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Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 3:06AM Is this a new thing or am I just the 'tard who is only now noticing this? I've been mildly aware of the lack of orgasms, but one I started specifically paying attention to the contract performers' scenes, it's become blaringly obvious - Wicked girls never cum. Ok...maybe "never" is too strong of a word. Devinn Lane did, but that was a porn-eternity ago. At first I thought it was a contract girl thing..but no, it seems specific to Wicked. Vivid girls cum sometimes. Adam & Eve girls cum sometimes. When VCA was around, VCA girls came all the time. I'm thoroughly convinced that if for some bizarre reason a Wicked girl climaxes, it's edited out. Is it in the contract they sign? "As a 'Wicked girl', thou shalt never orgasm onscreen." Is it considered unsophisticated to cum on camera? Would they look stupid? Would they fuck up their poses? Or is it their hair they're more concerned with? With the current bunch, has anyone seen any of them orgasm in a Wicked movie ever? Lemme know. I'm curious. Please tell me I'm full of shit. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 4:04AM I think you're right, it probably has something to do with the way features are shot, although honestly I don't know if I've seen more than a handful of real female orgasms in all of porn: feature or gonzo. And they may have just been convincing acting. [Link]
LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06	Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 6:58AM Maybe it's just that Wicked is going for reality? [Link]
Loraine Senior Member 1559 Posts 3/04	Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 9:48AM ^ Whose reality? [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 11:59AM I think Blacksix has a point. I doubt real female orgasms are common at all in all of porn. I'd just as soon not see it if it has to be faked. And then, sometimes, directors and people who own companies have their own little things they don't want in their movies. Maybe they tell their girls it's fine to cum if it's real but just not to fake orgasms. I'd venture a guess that the large majority of "orgasms" you see in gonzo are faked. Some of them good fakes but fakes nonetheless. [Link]

warrenwest67 Member Thanks for the mammaries. 966 Posts 1/07	Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 1:09PM What stands out to me are the "Big Wet Asses" videos I have seen were the Girls have awesome orgasms. And some have more than one in a scene. So I guess I take for granted that its a performance that I am watching and that I don't expect to see the Girls cumming. Sad but true. I get off even more by seeing "real" female orgasms in my porn. [Link]
matchmaker Senior Member 24912 Posts 4/05	Posted - Apr 3 2008 : 12:24AM Savoy wrote: With the current bunch, has anyone seen any of them orgasm in a Wicked movie ever? Lemme know. I'm curious. Please tell me I'm full of shit. Click to expand Jessica Drake looked like she got off a few times in a scene she did with Julia Ann in the movie "Writer's Block". By the way, I don't think you're full of anything. [Link]
Pagoda Senior Member Thread Killer 1747 Posts 10/05	Posted - Apr 3 2008 : 2:58AM Maybe it's the fact that they work with the same male performers every single time, so it's "just another day at the office" for them. I don't understand why they don't at least fake orgasms, though. Wicked movies are marketed toward couples, and you'd think female viewers would appreciate seeing the girls get a little pleasure in these scenes. It might also depend on who's directing the movie. Wicked only has a handful of directors making most of their titles. I think there's Brad Armstrong, Michael Raven, Jonathan Morgan, and now Stormy. I'll check out one from each of them and report back. [Link]
Tristram Member 80 Posts 2/06	Posted - Apr 3 2008 : 3:21AM I tend to think that most female porn orgasms are fake, and at any rate as a viewer it's hard to tell a real one from a fake one. But even if they are mostly fake, it is a bit odd that Wicked chooses not to have them in their scenes. Personally, I've been watching less Wicked films in the last few years than I used to, but one thing I had a feeling of was that there is less cunnilingus in their films compared to before, although I'm not sure. Couples porn has never had a truly equal focus on male and female pleasure, but perhaps it's becoming even more geared towards mainly men than it used to be. [Link]
Loraine Senior Member 1559 Posts 3/04	Posted - Apr 3 2008 : 3:29AM Wicked Girls never cum - only good girls do? [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Apr 3 2008 : 4:15AM 'Whores don't cum.' PT [Link]
michaelraven Member 12 Posts 1/03	Posted - Apr 3 2008 : 2:38PM I have witnessed Stormy, jessica and Carmen all experience what appeared to be orgasms during a scene and while I would imagine that most female "orgasms" on screen are fake, I'm not sure even I could tell the difference if performed well. As far as Wicked supposedly editing out the female orgasm, I can assure you it is not a "company policy" nor do I see it happening with our editors at all. It has been my experience that most women have very distinct way of expressing their orgasms. Some women are very vocal and thrash about wildly...others are a bit more reserved and remain very quiet. One thing for sure if that there can be no question as to the male orgasm, since there is always physical evidence. [Link]
