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GaySatyr
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Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 1:24PM
From my post in another thread:
If someone doesn't want to do interracial, they don't want to do interracial -- it's his/her prerogative -- it's NOT the viewer's right to dictate otherwise -- and whether the performer is racist or not is irrelevant.

~ GaySatyr (ABB)

Lance
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Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 1:39PM
This is why I'm glad I live in Canada. A black and white are different "colours" not different races. Get over the political correctness, evole and move on. Your American or your not, your Irish or your not.
That said no political correctness can overide a persons right to decide who they invite sexually into thier space. Whatever the reason.

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Edited by - lance on 12/7/2005 1:41:48 PM

Sheldon
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Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 10:01PM
No, Flesheater, I DON'T know that most IR fans have a double standard vis-a-vis black women who refuse IR versus white women who refuse IR.

I've been in or around the business since 1990, and I've found the upset factor to be the same. In general, however, the cases of black women refusing IR are extremely rare, so it gets talked about less.

On an abstract First Amendment level, yes, talent has a right to lie about their preferences. But workplace discrimination is not abstract. It's the women who dictate casting choices. If a woman is racist, then an entire group of men don't get work due to her say-so.

If the powers that be in the industry really were as upset about this situation as I was, this practice would have stopped, like, yesterday. For example, 90's porn performer Jordan Lee refused to work with both black AND Jewish men (and wore a swastika tattoo on the insole of her left foot). The predominantly Jewish industry quickly blackballed her, which resulted in great PR for the industry in media outlets like the Dallas Morning Star newspaper.

When the knife of bigotry is pointed at your OWN throat, what must be done is immediately and instinctively understood. Louder voices need to be manifested by the fans to urge that that lesson should be applied to ALL the ethnic groups that toil in the industry. Otherwise, as this industry becomes more mainstream, such practices will attract the hostile attention of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

Edited by - Sheldon on 12/7/2005 10:04:09 PM

flesheater
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Posted - Dec 8 2005 : 12:17AM
Oh well, I guess I gave you too much credit there. As for civil rights advocates attacking porn, I honestly don't think even Al Sharpton would be desperate enough to make the 'plight' of black porn actors into a national issue!
 
Master Bates
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Posted - Dec 8 2005 : 10:55PM
Sorry to go a bit off topic

Dude, whereabouts in Toronto are you from? That is not representative of Toronto at all. Either that or you are hanging around the wrong spots.

reddrose
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Posted - Dec 8 2005 : 11:00PM
The reasons I hear most of my girls that do not perform Interracial scenes is mostly heresay from other people either in the business or friends that tell them it will hinder there career or longevity etc. were other girls its merely a personal preferance but I never make them feel they need to do it but there is alot of Interracial work out there to be had!
KatjaKassin
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Posted - Dec 9 2005 : 1:38AM
Maybe you can bring me up as a positive example next time when you hear a girl say that Rose. I'm in the business 3 years and I can't say that filming IR scenes hurt my career. I would say the opposite happend to me, I'm very happy I did everything I do now right from the very start. I never made a difference between people because of their skin color.
anal aficionado
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Posted - Dec 9 2005 : 1:48AM
You also grew up in a country that isn't plagued by racial discrimination to the extent America is.

Edited by - anal aficionado on 12/9/2005 1:49:33 AM

Kamp
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Posted - Dec 9 2005 : 4:17AM
Why would they?
cross
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Posted - Dec 9 2005 : 7:06AM
cos they don't want to
KatjaKassin
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Posted - Dec 9 2005 : 11:17PM
Are you sure that's your final statement about Germany? Let's ask all the people that lost a dear friend or family member in that great country because they were Jewish, Polish, foreign, communist, homosexual, mentally or physically handicapped, not compatible, too smart or simply different enough.
bigdick
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Posted - Dec 10 2005 : 9:32AM
Katja! Thansk for the little history lesson. Some folk always run their mouth without the benifit of their brains. BTY! You're beautiful.
AztecGold11
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Posted - Dec 10 2005 : 2:18PM
Al Sharpton is stupid enough to do just that!! Wait for it.
buffi
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Posted - Dec 10 2005 : 2:44PM
I can't read German but I know Katja and I'll believe what she said, don't post that here.

Edited by - bono-ONE on 12/10/2005 4:57:12 PM

 
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Posted - Dec 10 2005 : 3:07PM
Why are the funniest things in the forum always directed at Katja? Maybe you didn't know she's from Germany, but this is too good an example of people arguing on the internet for the sake of arguing.

