99.9999% of all straight porn is meant. Sure there are exceptions like the "power bitches" series but all in all very rare. Look, in reallife the girls are in charge very often, at least in my relationships. So why not in porn? I think because most men dislike it. BUT WHY? I dont get it...
I have no problem with women in charge , but I absolutely don't like anything similar to max' stuff that is not sex that is despice of persons that is mistreatment I like the idea a girl wants to guide the sex , actually the idea everything she's doing is for her pleasure is kinda arousing, but not max's stuff
Ok, it hasn't to be as rough as MAX HC Stuff (didn't see much of him, so this example is maybe displaced), but as Laurie wrote it would be nice watching a girl forcing a guy for her pleasure.
+1 Personaly I dont like BDSM etc, but I prefer a women in charge over a Man being in charge, if i had a choice to watch a film where either a) a bloke is in charge and being dominant to a women or b) a women being the dominant one over a man, I would choose b everytime, I hate rape bdsm etc, more so when its a guy that does it on a female becuase females are the ones to take care of and to be kind and gentle too, not hurt her {If you have't seen over 100 Big Boobs films, where have you been?}
Yeah, I'm really turned on by dominant women in real life, but not so interested in seeing it in film, and the reason is that it makes the male the center of attention, which I'm not so much interested in watching. But in theory I would prefer this. I guess it would have to be shot in a different perspective than I'm used to. I know some scenes in Joey Silvera's Service Animals are like that, but I have a hard time enjoying those scenes. But maybe that's a bit too BDSM. As for Max HC, he's a creep. I don't think there could be a female version. There shouldn't be a male version already.
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Posted - Jul 12 2007 : 3:28AM
I could get into an office scenario where the hot female boss coerces the guy into having sex. Really, any situation where the woman was the authority figure. Cop, teacher, psychiatrist etc.
I think that many male performers don't want to jeopardize their image. I mean... imagine Rocco being dominated... both men and women would look at him diffirently afterwards. It sounds kind of ridiculous though...
I know a study back ten years about who hires the services of dominatrixs; they turn out to be men and some women who had alot of authority over vast numbers of people. They were the CEO of fortune 500 companies in the most cases and many Hollywood studio heads. It seems that these people what to be dominanted for a change. Isn't life crazy sometimes!
Man I meant in charge of sex , I meant the girl chooses either positions , rhytm , act and so on , she chooses when she wants me down on her or if she wants to ride and so . Neither I like to be dominated by a woman or a man in any situation in my real life
I'd get off on that. I like, and have always liked the idea of being controlled by a female. (Since I was 5ish, when that fetish started.) If there were a female version of Max HC, I wouldn't only love to see it, but I would volunteer myself to be degraded anyway she saw fit to degrade me. The only downside would be it looks unnatural when the chick is normally submissive or quite, she has to be natural a take charge woman, can't fake that shit or it looks wrong. "When they're runnin' down my country, man, they're walkin' on the fightin' side of me."
I wouldn't mind being dominated by Lauren Phoenix! That would be fantastic! Yep, I'm all for assertive females in porn. I'd start buying new films again if this was the case.
I like it. I have a feeling that there are other men out there that like it as well, but maybe never experienced it since most women are shy to be in control and dominate. I love to have my women straddle my face and I feel dominated like she is forcing me to eat her pussy and nothing else. And my dick gets rock hard while this is happening.
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Posted - Jul 15 2007 : 1:03PM
I don't mind seeing women taking charge. I wouldn't enjoy watching them abuse the guys, but then I don't enjoy watching guys abuse the girls either. I think the most important thing is that the woman is in focus and has the leading role, because it's her I want to see.
I like it in the sex...like with Paola Rey rolling her hips hard and getting really into fucking the guy more than he fucks her. Another example is in Pigtails Round Asses 3 with Sandra Romain. She’s on all four getting fucked before she says he’s too tired to fuck her. So she has him back up into the corner of the couch and she backs her ass up into it saying “it’s better like this you fucking lazy guy”…”eat your fucking burger”. And she basically fucks him. That kind of domination is hot. But the domination of the girl walking on the guy with high heels, smacking him, having him kiss her boots doesn't turn me on as much. Don't get me wrong it doesn't "bother" me. I'm not offended by it or turned off, it's just not as hot to me. And in a way can be overdone because the focus moves to the guy and not to the girl. There is some female on male domination in the Service Animals series. And Brother Love gets kicked and punched in the balls ocassionally by a few girls in his POV series. Again not as hot as seeing more domination in actual sex in my opinion. I'd personally like to see more sexual energy from the women. See her slam the guy against a wall and start sucking and basically use him for sex. That's the domination I like.