stormydaniels Member 171 Posts 3/04	Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 10:04AM Honestly speaking, I probably cum in about half my scenes at least once. I used to think it would be more difficult to orgasm in the movies I directed since I have so much more on my mind, but it is actually easier since I have complete control and am not listening to a director. Occassionally, I have found myself getting close and a director has called a cut or a change of postion only to ruin it for me (of course he had no idea). I find Michael Raven (who tends to be quieter during sex scenes) makes it much easier for me to orgasm as well. On a side note, MANY of my orgasms occur during the softcore filming. As a director, I see this alot with other girls as well. The reason for this is simple female anatomy. The best/easiest way for us to cum is from close fucking and/or grinding because of the added sensation of the stimulation of the clit. This is hard to achieve in the postions needed for viewing hardcore. As a result a lot of the female orgasms are lost to the softcore or "cable" versions of the scene. Edited by - stormydaniels on 4/4/2008 10:05:57 AM [Link]
bigdawg Member 127 Posts 3/08	Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 10:44AM michaelraven wrote: One thing for sure if that there can be no question as to the male orgasm, since there is always physical evidence. Click to expand I have a question about that. I remember reading a few years ago that cumshots were often fakes with either potatoe soup or cream of mushroom soup depending on the "look" the director wanted. Is any of that true of total crap. [Link]
Gentleman Jon All-Star Member 1881 Posts 6/05	Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 11:05AM ^ I don't think they used soup, but I do know they have used fake semen in stills, like for a magazine. Especially if they were going to shoot stills, and then shoot video. That way, the guy would have a better pop in the video if he hadn't already cum when they shot stills. Of course, Private used to actually have stills of the sperm shooting out, maybe they still do. But to get that effect in a still consistently, they had to use some kind of high speed camera in combination with a strobe light, which they would activate as soon as he started to cum. They would get great shots of the semen arcing between his dick and her face, but because of the strobe, the lighting for the cumshot pics would be completely different from any of the other pics in the layout. [Link]

DanaDeArmond Porn Unicorn TheInternetsGirlfriend.com 2786 Posts 1/06	Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 12:49PM i am pretty darn sure i just made jessica drake cum. [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08	Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 12:54PM ^And I'm pretty damn sure that by saying that, you just made me cum. [Link]
RedClayFH Member 256 Posts 2/08	Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 12:56PM killbillvol69 wrote: ^And I'm pretty damn sure that by saying that, you just made me cum. Click to expand hahaha [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 1:58PM stormydaniels wrote: On a side note, MANY of my orgasms occur during the softcore filming. As a director, I see this alot with other girls as well. The reason for this is simple female anatomy. The best/easiest way for us to cum is from close fucking and/or grinding because of the added sensation of the stimulation of the clit. This is hard to achieve in the postions needed for viewing hardcore. As a result a lot of the female orgasms are lost to the softcore or "cable" versions of the scene. Edited by - stormydaniels on 4/4/2008 10:05:57 AM Click to expand Thanks Stormy for your comments. Many of us who buy hardcore porn closely scrutinize each scene in the hope of discovering a real female orgasm. It has always been my belief as you have confirmed, that the positions are the problem for female orgasms and I think it is also a problem for the male You mention that the position are needed for viewing hardcore, I think its a case of less is more. Open to the camera seems more of an unwritten rule than a necessity. I want to see the penetration but not to the point where it interferes with the heat between the performer. Open to the camera result in positions that look uncomfortable and at times unnatural. I'd like to see more hardcore grinding and less back and forth, more groin to groin bodies touching, and less long distance positions. [Link]
IWAdult Member 628 Posts 5/06	Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 3:06PM I am not even going to attempt to find an answer to all of this. Porn orgasms have more conspiracy theories than who shot JFK. I am glad Stormy and Michael put in their two cents since they actually work for Wicked, maybe it helps the original question. "As a 'Wicked girl' thou shalt never orgasm onscreen." I think that was the 11th commandment, but they knew it would translate for “Porn Years” so they threw it out. [Link]
Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 10:19PM Wicked girl orgasms are like some mythical fairy. "We promise they exist. Really they do. You just can't see them." Then as a veiwer, they don't. So far ONE person has listed ONE scene in which they think a Wicked girl has orgasmed. That's a bit sad and really proves my point. I'm not on set. I'm at home in front of my TV and to me, Wicked Girls never cum. Thanks for debunking my conspiracy theories, Michael Raven. My faith in Wicked is partially restored. Stormy, I appreciate and can understand/sympathasize with the soft vs. hard positions. I'll buy that, but ntfighter makes an excellent point about enjoying soft positions in a hardcore scene. I love it when that footage is included. 99 times out of 100, it's the hottest moment. Who makes up these rules about closed and open positions and so many minutes here and so many minutes of penetration CUs. Why can't they be tinkered with a bit? Weren't all those porn-making rules created when the raincoater was the target? Why haven't they changed with the audience? Pagoda - thank you. Yes, as the female half of a couple (a demo that Wicked markets to), I would very much appreciate watching women enjoy themselves. I guess that's what is starting to bother me with Wicked. Everything looks pretty, but not much is really happening. Every once in awhile a scene will have good energy. Julia Ann and jessica drake in "Love Always". Carmen Hart and Myles whats-his-face in "Manhunters". After watching jessica drake and Chris Cannon do it for the 25th time, fuck - i'm sure they are bored with each other. Or at least so comfortable with each other that it just does NOT translate to a very exciting sexual experience on camera. Carmen Hart is my favorite right now and it's because she seems to enjoy her scenes the most and comes off as the least composed and self-conscious (for lack of better word). Loraine, I love you for just being you! Black6, I will always adore you for introducing me to V. [Link]
stinkfist Senior Member Subterfuge...... 7401 Posts 4/07	Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 10:28PM bigdawg wrote: Click to expand I have a question about that. I remember reading a few years ago that cumshots were often fakes with either potatoe soup or cream of mushroom soup depending on the "look" the director wanted. Click to expand Oh god i like cream of mushroom..or at least i used to.Now we know why it's called CREAM of mushroom. [Link]
Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 10:37PM hahaha clam chowdaa!! [Link]
matchmaker Senior Member 24912 Posts 4/05	Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 1:01AM stormydaniels wrote: On a side note, MANY of my orgasms occur during the softcore filming. As a director, I see this alot with other girls as well. The reason for this is simple female anatomy. The best/easiest way for us to cum is from close fucking and/or grinding because of the added sensation of the stimulation of the clit. This is hard to achieve in the postions needed for viewing hardcore. As a result a lot of the female orgasms are lost to the softcore or "cable" versions of the scene. Click to expand Thanks for the info. [Link]
matchmaker Senior Member 24912 Posts 4/05	Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 1:02AM stormydaniels wrote: Honestly speaking, I probably cum in about half my scenes at least once. ... Click to expand Any scenes, in particular, that you remember? [Link]

stormydaniels Member 171 Posts 3/04	Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 9:26AM Right off the top of my head...some of my best orgasms (I know I am forgetting some) are: with Julian in Space Nuts with Voodoo in The One with Pat Myne in Highway with Barrett Blade in Black Widow (I remember I came hard whe we were standing) with Steven St. Croix in Operation Desert Stormy with Randy Spears in Price of Lust (not released yet) Depending on the lighting, you can usually tell because my face will get flushed immediately afterwards. [Link]
SexyHard Member 673 Posts 6/07	Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 10:16AM stormydaniels wrote: Right off the top of my head...some of my best orgasms (I know I am forgetting some) are: with Julian in Space Nuts with Voodoo in The One with Pat Myne in Highway with Barrett Blade in Black Widow (I remember I came hard whe we were standing) with Steven St. Croix in Operation Desert Stormy with Randy Spears in Price of Lust (not released yet) Depending on the lighting, you can usually tell because my face will get flushed immediately afterwards. Click to expand The scene in Space Nuts was great. You were beautiful, and your clit was obviously hard, in the RCG. Which position made you cum? [Link]
Alexander Portnoy Member Sydnee Steele, Savanna Samson or None. 275 Posts 12/05	Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 5:28PM While we're talking about Wicked girls and their orgasms; there's something about the way Sydnee Steele's orgasmic expressions appeared to change midway through her career that I've been curious about. In the early years, Sydnee's orgasmic cues to the audience were very physical--the most wonderful quiver I've ever seen on the small screen. But in her later Wicked years the quiver disappeared and she relied more on verbal signals. I'm just wondering if anyone else noticed this in Sydnee's performances? Or more generally, if anyone can think of other examples of other stars whose climatic expressions change or vary from scene to scene? [Link]