I would think people would care more about the fact that the porn industry labels movies by race rather than the actions of specific stars. What if Hollywood labeled movies as Black Drama, Asian Comedy, Latin Action, etc.? Harping on a few individuals does nothing to deal with the much larger issue. Categorizing performers, movies and sexual preference by race or ancestry seems pretty crazy, especially since we're all pretty mixed these days.

KatjaKassin
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Posted - Dec 10 2005 : 4:38PM

Mods you should delete that. It;s a very racial insult.

I'm gonna take a break from ADT now. I think that I don't deserve this kind of stuff and I don't know why I've been getting tons of shit here on ADT lately. Everybody here at ADT that is my friend knows how to get in touch with me. Thanks for everybody that has been nice in the last 3 years but I have better things to do than ti ruin my day reading things like that.


Edited by - katjakassin on 12/10/2005 4:44:02 PM


Katja please accept my apology for this person. I can't read German but you're my friend so I'm sorry this offended you and I hope you'll still post on ADT when you can.

Edited by - bono-ONE on 12/10/2005 4:58:09 PM

Kperv
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Posted - Dec 10 2005 : 4:54PM
I'm sorry you feel the need to back away, Katja. I can't blame you though.
What that buffi character wrote was the most disgusting tirade I've read on ADT. Instant deactivation material.

I hope you decide to come back again, Katja.

morbidthoughts All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 10 2005 : 4:55PM
A person must be really stupid if they think they can insult someone behind another language when there are so many translators out there.
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Posted - Dec 10 2005 : 5:08PM
Katja, my apologies. That guy should have been banned a long time ago. It's getting harder to keep track of the assholes.
Walter Burns
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Posted - Dec 11 2005 : 2:37PM
But Steph, this has more or less been done by 'Hollywood' all throughout the 30s and 40s and again in the 70s.





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gia jordan
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Posted - Dec 11 2005 : 2:49PM
Katja, please come back! I've only met you in person once, but it was the same Katja I've come to know here. Intelligent, whip smart, outspoken, true, and a model for our industry. I understand where you're coming from. I was once deeply insulted here and nearly a victim of identi-theft because of some ignorant piece of shit. But fuck that guy. I'm here. Please don't go.
Smotherama
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Posted - Dec 11 2005 : 3:04PM
Well said Gia
francios
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Posted - Dec 11 2005 : 4:13PM
Katja, you need to stay, there are more of us that agree with you than the few that insult you.
BrunetteFan
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Posted - Dec 13 2005 : 4:44AM
I think it's funny that people cry racism when a girl won't have sex with a black guy. It's stupid. I actually respect girls that won't do IR more for having standards of who they will work with. Kudos to them. I wish there were more girls out there that didn't do IR. People need to realize that not all girls are attracted to black men. I think most girls in porn these days do IR to capitalize on the way too oversaturated market since the rap/ hip hop has hit white america and a lot of white people seem to be fascinated by IR cause of this in my opinon.

I think the porn industry is one of the most racist things out there. It's a different kind of rasicm, it's not filled by hate, but it's still racist. I see the titles of ethnic lines like "Me Luv You Long Time", "Chick & Salsa" that appear to play into and exploit the sterotypes of different cultures. Movies called "Chimmi Chonga Cum Chuggers" and "Sack the Wetback" ect. and similar titles definately play into the racial sterotypes. Where's the out cry there? I saw one movie called "Black Girl Want a Cracker". That's flat out racist! If it were the other way around with the N word in a title, a lot of people would be up in arms and crying racism. It's hypocrital and one sided!

Racism doesn't bother me at all. I could care less if someone is racist. What bothers me is the one sidedness of a lot of people who only see things in one light and don't look at the whole picture. There are a lot of black men (not just in porn) who will only have sex with white women. Is that not racist? It's reverse racism. But you never hear the outcry from the racism activists over stuff like this.
I personally don't like IR (black on white) and I will actually go out of the way to make sure I don't purchase movies with black on white scenes(both BM on WF or WM on BF) since it doesn't appeal to my personal taste.

In conclusion, I think it's good that there are certain ethnic lines to appeal to peoples certain tastes. The markets is very oversaturated right now and IR fans have nothing to complain about since there is an abundance of films dedicated to their taste. I just wish people would look at the whole picture before crying racism & judging the girls who don't do IR.

 
AztecGold11
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Posted - Dec 13 2005 : 8:16AM
I don't think porn is racist in the titles of the movies--it's just the "nature of the beast".

There is SO MUCH porn being released every day that companies have to use outrageous titles to gain attention to their product.
Do you think a girl would be insulted by a racial slur when she is called much worse--slut-whore-ho-cunt-tramp-freak-and lots more? And expected to do outrageous, nasty things?

