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Killer John
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Posted - Nov 3 2015 : 8:42PM
We all know interracial is racist/discriminating word, then why do they use in porn movies?
Is there any reason for this?

Edited by - Killer John on Nov 3 2015

Jackie Treehorn
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Posted - Nov 3 2015 : 9:09PM
I don't see how the mere term interracial is racist or discriminating. It's simply a descriptor that helps point out content to the people that are looking for it.
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Posted - Nov 3 2015 : 9:43PM
Nearly every time someone starts their sentence with "We all know...", the rest of the sentence is usually a bunch of BS that almost no one really believes. This is no exception. There's nothing racist about the term "interracial".
shalalin
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Posted - Nov 3 2015 : 10:04PM
Oh my, Killer John had a random thought again that immediately materialized as a thread.
RobinWood
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Posted - Nov 3 2015 : 10:08PM
I don't know what the OP is referring to, but the way the term is used in porn absolutely IS racist.. In the porn world there are two races... black and not black. That's why an Asian or Latina model who was worked only with white men can announce their "first interracial" when they work with a black man. Even more stupidly, there's been discussion of black female models not working with black men because they don't have IR on their model card! Some people have complained about scenes with Keni Styles being labelled IR because he's not black. I'd love to see someone make some argument that none of that is racist.
 
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Posted - Nov 3 2015 : 10:33PM
^There's nothing racist about the word "interracial". If it upsets you to hear a bunch of idiots misusing the term, then perhaps you should just ignore them.
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Posted - Nov 3 2015 : 10:45PM
"Interracial" is a marketing term in porn and, in case you hadn't noticed, ad men misuse words all the time.
Since the producers of porn are already considered socially incorrect, being politically, or racially incorrect in order to attract attention isn't likely to cost them any sleep.
RobinWood
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Posted - Nov 3 2015 : 10:46PM
There's nothing racist about the word "interracial", what's racist is how it's defined in the porn world. It has a different definition in the real world.
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Posted - Nov 3 2015 : 10:51PM
To use the term "interracial" is no more racist than to merely acknowledge race is. Which is ironic, because in order to call something racist, you inherently must acknowledge race.
Methinks you may have been reading too many sanctimonious Tumblerina posts.
In porn, the label "interracial" has a perfectly fine purpose. It helps consumers find what they want. Unless you are against interracial, you should at least tolerate this. You aren't against interracial sex or private consensual behavior which way or may not result in miscegenation, are you?
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Posted - Nov 4 2015 : 2:53AM
No, we don't "all know". Please don't be so presumptuous in stating we have the same line of thinking as you with things like this.
Interracial porn in itself isn't racist nor is using the word "interracial" as it describes the fact that there is miscegenation occurring albeit almost only in reference to a couple/group with black and white participants. It doesn't suggest race X is inherently superior to race Y or race Z, which is the basis of racism.
Discrimination in itself isn't a bad thing. Discrimination allows employers to choose who they consider the best job applicant based on their aptitude and attitude. In the movies, discriminating between the colours of the wires allows the hero to defuse the bomb. I think you've been caught up in too much of this PC nonsense thinking certain acts or words are bad, no matter what the context is.
I unreservedly concede that interracial porn is all too frequently marketed and portrayed based on racial stereotypes but the use of the word is "interracial" is not racist.
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Nov 4 2015 : 3:27AM
The word isn't racist, it's just stupid. As has already been stated, it's use in porn is way too narrow considering what the actual word means, but it's become so ingrained into porn culture that it's now a keyword, so producers will use it even if they don't necessarily want to, as it is what people are typing in to search for that specific type of content.
Dan
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Posted - Nov 4 2015 : 5:36AM
^
The word 'interracial' in porn means that black guys nail white women. And I'd say that it's a bit racist to avoid saying the word 'black', when this is the truth.
Because people usually avoid saying the obvious, when it's something they are ashamed of and embarrassed about. It's like there is something wrong with the guy being black, and you should pretend that you don't see his skin color, even though it's obviously there in front of you.

Edited by - Dan on 11/4/2015 5:51:51 AM

DiamondJackman
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Posted - Nov 4 2015 : 10:04AM
This is the reason why I hate U.S. culture, this is the beast that it created.
It's so much easier to avoid controversy, it rolls of the tongue better.

Edited by - Diamondjackman on 11/4/2015 10:05:56 AM

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The answer to nearly every "why" question about porn is $$$.
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Posted - Nov 4 2015 : 1:49PM
It doesn't have to be shame or embarrassment why people don't refer to race. They might notice that they're of different races but find it not worth mentioning as miscegenation is not the underlying theme.
There was a Naughty America scene from years ago that happened to be interracial but it wasn't marketed as such because the underlying theme was "students" having fun with each other, not the fact the dude was black and the woman was white.
 
