And I'm not asking for a series devoted to 40 plus women, just maybe an occasional appearance, in an already established series.

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*shudders*

Did you do one too many "grateful granny's gangbang" movies when you were starting out, Brandon?

(Just kidding ... *falls on floor*)

Porn is all about fantasy.

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My "way of thinking" has allowed me the luxury of getting to do one movie a month at a great company. I get one shot a month to show what gets me off. I do everything in my power to make it count.

I get your point about Monica Belluci, Catherine Zeta Jones, Heather Locklear, Pam Anderson, Alyssa Milano, Nicole Kidman, Michelle Pfeifer etc....but the last time I checked, none of them did porn. My examples of cute younger actresses and celebrities like the Olson twins, Lindsay Lohan, and Hillary Duff would make my point equally valid.

RE: "Beauty doesnt have an expiration date....playing into pre conditioned stereotypes is very sad!"
-- It's not sad. It's the tint of the rose coloured glasses that I choose to wear. Try on a pair, my friend, and look at a few hot 20-somethings. They have curves on them sharper than the scoliosis backs of some MILFs.

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Edited by - lou sapphire on 6/28/2005 12:48:15 PM

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RE: "Beauty doesnt have an expiration date....playing into pre conditioned stereotypes is very sad!"
-- It's not sad. It's the tint of the rose coloured glasses that I choose to wear. Try on a pair, my friend, and look at a few hot 20-somethings. They have curves on them sharper than the scoliosis backs of some MILFs.

Again your making asumptions...im 34 and my girlfriends 22..im very aware of the curves of a 22 year old.
Scoliosis is something your born with..not something that comes with age.

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The obvious answer to the question, "What's more important the money or the craft?" in business terms is easy: the money. You need to earn the money to keep doing what you love. Otherwise, you wind up on the $0.99 heap. I make some movies that lose money out the door. That's not something I am proud of, but I know when I put out a big release that there is not a single thing more I could do to improve that movie. It's as good as I can do at that point in time.

Platinum X has been around for 2 years and change. I think the pressure should be put on the larger, more successful companies to up the ante from time to time. Where does Vivid stand with respect to MILFs? Wicked? Jill Kelly...oops, too late! See! Time's a wastin'! Let's fuck these women before the new 2257 regulations refuses to recognize carbon dating as a valid form of id.

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Brandon, you might be surprised how well our MILF (mostly women middle-aged) titles move.

Not to get into numbers, but MILF new releases come into stock often be sold just as quick as most Platinum titles or redlight. Especially Heatwave, Wildlife, and Devils titles.

If redlight is willing to go tranny with such titles as somethingextra, why not try a MILF style video?

Like I mentioned earlier, Devils Film makes several great titles now in this genre and they do extremely well.

Just a thought.....

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- massive swallowing (A GOOD SOURCE OF IRON)
- massive facials (BAKER'S DOZEN)
- foot fetish (TEN LITTLE PIGGIES)
- big natural breasts (PHOTOGRAPHIC MAMMARIES)
- travel and sex (INTENSITIES IN 10 CITIES)
- great butts (BELL BOTTOMS)

Enjoy!

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And yes Walter thank heaven for small mercies on the location of said images (details of which I'm happy to say are all kept properly, should the need arise for scrutiny) God I'l love to be scrutinised...

I do believe that Brandon should stick to his knitting.

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BTW why are all the guys at that site (Daddy Porn ! ) retired bikers ?! Is this the look women are going for in an older man ? I thought Sean (milkman) Connery was the ideal old geezer ?

Back to the thread ... I love me some older totty . And it's a mystery why the major US gonzo companies don't want to spin that record , especially as they're all poking the tranny market now-a-days . Clearly Brandon's a borderline pedo () so I can understand him not wanting to film/tape women older than the sum of their fingers and toes (excepting accident victims , I guess) , but surely not all the PXP/RLD folks are so "prejudiced" . Evil Angel too . Tiffany Mynx still gets work , so clearly they're not entirely against the idea of filming women capable of growing pubic hair . What gives ?

According to Ethan it's not that this stuff doesn't sell , so maybe it's just a fear from the cool kids that they could be making more money from shaven snatch instead of gambling on the crust .

Edited by - Lee O on 6/29/2005 4:14:54 AM

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Someone tell me Vicky Vette isn't hot for a 40 y.o. My observation is that older guys like younger girls & younger guys like older girls. Though I'm also older than Kylie but prefer MIlF's to the teens.

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As an aside, I have worked with Vicky Vette and yes she is extremely attractive.

Edited by - Brandon Iron on 6/29/2005 2:12:14 PM

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I understand both sides of this spectrum. It all comes down to preference. Brandon prefers to drive a brand new BMW with 150 to 200 miles on it and the interior still smelling fresh from the factory.
I'm one of those guys that likes those too but also likes to try to squeeze out just a few more miles on a 1980 Dodge Dart with a cracked radiator and no stereo.

Like I said before, I'll deal with the MILFS, the TEENS, the CHUBBY CHICKS, the MIDGETS and any other kind of woman that wants to bang me on camera for money!!!

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I would reccomend checking out oldschool101 and 102 as there is some anal action and group sex on them. Motherfucker101 and 102 is more interracial and POV style, and I am kinda partial to MILF POV because the idea was formulated by me and then given to Devils during a call where I exchanged some ideas as to what I believed would be a popular title.

Another good series is Milflessons; as the series has grown, especially vol3 which we just got in at Five Star DVD, it has vastly improved. Check some trailers for this series from there homepage at this link-

Milf Lessons

Mind you, I search/hunt for superior titles in this genre because I am quite the big fan and also because I have many customers inquiring about them.

If you need any reccomendations regarding such titles, email me directly at ethan@fivestardvd.com. I won't try to sell you anything other than suggest some titles that I believe to be of higher quality than the usual milf/older woman titles that the consumer has been forced to accept as the norm when in fact there are many terrific lines of this genre present on the market.

Take care!

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Insisting an entire industry/publisher change to fit a personal view of what is right is so . . . arthur.

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And Brandon, when your teens are milf's you might be an old man in a nursing home by then like the rest of us. Except they might start shooting you in all sorts of compromising postions like drooling your puree'd lamb roast.

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I don`t want to go back to my 9 to 5. As long as I can keep doing TEN LITTLE PIGGIES, I can surround myself with 6 to 7s.

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And I've never been able to get to the feet fetish. I prefer the anal genre plus its interesting watching how far it will go.

Edited by - Johnno on 6/30/2005 9:10:14 AM

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It will still sell when all posh Vivid flicks are gone and forgotten.

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Juha: If you enjoyed PHOTOGRAPHIC MAMMARIES #2, I am sure you will like MAMMARIES #4. Same style with some surprise endings like Haley's. Enjoy!

RE: big features/polished movies. I weaned myself off of that pseudo-porn years ago. I know a lot of couples prefer that style, but I don't see how it cannot be eclipsed by harder gonzo movies as time goes by. It simple lacks the heat, in my opinion. I believe people want to see more intimate interaction with the camera. The angles, camera work, and lighting on features is mostly counter to what I like to see.

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Sent you an email, Brandon.

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I think most people have good intentions when it comes to directing. It's just when you are faced with the financial realities of how much it costs that people, and companies, start to get weeded out.

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