matchmaker Senior Member 24912 Posts 4/05	Posted - Apr 6 2008 : 2:19AM stormydaniels wrote: Right off the top of my head...some of my best orgasms (I know I am forgetting some) are: with Julian in Space Nuts with Voodoo in The One with Pat Myne in Highway with Barrett Blade in Black Widow (I remember I came hard whe we were standing) with Steven St. Croix in Operation Desert Stormy with Randy Spears in Price of Lust (not released yet) Depending on the lighting, you can usually tell because my face will get flushed immediately afterwards. Click to expand Thank you very much, Stormy! [Link]
skyway Member 192 Posts 7/06	Posted - Apr 6 2008 : 2:24AM "Maybe it's the fact that they work with the same male performers every single time, so it's "just another day at the office" for them." IMO this is one of the biggest things holding Wicked back. Much of what they do, and all of their hot women, could make them the best company out there. But, seeing Randy Spears and Erci Masterosn for the 100th millionth time kinda kills it. they can be good and there are exceptions...but fresh chemistry is usually a good thing. [Link]
TJCummings Member 398 Posts 12/05	Posted - Apr 6 2008 : 5:24AM stormydaniels wrote: Right off the top of my head...some of my best orgasms (I know I am forgetting some) are: with Julian in Space Nuts with Voodoo in The One with Pat Myne in Highway with Barrett Blade in Black Widow (I remember I came hard whe we were standing) with Steven St. Croix in Operation Desert Stormy with Randy Spears in Price of Lust (not released yet) Depending on the lighting, you can usually tell because my face will get flushed immediately afterwards. Click to expand Lucky boys. [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Apr 7 2008 : 11:14AM Edited by - ntfighter on 4/7/2008 11:20:17 AM [Link]
juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05	Posted - Apr 7 2008 : 8:16PM stormydaniels wrote: On a side note, MANY of my orgasms occur during the softcore filming. As a director, I see this alot with other girls as well. The reason for this is simple female anatomy. The best/easiest way for us to cum is from close fucking and/or grinding because of the added sensation of the stimulation of the clit. This is hard to achieve in the postions needed for viewing hardcore. As a result a lot of the female orgasms are lost to the softcore or "cable" versions of the scene. Click to expand Thanks for the info. I always thought softcore versions were simply shot from different angles. Didn't know different sex positions are performed. How about including some "close fucking and grinding" in your hardcore releases? [Link]
Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Apr 9 2008 : 7:28PM Thanks for the list, Stormy. I've only seen one of the movies listed and wasn't truly paying attention to that one. I'll be sure to check 'em out. Alexander Portnoy wrote: In the early years, Sydnee's orgasmic cues to the audience were very physical--the most wonderful quiver I've ever seen on the small screen. But in her later Wicked years the quiver disappeared and she relied more on verbal signals. Click to expand Well, "orgasmic expression" (for lack of a better term) can change over time or from one orgasm to the next. However, being the cynical consumer that I am - more likely she just started faking it towards the end of her career. :) [Link]
jessica Jessica Drake i've been a very, very wicked girl. 110 Posts 8/07	Posted - Apr 10 2008 : 10:42PM oh, i HAVE to get into this one! Wicked Girls don't cum??!? This is news to me, for sure. I'm shooting a huge movie right now called FALLEN (shameless plug) and I can guarantee you i cum. MANY times... I understand that i can't speak for all girls in this business, but i can hoenstly say this: i LOVE sex. i make it a goal to get off at least once in every scene. i've made directors wait. (sorry, Michael Raven!) i've made still photographers wait. i've ground my "bits" on beautiful faces until i cum, and i've bounced on cocks even when we weren't shooting. i'm greedy! i do what it takes, and perhaps sometimes Wicked is a bit more conservative than i am in editing certain things out that i'm doing as i'm cumming, but i know for a fact that real orgasms exist in my movies. i'm a rough girl, i always say i'm sort of a gonzo girl (that loves condoms) in a feature girl world... i like choking, spanking, slapping, hairpulling, spitting, tight grips, hard pounding, etc. so sometimes you're not seeing everything that goes on. also, Stormy has a point. lots of times it happens in softcore, when we can do whatever we want as long as they're not seeing penetration. oral sex is MUCH better like this! i use this time to show my co-workers exactly how to get me off- which leads me to another point. YES, i may work with Randy and certain others a lot, but for me it doesn't get boring or lazy, i just get more comfortable with them in terms of telling them what to