Melvyn
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Posted - Nov 4 2015 : 3:31PM
"The word 'interracial' in porn means that black guys nail white women."
For the record, this is wrong. White guys nailing black women is also categorized as interracial. Why do people ignore this? It seems willful at this point.
I get it. In IR, black females with white men is not as popular, but just because it isn't as popular doesn't mean it doesn't exist or it "doesn't count" as IR.
The fact that the harpies who criticize this categorization only focus on the one type of IR pretty much tells you why the label exists, and why black male with white female is so much more popular. Even the hysterical liberals who complain about it seem to only focus on black males with whit females.
So who really has the problem here? It isn't the industry.
I see this fallacy all too often cropping up. Usually some ex-porn star criticizing the industry and trying to grandstand and exploit a non-issue to feel elevated and relevant on a platform which in reality is trumped up and shaky. They always seem to ignore black women with white men which is also categorized as IR. So again we have to ask, who exactly is ignoring who and who has the problem?
Let people be entitled to what they like. You can't make everyone suddenly adhere to liking every flavor of ice cream equally, and people aren't wrong for having preferences.
Edited by - Melvyn on 11/4/2015 3:32:47 PM
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Nov 4 2015 : 3:55PM
^
And in all that, you technically still got it wrong, since the term interracial is technically when a woman of any race has a scene with a black man, or a black woman has sex with a white man (It would probably still get labelled as interracial if she had sex with a guy that wasn't white but wasn't black, but that's a scene that almost never happens nowadays). The whole problem with the word and it's use in porn is that it breaks races down into basically "black" and "not black", when there's more than 2 different races out there.
Edit: The problem isn't in having preferences, IMO. You like black on white porn in any variety, that's perfectly fine. For me, if I were to say there was a problem with the word, it's that it basically sections off black performers (male or female) from everyone else. Asian woman and Latin male? Not interracial. And knowing what the word actually means, that doesn't make any sense.
Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 11/4/2015 3:59:18 PM
Melvyn
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Posted - Nov 4 2015 : 4:47PM
^ I have what wrong now? Nothing you just posted conflicts with anything I said. I was only pointing out the straw man argument in which critics keep saying that per industry policy, only black men with white women is considered IR. And you already know that's false.
That the real definition of interracial ought to apply to intermixing of all/any races does not make their straw man suddenly valid.
You're underscoring the precise irony here which I just laid out as well. Even though Latin male with Asian woman should qualify as IR, that argument virtually never comes up. It's almost invariably arguments complaining about black men with white women. We see this ad nauseum.
And what's up with the lack of Asian male talent? Isn't this outrageous and discriminatory? Why is no one sticking up for them?
Look, we need to stop talking past one another when we agree on the basics. We both know what interracial really is. We both know what it means in the industry. We both would agree that it ought to apply to all and any combinations of races.
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This....
Edited by - Diamondjackman on 11/4/2015 5:28:44 PM
yourmomma
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Posted - Nov 4 2015 : 7:47PM
why do they put the term "anal" in movies?
it's a descriptor.
What exactly, about "interracial" is racist? Acknowledging race exists is not racist.
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^It were as simple a matter as the industry wanting to acknowledge race, then all of the scenes between Hispanics and whites would also be labeled "interracial."
Dan
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Posted - Nov 6 2015 : 7:45AM
"Anal" is very important for anal porn-fans. Because that's the kind of porn-sex they are looking for, and they need to know if the film is anal or not.
And the racist thing about the word ''interracial' is in the way it's used. Because this word is used to erase the word 'black'.
When Asian women have sex with white guys. Then the word 'Asian' is used front and center on the cover. Nobody calls it Interracial porn. But when it's black guys nailing white women, then the word 'black' is blotted out and the word 'Interracial' is used instead.
I don't think being Asian, or Black, or White is something for people to be proud about. But it shouldn't be something to be embarrassed about either. Because any kind of embarrassment about it makes people feel unwelcome.
When it's controversial to be black, then this is racist. Because this means that black people aren't fully welcome or accepted.
Edited by - Dan on 11/6/2015 8:13:21 AM
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Posted - Nov 6 2015 : 12:25PM
It's like a warning for those who despise the interaction between the races.
it's used because we are still living in a cowboys and indians type of world.
yourmomma
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Posted - Nov 6 2015 : 12:48PM
I think you are reading into it too much, I still see porn that includes the word black (and not just black/black porn) so I'm not sure they are avoiding saying "black"
Edited by - yourmomma on 11/6/2015 12:52:37 PM
yourmomma
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Posted - Nov 6 2015 : 12:51PM
that, i do agree with and is a constant pet peeve of mine
mentioned here by Skin....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVRlicZX1N0
 
