Anyway, I'll bring a few ideas to the answer. First, many girls take on too much of a workload getting into adult movies, especially in gonzo. To last for more than a few months in gonzo, a performer has to be attractive beyond the "fresh meat" criteria, and has to radiate sexuality on screen. I can't speak for Cameron Cain, because I never saw one of her scenes, but Kelly Kroft looked like a jailbait case, one of those girls whose novelty was that she looked way too young. Sex-wise, she never looked like she was enjoying it that much. Once she was in the industry for a while, she was no longer able to be hired as "fresh meat," and the pornographers moved on to the next girl off the bus.

And let's not forget that many girls just don't want to be in the business for an extended period of time. Their ambition is to shoot a few scenes, make some money, go home, and get on with their lives. It's as simple as that sometimes.

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Don't forget, in many case all cliches apply: They are on drugs, get forced into situations they don't like, do it anyway, get hurt. run home. Or the family finds out. Or they get pregnant. Or they get religion. Or they marry Manuel Ferrarra.

But oddly I'm noticing more girls like Tianna Lynn or Missy Monroe, Gia Paloma, Arianna Jollee, who are still banging away -- so it's not a lock, in that sense that every girl flees after 6 mos. But then in order to outlast the 6-month window of opportunity, you have to be able to transform and really be an intense performer And I think you have to love it -- that's probably the major difference right there.

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i dont do drugs. i dont even smoke.
i m disease-free and down-to-earth. and i know other girls like that . Sandra Romain, Katja Kassin are good examples.

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I just picked those names at random. I am not their daddy.

And, yeah, Melissa, I was thinking of the same girls. You don't have to be a cracked-out porn cliche to succeed ... 0bviously.

Edited by - skronker on 5/28/2005 7:48:56 PM

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also, mellissa's uncommonly-attractive for gonzo and that prevents her from getting shot-out and she's obviously totally demonic and unlikely to be affected by the same things most are.

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Why the Quick Burnout in Gonzo?

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Drugs quickly takes it's toll on their health and looks.

Double anal quickly takes it's toll on their bowels.

Knowing that someone as diabolical as Max Hardcore actually exists outside of B horror movies quickly takes it's toll on their faith (if they had any to begin with).

An everlastingly itchy crotch quickly takes it's toll on their nerves.

Cum shots accidentally blasted up their nose quickly takes it's toll on their sinuses.

A face coated in the jiz of ex-felons quickly takes it's toll on their psyche.

Living and/or sleeping with Dick Nasty sucks.

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Simple. As. That.

Most consumers just want something that will aid them in a quick release. They can't be bothered with pesky details. If the girls are attractive to them and the important stuff is captured clearly, they will most likely be satisfied.

I should know, I'm one of these people. I could really give a fuck which director recently mastered the simplistic art of a stairwell tease.

At least 85 - 95% of the participants in this daffy little business are there to make a quick, easy buck. And who can blame them, really. It's a financially lucrative profession and sodomizing barely legal chicks is far more rewarding than working with the mentally challenged or elderly.

You could probably count on one hand who is trying to elevate this business beyond mediocrity. For every Mason, there are a dozen Mike South's. And referring to them as "Mike South's" is probably being inordinately kind.

Edited by - - random - on 5/29/2005 4:06:11 AM

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sigh.

& y'know, porn seemed so much COOLER from there, too ... once you're in the heart of it you're forced to realize what an absolute crew of illiterate retards you're dealing with ... no longer doused in the excusatory patina of exotic flora & fauna, they just become a bunch of painfully obvious & mentally, aesthetically-challenged troglydytes ... you should hear all the junior-high school "brilliant" schemes they're coming up with imagining how to circumvent the tightening of the 2257 regs ....

Except for my FRIENDS, of course, like Zupko, I LUVZ all my "friends" ...

"Drinks for all my FRIENDS!!!!!"

(ref: Mickey Rourke posing as Henry Chinaski)

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Burnout is also a game series created by the UK games company Criterion Games, and involves the user to race through things like oncoming traffic, and recently (in Burnout 3) taking down the opposition (referred to as a takedown) to gain burnout points for extra boost to their car in order to win the race.

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I've worked in the music biz for almost 20 years and I've seen every new generation of young rock stars getting rich and famous banging away at the one chord on their guitar that they know, only to watch them nose-dive into drug addiction, alcoholism, disease, and bankruptcy, and then when their style gets stale or the Next Big Thing pushes them out of the spotlight they're already broke and living back home with their parents, or worse... the streets. Both are industries where fans are constantly craving the new thing every week, and a large percentage of musicians, from rock to rap, come and go eventually. Or the industry (both industries) unceremoniously spits them back out.

But naturally there are always the exceptions. Women like Melissa Lauren who appear to have their priorities straight and a clear head can probably continue to change and grow with the industry and take something substantial away from it for themselves whenever they chose to retire. There are a lot of people in the music biz who are there to make a lot of loot, get fucked, get famous, which no doubt applies to porn as well. But it will be the select group of young people who love the industry enough that can stay focused and make it last.

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But the girls are prettier at Max.

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My my, hey hey
Rock and roll is here to stay
It’s better to burn out
Than to fade away
My my, hey hey.

Out of the blue and into the black
They give you this, but you pay for that
And once you’re gone, you can never come back
When you’re out of the blue and into the black.

The king is gone but he’s not forgotten
This is the story of a johnny rotten
It’s better to burn out than it is to rust
The king is gone but he’s not forgotten.

Hey hey, my my
Rock and roll can never die
There’s more to the picture
Than meets the eye.
Hey hey, my my.

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And to youy basic wanker they wouldnt of cared in 1975

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It's not L.A. is without its, uh, "hip" side, but what passes for underground intellectuals & artists here are pretty much the equivalent of talk-but-not-do freshman art-school wannabes compared to the old East Coast days ... & we're talking about people in my advanced age bracket, not the 18-22 crowd who get some grace thanks to their youth!

Of course, it does come into play that I'm a jaded, cynical aging curmudgeon ... but hey, we need a place to drink without wanting to vomit on the "swinger" next to us, too!

Sorry to be a thread killer but I'm assuming this topic was just an excuse to get people talking, since the answer to it is so obvious & easily stated, certainly by the regulars here.

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I never see yuppies in there. Just blind dwarves, drunk Injuns, felons, rocker skank, junkies, the living dead and young chicks so hot they burn your eyeballs with the gleam off their navel piercings. I pumped $5 in the juke one time. I punched one song 17 times:

Motorhead, "Ace of Spades."

No one even blinked for the next 45 minutes.

I don't know how long it will hold out against the NYU onslaught. They did not respect Edgar Allan Poe. I doubt they will respect crippled dwarves and blind drunk Injuns. CBGB's? Buy your merchandise now. The men's room toliet belongs in the Smithsonian.

Cry! The beloved country!

OK, I at least mentioned drugs and skanks and navel piercings, so we are vaguely still on-topic.

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