do to me, or sometimes they start to figure it out better. there are a few guys that i trust enough to let them get pretty rough with me... but i've never been the type to just show up and bang someone without having some kind of familiarity first. i've only had ONE one night stand in my life, go figure... so here, try these- SOLD- an anal scene with Brad and Keri Sable PERFECT LIFE- b/g with Barrett Blade MANHUNTERS- g/g with Carmen, Kirsten, Exotica FUCK- 4-way girl scene with Katsumi, Felicia & Clara G (it got me an AVN award) ONE MAN'S OBSESSION- anal scene with Brad and Aveena Lee HIGHWAY- g/g with Stormy GIRL IN 6C- g/g with Carmen LOVE ALWAYS- g/g with Julia Ann ABOUT A WOMAN g/g with Devinn Lane DELILAH b/g with Hershel Savage THE CRAVING- anal with Brad (see a trend here?)and the Pied Piper scene too. THE COLLECTOR- b/g/g dp with Lezley Zen and you guessed it, Brad! and i must add: KISSING GIRLS- g/g with Dana Dearmond...YES, Dana, you definitely made me cum. but you knew that already. you're my new favorite. The most recent hard, leg-shaking, mind blowing cumming i did is in the movie i'm shooting now, called FALLEN. I'm in 7 out of 10 scenes. i can't really tell you everything right now, i think i'm waiting on an official press release, but brace yourself. and if you can watch it and STILL think Wicked Girls don't cum, i'll wrestle ya to the ground. OK, so i'll get Barry, my bodyguard to do it. and he's BIG. but for the times you think i might not be, just ask yourself this question: "If I was standing naked on a rock formation in high heeled shoes at night in February by the ocean under a rain machine after working a 16 hour day about to have sex in front of 30 people, could I cum every time??" lol, but at least i try. even if i'm masturbating in my car on the way home... love ya guys. jd [Link]

matchmaker Senior Member 24912 Posts 4/05	Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 1:19AM jessica wrote: LOVE ALWAYS- g/g with Julia Ann Click to expand Cool! I've seen this one. Also, thanks for mention all of those scenes, Jessica! [Link]
oldguy Senior Member 1270 Posts 3/06	Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 6:30PM Wow, what a smoking hot response to this topic, Jessica, guess who I am going to think about when I masturbate tonight (or right now if I can't wait that long!). And now to show my complete ignorance, I am not familiar with a "hard" clit. Does a woman have to have a "hard" clit to orgasm? If so, I have got a lot of practicing to do. [Link]
Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Aug 10 2008 : 10:33AM I came back to this thread to peruse jessica and Stormy's orgasm lists. In my defense, I have only seen ONE of the scenes listed - the g/g with Julia Ann in "Love Always"- and I TOTALLY thought drake was faking it. Whoops. Haha However, I was rewatching "Creme Brulee" last week and decided to check out the bonus scene - jessica drake and Barrett Blade from "Perfect Life". Good gracious. Definitely not faking that one in spoon. Beautiful and intense. So Wicked girls do cum too. :) [Link]
cm37564 Senior Member 1105 Posts 9/05	Posted - Aug 10 2008 : 12:45PM . . . .so, how do they fake the squirting?? (I'm talking all of porn now. . .you don't see many Wicked films with squirting) Edited by - cm37564 on 8/10/2008 12:46:01 PM [Link]
Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 12:45AM There are roughly 1,347 threads that address squirting. Seeing as no Wicked Girl is a squirter, I think you'll have better luck in other threads. [Link]
matchmaker Senior Member 24912 Posts 4/05	Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 12:48AM Savoy wrote: I came back to this thread to peruse jessica and Stormy's orgasm lists. In my defense, I have only seen ONE of the scenes listed - the g/g with Julia Ann in "Love Always"- and I TOTALLY thought drake was faking it. Whoops. Haha Click to expand I saw that scene before too. I thought Jessica Drake had a real orgasm. Also, ... hey Savoy! [Link]
Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 1:16AM Savoy - 0 Matchmaker - 1 (hey you) [Link]
matchmaker Senior Member 24912 Posts 4/05	Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 1:22AM ^I've missed seeing you at ADT, Savoy! It's cool to see you! [Link]
CrouchingBear Deactivated User 299 Posts 5/08	Posted - Aug 12 2008 : 3:09AM Maybe Wicked girls would cum if they were let off the leash and allowed to be a little uninhibited. [Link]
juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05	Posted - Aug 12 2008 : 6:34AM CrouchingBear wrote: Maybe Wicked girls would cum if they were let off the leash and allowed to be a little uninhibited. Click to expand Obviously you haven't watched a Wicked film in years. [Link]
CrouchingBear Deactivated User 299 Posts 5/08	Posted - Aug 12 2008 : 11:42AM juha wrote: CrouchingBear wrote: Maybe Wicked girls would cum if they were let off the leash and allowed to be a little uninhibited. Click to expand Obviously you haven't watched a Wicked film in years. Click to expand Are you seriously going to argue that Wicked is cutting edge porn? They're successful, absolutely. But, it takes them forever to adopt a change in consumer interests. [Link]

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