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Posted - Nov 6 2015 : 3:54PM
Because we never got over our history of slavery, racist/sexist oppression, and accompanying miscegenation taboo/fetish.
Jackie Treehorn
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Posted - Nov 6 2015 : 6:34PM
A warning to those who might not want to see it? I find it it naive to believe that so many porn studios are concerned with warning potential customers with cash in hand, that they may not enjoy their product. It's far more plausible that they label stuff IR because there is a consumer base that wants that product and actively seeks it out.
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Posted - Nov 6 2015 : 7:50PM
And believe that there are so many who would be pissed off if they put the flick on and saw a Black man sexing a White woman.
They might set out to shut the studio down or burn it down.
There are warnings on cigerettes that the product may cause cancer and kill you. why would they warn potential customers of the risk ?
because today, they would get attacked with lawsuits or worst if they didn't
Think about what i'm saying.
We live in a world where it's very much White over every other race. White is standard and White is where the real power is. This is fact, this is truth.
Edited by - sgtsausage on 11/6/2015 7:50:54 PM
Jackie Treehorn
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Posted - Nov 6 2015 : 8:36PM
Ummm no. Cigs have a warning on the label because they are legally required to. Porn isn't about marketing with nuance and ambiguity, It's very much about bluntly announcing what it delivers. Just look at some dvd releases from this week alone
It's Huge And In My Ass 2
Russian Girls Love Cock (I guess they warn off those people worried about the Red Menace)
Big Hairy Clits 10
Shemale Ass Fuckers
8th Street Latinas 36 (must be racist)
Courtney Cummz Goo Gobblers
There's A Black In My Crack
Filthy Gang Bangs 3
Stepdaddys Butthole Buffet
ATK Scary Hairy 35
Tease My Ass & Fuck My Pussy
Selfie Masturbation Videos 4
I Came Inside My Sister 3
Gangsta Gloryholes 3 (closest to actually being kind of racist. But it's put out by Dogfart and I don't think the guys at dogfart hate blacks)
Tight Sweet Teen Pussy 10
Glory Hole Loads 9
Big Wet Interracial Asses
MILF Squirt
You would have to ignore a ton of porn content in order to think that somehow this practice of in you face marketing, is somehow special to IR.
SgtSausage
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Posted - Nov 6 2015 : 8:43PM
ok
Dan
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Posted - Nov 7 2015 : 11:41AM
The word "black" is commonly used only when both the men and the women are black. And that's because using the word 'Interracial' wouldn't make any sense there at all. There isn't any other word for this situation, and that's why you see the word 'black'.
But even in this sense, the use of the word 'black' might be racist. Because when you have an all-white cast in a porn-film, then you never see the word 'white' in there. Race isn't mentioned for all-white films. But race is usually mentioned for all-black films. Which again is an unequal attitude towards different races.

Edited by - Dan on 11/7/2015 11:42:24 AM

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Posted - Nov 7 2015 : 12:27PM
Never thought of that as being an issue. Seems like people seek issues. Like if that was the number one priority when it comes to porn. Porn deserves better than that.
Dan
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Posted - Nov 7 2015 : 12:42PM
^
Race is an issue in porn, because black people make up about 14% of the US population, but they are a much smaller minority among American porn stars, especially when it comes to black women.
It's a question of equal opportunity for people of all races. And it's an issue in porn as much as anywhere else.
Just because bias and discrimination exists doesn't mean that it's okay and we should leave it as it is, without even saying anything about it. The least people can do is say something about it. So that everybody at least considers whether what they are doing is fair or not.
The hardest mistake to correct is one that you aren't even aware of.
Edited by - Dan on 11/7/2015 12:44:16 PM
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Posted - Nov 7 2015 : 1:00PM
This very much used term "interracial" all of a suddden seems to break new grounds.
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Posted - Nov 7 2015 : 3:05PM
^ Not "new ground" at all.
Here's an interesting thread about IR (from back when we had actual discussions):
What does IR mean to you?
 
JigglyBoobs
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Posted - Nov 8 2015 : 3:36AM
That's a fair point. Even outside of porn, you see that crap when race is only mentioned if the person in question is not white.
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Posted - Nov 8 2015 : 11:12PM
Is posting links to youtube interviews allowed ?
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Posted - Nov 8 2015 : 11:26PM
^Yes.
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Thanks
This Interview of Lisa Ann is interesting
https://youtu.be/F16-5OKQElw
This interview of Roxy Renolds confirms some of what i was saying
https://youtu.be/aTTW6nfEUnI
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Posted - Nov 9 2015 : 6:23PM
For an European this is a very strange US debate and practice. All using of words related to race is here (at least in the countries I know best) seen as horrific after the Nazi experience. Thus for many Europeans the only ones that would use words like interracial are seen as Nazis and/or racists.
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