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SQUIDMONKEY
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Posted - Oct 2 2002 : 7:00AM
I think that it is more acceptable for a woman to have a dildo/vibrator than a man to have a fake vagina/stroker.

Why do you think this is???

And if you don't agree with this statement, why???

SQUIDMONKEY

aybesea
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Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Oct 2 2002 : 9:10AM
I believe it is and I believe the reason is that we men love to watch videos of those women using those vibrators. Therefore, we make it more OK.

On the other hand, when is the last time you ordered a vid of a guy using a stroker???

Just a thought.

SQUIDMONKEY
Ass Lord

446 Posts
8/02
Posted - Oct 2 2002 : 10:53AM
Good point, but women wouldn't buy a vibrator thinking to themselves "Hmmm, I wonder if a guy would get off on seeing me stick this up my cookie??".

Surely women have greater options of untensils to be used instead??? Therefore less likely to make a purchase??

Hahha I wouldn't get one, though I wonder if it would come into any girls fantasies?

SQUIDMONKEY

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Posted - Oct 2 2002 : 4:08PM
maybe because there are so many vibrators and dildos that look like colorful fun toys. but most of the items for guys look like torn off appendages - there's an element of horror to a disembodied vagina.
Planet Sex
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1951 Posts
6/01
Posted - Oct 2 2002 : 4:16PM
StephIIIEEEE!!!! You spoiled the plot of the screenplay I´m trying to sell to Extreme Ass.!

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-lunacy-
Senior Member

1081 Posts
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Posted - Oct 2 2002 : 4:53PM
For so long sex was about men and their satisfaction, now womyn are being encouraged to explore and enjoy their sexuality.

Couple that with the age old assumption that all men are perverts and driven soley by their penises there in lies your double standard.

Evil_Rip
Senior Member

Power overwhelming
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12/99
Posted - Oct 2 2002 : 10:24PM
hmmmmm
women playing with toys exploring their sexuality is Liberating.
us men exploring our sexuality is just animal...
Planet Sex
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Posted - Oct 2 2002 : 10:56PM
From a UK housewares leaflet:

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Endorphin
Luminary

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Posted - Oct 3 2002 : 12:26AM
Good question. Here's a few thoughts.

From a moral perspective it should be no different. If you think it is wrong for a man to get off by an object then you should feel the same for women. If you morally accept women using vibrators then I see no reason why you would find moral opposition to men using sex toys. That being said any differences in opinions on the matter should not be from a moral perspective, rather you may say preferences.

From the perspective of the same sex:

Men may be against it because of a belief in conquest. We should be able to obtain women. Masturbation is more acceptable because we all have nights alone and we can't blame others for meeting the ideal because we all do it. But actually purchasing Jewel De'nyle's fake vagina is making a commitment to nights without the real thing.

Women, on the other hand, understand that using a man to get off bears some consequences, especially the possibility of pregnancy. So, I would think they would be more understanding of a subsititute for the real think.


From the perspective of the opposite sex:

I believe that men in general are more turned on by the visual. We love to see an unobstructed view of a woman in pleasure. Seeing a woman with a vibrator is great.

Women on the other hand are less turned on by the visual. But think about it, even when a woman is turned on by what she sees with her eyes, what is she really seeing? The male sex toy will obstruct her view of the cock. A vibrator does not really obstruct a man's view of the pussy.

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Londo-Cat
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46 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 3 2002 : 12:58AM
Awww damn... that sure made it sound attractive now. Next time I'm in the adult store I'll be sure to look at one of them and see if they actually look like a "torn off appendage" but somehow I think you might be right on this one...

Damn though... that sure does sound rough about the description though.

Ouch!

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Posted - Oct 3 2002 : 9:44AM
sorry for the horrorific description - i was just kidding. in all seriousness the biggest difference is that female "massagers" can be sold at mainstream stores like amazon (who has featured the candida royalle vibes on their health and beauty homepage a few times.) mainstream stores can't get away with selling masturbators for me - what are they going to do, call the fleshlight a flashlight with a twist?

once in the adult shopping realm, i don't think there is a double standard at all.

-lunacy-
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Posted - Oct 3 2002 : 11:51AM
Now Rippy, I didn't say that's what I thought, or agreed with. Just that was my take on the question at hand from a societal view.
Londo-Cat
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9/02
Posted - Oct 4 2002 : 2:46AM
Yes, I suppose thats true. Kind of hard to mask the male "massagers" as anything else, while the generic female ones can be sold as "Neck & Back massagers".

I just went to Big Als on Broadway in San Francisco and took a look at some of the fake vagina/stroker(s) and it was hard not to keep from laughing. They did indeed look like some kind of strange apendage or a disembodied vagina.

However ... I did actually see one of those "Read Dolls" that they sell over the internet for $5000 a pop.

Damn -- I hear that there are guys that swear by them.

Evil_Rip
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Posted - Oct 4 2002 : 2:56AM
I should be more clear in the future, I didn't mean to say that is what you meant to say. I meant to mean that what I meant to mean when I said that is that I meant that is the general feeling.
get what I mean?

Planet Sex
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1951 Posts
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Posted - Oct 4 2002 : 3:08AM
In the immortal words of Daffy... "This means war!"
 
P-Knuckle
Member

309 Posts
11/01
Posted - Oct 4 2002 : 12:05PM
Imagine this scenario-

You just start dating a girl, she invites you up to her place and shows you that she owns several dildos/vibrators, etc. What do you think?

'Woah, I have a sexually liberated, kinky girl who is gonna be fun!'


Now imagine this-

A woman starts dating you, you invite her up to your place and you show her your hustler cyberskin Cybersuck or your Eager Virgin Masturbator. What does she think?

"Woah, I have a loser who can't get laid and masturbates with goofy jello lumps, this is gonna be fun...'


There-in lies the double standard.

Chillin
Member

San Diego
208 Posts
9/01
Posted - Oct 4 2002 : 9:11PM
The only problem is....they're probably both right!

Chillin..

SQUIDMONKEY
Ass Lord

446 Posts
8/02
Posted - Oct 18 2002 : 7:12AM
Yeah I agree with P-Knuckle. This was my point really. A woman's gonna think that your a loser if she finds it (thats if youve hidden it away)

I mean, why can't a guy have one without prejudice??

SQUID

Arethusa
Member

Enjoying Sweden
99 Posts
8/02
Posted - Oct 18 2002 : 2:00PM
I think women who own their own sex toys would be more openminded about a man owning the same. For instance I own a vibrator so I don't think I'd be all that disgusted if a guy owned a vagina/stroker or any equivalent thing. But if a guy has a whole collection of blow up dolls and inflatable sheep, that I would find weird. But then, my roomate would be totally appalled if any guy she knew owned such a thing and she wouldn't even dream of buying a vibrator. It's just a matter of how open you are to toys.
aybesea
Senior Member

Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Oct 18 2002 : 2:04PM
'Nuff said!



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