As far as girls refusing to do IR--as said many times--it is her choice. There may be males who don't do IR--but you don't hear about them.
People HAVE to have choices--that's what makes them individuals not a member of the masses.
I believe Communists found that out the hard way.(No political rant coming!)

Lurker01
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Posted - Dec 13 2005 : 11:46AM
If her Husband/Boyfriend/Pimp won't let her do blacks, is *She* the racist?

I don't like the look of asian guys dicks or pubes, so I won't watch porn with asian guys in it. I don't dislike asian guys and don't make any other distinctions concerning them in *real* life. If I was a female pornstar, I doubt I could work with them, though. Am I a racist?

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brewski
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Asian is racist? Since when?
Dude Love
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Posted - Oct 14 2007 : 1:26AM
Anything 'inter' is cool with me: International Roast coffee, intermission at the drive inn, the internet.
It's all good.
the unknown pervert
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Posted - Oct 14 2007 : 5:59PM
Wow, somebody stumbled across an IR thread that hasn't been locked. This should be sent to the Smithsonian for historical significance and preservation.
conquistador
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Posted - Oct 14 2007 : 6:07PM
I fail to see the correlation. And all IR threads ought to be locked summarily. Never goes any which way but down.
studioline
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Posted - Nov 28 2007 : 4:03AM
I have also noticed that many interracial scenes (blackonblonde) are shorter which is a good thing because I get bored when the fucking goes on and on and on and on.
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john_qyoo_public
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Posted - Nov 28 2007 : 4:36PM
I don't really care if stars do scenes with black guys (so no "taint" there or anything), but I won't watch them and any rental or purchase I make is for other scenes and in spite of the interracial ones. So, if a star does lots of IR they're limiting the amount of my money they'll be raking in.
Edited by - john_qyoo_public on 11/28/2007 4:39:38 PM
bone70
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Posted - Nov 28 2007 : 10:34PM
Would love to see Briana Banks in a Gang land style film. know it won't happen, but can always hope. Wonder how much it would cose to get her to do something like that?
 