Also verbal abuse from women is hot in my opinion. I enjoy the Kick Ass DVDs where the girl talks shit to the guys before sex. I find it funny and erotic at the same time. Grrl Power! is a great series known for that.
Precisely my thoughts exactly! Now if only some studio can be bothered to make some like this!
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Posted - Jul 17 2007 : 2:38AM
ofcourse most real men are turned off by this. most real men love for the babe to be submissive. like in Rocco's movies where he's banging babes from behind while they are on all fours and as he's banging from behind he's always got one of his feet stepping on her face while she's sucking his toe beyond belief. now that's what I call submissive. if that's not having a babe being submissive, I don't know what is!. most real men with balls of steel don't like to be bullied and bossed around and be manhandled.
I think you just answered your own question. Porn is fantasy material produced primarily for men. Porn isn't meant to be a reality show. Who wants a porn DVD with no sex?
Most real men are not that insecure with themselves in which they believe that by having a women be the dominant in sex makes them less of a man. I like to really bend my women over and be dominant, but at the same time I like her to be in control sometimes ordering me to eat her pussy while she sits on my face. Now I don't see your reasoning in how that makes me less of a "real man".
Dominant is not the same as S/M domination. If my girlfriend walks up and grabs my cock I don't think, "How dare she act dominant!?" I think, "WooHoo! Sex!!!!" lol
Then I think that it's not as nutural for women to be dominant, just like it's less natural for men to be submissive. I like the combination, the guy turns the girl on by being dominant, then the girl is getting dominant because she's turned on.
I know why I don't like it: feels unnatural. I'm a big man. It would take an absolutely huge and strong woman to dominate me. I don't think that type of woman would be physically attractive to me. It's natural for men to dominate women. It's the way it should be. If it were any different, it would mean that all the aggression had been bred out of men. I wouldn't allow that to happen to myself. You want to be bred into a submissive male, have at it.
You might want to read up on bonobo society. Females dominate the social order. While they act in concert to prevent male aggression against each other, this has not bred out male aggression. It has, however, meant that there is no reward for being the most aggressive male, so bonobos are less violent than chimpanzees.
This is true, in sex people tends to feel pleasure being the opposite of what they are in normal life; if they have a powerful rank in their works, they wants to be dominated in their sexual life. I see women as equals in my everyday life, and i prefer an equality relationship in sex too, but always being a little more dominant than the girl. And in movies i prefer to see submissive girls, i love them!!! Edited by - hardware on 7/18/2007 2:21:30 PM
If the lady in charge does anals and DP's with two or three guys. Then I would enjoy watching this kind of a scene. It would be nice to see an assertive lady in a standing DP spank the guys taking turns in her ass to make them bang her ass harder. Actually there is such a scene in 'Debauchery #12'. Four guys take turns DAPing Sandra Romain's ass. And during her DAP's she spanks and slaps the guys to make them DAP her ass harder. These obedient guys fly in and out of her ass like there is no tomorrow. They hold nothing back on her. Perhaps many female-dominant scenes are not very popular with porn-fans because the dominant lady prances around too much and doesn't get a lot of penetrations from the guys. When female dominance leads to less sex, then of course it's not something porn fans enjoy watching. But when the lady dominates and bullies the guys into banging her pussy and ass harder and faster, then I'm sure that this kind of female dominance would be very popular among porn fans.
The whole dominant/submissive dynamic is not explored enough in porn in my view. I like to see the roles switched throughout the scene, where the guy can be dominant for some of the scene and the girl for the rest of the scene. I've seen this occasionally in porn, I've mentioned in other threads that scenes with Jake Malone and Annette Schwarz is an example of where you can find this type of action. Joey Silvera also uses this technique in some of his scenes as well. I'm not really into the whole dominatrix thing with all the typical outfits and procedures, but it is appealing in a straight sex scene for the woman to be in control. I agree with the original post that most porn has the guy in control. As to the question of why, I guess the market dictates what people want to see, but I personally would like to see some titles explore this area a bit more, I'd definitely be interested in buying.