eromodel
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Posted - Jul 4 2011 : 3:59PM
Porn is a fantasy, most men black or white would not have a chance fucking a good looking pornstar without money, most pornstars are also escorts and only the elite have the luxury of picking and choosing who they fuck, any manager or "honest" pornstar will tell you this. Below I will write down a few porn myths, then dispute them.
1) Porn is a form of art- wrong if you ask me, most porn is produced with the same lame scenario's. the women and men usually can't act and it mainly sells to people who aren't fulfilled with the person they usually sleep with for free.
2) Pornstars don't do interracial becouse they might make less money- well this might have some validity becouse beleive it or not, some pornstars grew up in parts of the world where there is open rascist, I mean they won't say stuff like "I'm not rascist", becouse they want you to know they are.
3) Pornstars can't do good scenes if they aren't into their male partner- give me a break, some of these women have sex with snakes and horses, I guess you could say you love animals. lol. Seriously that is a joke. Some of these women are disgusted by some of the talent they have to work with but it pays the bills so I guess if your booked up solid, you can be a little choosy, still kinda a rascist but thats ok in america.
Sorry for all the writing but this topic just kills me, there are plenty of women all colors, who like black men, so if a few pornstars feel better about theirselves if they can say "I may be a slut but at least I don't sleep with black guys, who are we to judge them.
eromodel
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Posted - Jul 4 2011 : 4:28PM
I would also ask that everyone be honest with themselves. first the definitions used in this forum are wrong, first one below;
Rascist- a rascist isnt someone who just doesn't like someone else becouse of their ethnicity, you have to have power over that person or people to be rascist. thats a widely missused term, as most pornstars or individuals don't actually have the power to fire people or control them.
Hitler is a perfect example of a rascist, he hated everyone who wasn't 100% german, even though he wasn't, but he actually had power over a large majority of the people he hated, so he would be a rascist, not earl that owns the owls nest tavern and hates black guys.
Back to the being honest part, it's perfectly fine to be predjudice for whatever reason you want, I think that is what some of the posters are trying to say without admitting they are. their are plenty of black people who are predjudice and plenty of white people who are, it's ok. I don't like fat people, does that make me rascist against fats. lol
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Posted - Jul 4 2011 : 5:19PM
I fucked a couple if black girls I met , but 90% of the black girls I see around in real life aren't attractive , if you ask me would you fuck any black girl I'd say no, if you ask me would you fuck THAT black girl I'd say yes or no depending on her.
I have a couple of friend married (or so) with a black one one of them is a male and she's a black cuban girl , the other is a female, blonde and she's not married but she lives with a blacktrue african guy from Senegal it's been 10 years now they have two kids both black , none of them have ever had a problem with us , not even when they just met and the african guy was a rival as he wasn't the only one who would like to live with her.
If you ask me would you marry a black girl I'll answer If I'm in love yes it is not a problem, but then again if you ask me if I would fuck a black girl without knowing who is she I'd answer no.
as I said the most part of the black girls I see aren't of sexual interest whether the most part of whites are , am I racist?
I'm talking about biological reactions nothing else
eromodel
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Posted - Jul 4 2011 : 9:04PM
You would not be a rascist at all. The word rascist is a more powerful and sinister word, it means I have the power to control, dictate, deligate to a people strictly based on race, so unless you have this power you cannot be rascist. It sounds like your preference in women isn't black, nothing inherently wrong with that.
I am a black male who grew up on air force bases, some in europe, some in germany, then in the states, if there was rascism or predjudice people, I was to young to know. Humans beings figure out whats attractive by unknowingly processing everything they see and hear from the time they born. We are bombarded with images of whats supposed to be the ideal woman and man, these images usually aren't of black people, actually blacks in hollywood are usually portrayed as bumbling idiots or a simpathy figure to be killed halfway through the film.
What I'm taking a long time to say is my preference in women is all over the board, but I used to think the only way to be cool wasd to be with a white women, I know think color is a non factor, I do still like smaller facial features, like a roman nose, but then I like full lips, I'm trying to say the world fucks with our brains, we can't help who we like.
Long winded I know but people just fuck who you like, theres usually plenty to go around. If people think pornstars aren't nobel peace prize winners, then dont watch.
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Posted - Jul 6 2011 : 5:45PM
If you are going to use the word in every other sentence you write at least learn how to spell it.
Solar4
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Posted - Jul 9 2011 : 9:53AM
Assuming you're white, it's logical that you would prefer white women. Biologically though men are far less particular about their mating choices than women.
Recall the familiar cliche of racist slave owners who despise blacks yet sleep with their female Black slaves, and in particular the story of Thomas Jefferson, slave owner, who likely had multiple children with Sally Hemmings, one of his slaves.
As for women though they tend to be far more particular in their mating choices and by extension far more racially discriminatory, which is borne out by numerous studies.
And when one looks at the adult industry the women within it make mating choices that are far more common to men, given their psychological makeup, than women outside the industry, so very few of these women off camera care what race a man is, it is only on camera when faced with pressure from various entities, including friends, bf's, husbands, agents, society, that they decide to racially discriminate and exclude Blacks from the category of people they work with.
And based on that and other evidence we see then that there are only a handful of women in the industry who are strongly racially biased against Blacks on and off camera, whereas most aren't off camera and only modify their behavior in their on camera work.
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Posted - Jul 9 2011 : 11:20AM
Yes I'm a white European male (with red hair and beard when I had one)
as for Jefferson I'd believe that he maintained Sally in slavery because it would've be socially unacceptable in his times to live "more uxorio"(legal latin means "like those married") with a blac woman although it was perfectly acceptable (though taken hidden) to have sex with a slave ,but when they lived in Paris they lived as a regular couple ,however in France and in the most part of XIX century's Europe slavery was already outlawed.
You said what I meant more clearly. If even a male might find some black girls ugly it could be true even more for a girl which could be the reason why some won't fuck black guys.
I don't get it, this is like a white girl MUST fuck whatever black man otherwise she's proven racist
eromodel
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Posted - Jul 9 2011 : 12:14PM
Laurie, very well said, and I think you spelled everything correctly as well. lol
Seriously, I like your analysis. Men usually have more sex drive than women so it makes sense that men react on instinct and need more than women. I have been at plenty of frat partys where friends say "I will fuck anything tonight", don't here that from too many women. I think pro racist's have done a great job labeling any racial complaint "playing the race card", it takes the legitimacy away from all complaints, regardless of the facts, thanks Rush. lol
History has shown that the majority of people at any time are like sheep, sheep stick together for safety reasons, it really is hazardous to stray to far from the flock, even if a white women did like a black man sexualy, it would take courage to stray from the flock, just using percentages, that will limit the number of women who would openly do that.
Think back to junior high school days, remember the small percentage of outspoken people, the ones who bravely told the mindless bully to leave the hearing impaired student alone, or stop making fun of the kid that wears the same shirt three times a week becouse the family doesn't have money for new clothing. So the sheep will stay busy looking for cues that tell them how to think and feel.
Sheldon
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Posted - Jul 9 2011 : 10:13PM
Slaves do not have a choice but to sleep with their masters if that is what their masters want to do.
Sex without consent is rape.
Sally Hemmings was raped.
There is no contradiction between a slave owner despising blacks and raping them.

Edited by - Sheldon on 7/9/2011 10:18:17 PM

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