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bn777
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Posted - Oct 6 2009 : 10:38PM
Does anyone remember the clip that shows the porn star in an interview saying she would fuck anyone but a Muslim or Middle Easterner? I can't remember the correct wording. I wanted to see that clip again!
MrTibbs
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Posted - Oct 6 2009 : 10:49PM
That's too funny. She'd better be careful with that... say you're not going to do scenes with black dudes and you get a bunch of crybabies bitching about it on an internet message board; let it be known you don't do muslims and you'll have clerics issuing a fatwa calling for your head
Nimrod
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Posted - Oct 6 2009 : 10:54PM
Most "true" muslims don't watch porn, so there isn't going to be any complaining. Believe me, because of her profession those guys hate her more than she hates them. I don't think a pornstar will survive one day in a conservative muslim country if people know what she does for a living.

Edited by - Nimrod on 10/6/2009 10:59:04 PM

elgringoviejo58
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Posted - Oct 6 2009 : 11:02PM
It was Ashley Blue, and one can look it up at Youtube, but IMO she was being facetious.
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 7 2009 : 1:30AM
Yes she has written on several occasions since then that she was being facetious.
Whether she really was or not of course only she knows, but she certainly hasn't indicated anywhere else that she holds any ill will towards Muslim people.
 
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Posted - Oct 7 2009 : 3:09AM
Since she's married to David Naz and runs in 'alt porn' circles I don't think overt racism/prejudice would go over too well with her friends. But I've seen the clip and it's in bad taste. For the 'other side' of Ashley you can always check out the clip of Khan Tusion choking her out and then her subsequent on-camera breakdown. Creepy.
donald carlos seaone
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Posted - Oct 7 2009 : 4:07AM
It was on Stern . Good for her...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGzCcu6czSA
Unferth
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Posted - Oct 7 2009 : 3:10PM
Ever notice how Stern always seems to bring out the worst in people?
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Posted - Oct 7 2009 : 4:44PM
Maybe because he IS the worst in people.
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Posted - Oct 7 2009 : 5:29PM
^ Good one.
RiveGauche1999
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Posted - Oct 7 2009 : 9:41PM
It would be even funnier if she said she didn't do white guys then what would you be doing: "bitching about it on an internet message board[.]"
mask1234
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Posted - Oct 8 2009 : 3:33PM

Very funny!!!!!!
First: I would say not all Muslims are terrorists, the fingers are not all equal there is about one billion and two hundred million Muslims in the world Is it the logic they are all terrorists
Second:
she In the eyes of the Muslim and Christian and Jewish prostitute just seeks only just money Who pays more gets to have fun
Like garbage I do not think anyone has the honor to his wife that the composition of his sons mother
Rosco Fuji
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Posted - Oct 8 2009 : 3:56PM
Reagardless of her being factious or not, who cares? Lot's of girls won't fuck Ron Jeremy or Christian X either. How come noone raises a fuss about a Ron Jeremy ban?
duefuss
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Posted - Oct 8 2009 : 4:14PM
Because discriminating against an individual does not necessarily reveal racism, ageism, etc., or any bias beyond one against that individual for any number of reasonable causes.
The -isms however refer to a pattern of bias against all persons based on a trait which makes them inferior in the mind of the biased.
Jonny Jay All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 8 2009 : 4:48PM
Already touched on this:
https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=139618&FORUM_ID=1&CAT_ID=1&m=&reply=1618263#post1618263
Ashley Blue is not the only one who talks total crap in this particular BHTS footage.
 
Rosco Fuji
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Posted - Oct 8 2009 : 5:01PM
Who really cares about who will fuck whom and who they won't fuck? If a girl only fucks white guys, people bitch that she won't do black guys. If she's a I/R queen, people bitch that she doesn't do white guys! Let's celebrate the girls who leave everyone else in the dust by fucking whomever is thrown in front of them. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that if a mainstream Porn girl did a dog on film, there'd be people bitching about the fact that she did a poodle instead of a doberman. Let's put this whole debate to bed and just celebrate the fact that girls in porn entertain us in a variety of non mainstream ways that most guys will never experience in their lives and for the very low cost of a $4 rental at the local video store.
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Posted - Oct 8 2009 : 7:01PM
Guys, who cares about the fucking? The issue isn't really even about who she will & won't fuck. The thread title has a misplaced emphasis. She wasn't even asked if she would or would not fuck a Muslim person. She was asked if she would fuck "a legitimate Al-Qaeda terrorist". The disturbing part is her answer:
"Um, I hate Muslims. Fuck no. I hate Muslims. No. I wouldn't. Alright there you found it; I fucking hate Muslims, I do. I'm just getting really pissed right now. Alright. I do. I just gu... started boiling up with anger no, oh my God my head's all we... "
This has almost nothing to do with porn, except for the fact that it was a porn performer speaking.
[edit: screwed up the transcript a tiny bit; fixed.]
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 10/8/2009 7:04:11 PM
MrTibbs
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Posted - Oct 8 2009 : 7:44PM
Will not fuck Muslims?
Someone ought to inform her that she already does with her tax dollars.
MrTibbs
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Posted - Oct 8 2009 : 7:44PM
Seriously though, that's fucked up.
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Posted - Oct 8 2009 : 10:47PM
Ummm....
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 9 2009 : 1:18AM
Since it was a tasteless joke those defending her statement are particularly pointless.
elgringoviejo58
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Posted - Oct 9 2009 : 1:22AM
Perhaps, but clueless are those who take seriously a joke told in bad taste.
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Posted - Oct 9 2009 : 1:28AM
What?
The problem with her rant isn't so much a porn issue. It's not like the discussions around, say, IR, where there's all this marketing involved, maybe not doing it cuz of agents, or are they racists? Maybe holding out for more money, maybe she'll do it but only for her website, blah blah blah. In other words, a porn-specific discussion/rant/argument/whatever.
Here, it's just a racist rant. The exact rant, word for word, could have been given by someone not in porn.
[edit: check that. It's not a racist rant per se, it's more of a religious-ist rant. Um, that's not a word is it.]
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 10/9/2009 1:29:55 AM
duefuss
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Posted - Oct 9 2009 : 9:38AM
Roscoe Fuji wrote:
Let's put this whole debate to bed and just celebrate the fact that girls in porn entertain us in a variety of non mainstream ways that most guys will never experience in their lives and for the very low cost of a $4 rental at the local video store.
Nicely said and I agree.
eduardo911
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Posted - Oct 9 2009 : 5:45PM
I do think the porn angle is relevant. Islam is fundamentally hostile to women who engage in extramarital sex, let alone porn. This despite the fact that many Muslim men, given the opportunity, have no qualms having sex with such women, but they generally consider such a woman to be morally inferior, but not the man she has sex with. There are plenty of examples to be found of this double standard. In countries where sharia law is practiced, women can be subjected to severe punishment for the slightest suggestion of 'immoral behaviour' (such as having lipstick in your purse (I'm not kidding) in some areas of Indonesia where regional governments have been allowed to implement Islamic bylaws, such Tasikmalaya (West Java) and Aceh. Floggings are among the punishments stipulated by such bylaws. In Iran, people are routinely executed for sexual transgressions.
I think it's not so odd for a pornstar to 'hate' Islamic behavioural norms and the people who endorse them, who would have them killed by law., I am aware that there are plenty of 'moderate' Muslims who wouldn't support such punishments, but fanatics are often much more influential in public life than the moderates. If it's natural for Jews to hate Nazis, or for blacks to hate KKK members, I think it's not so shocking that a pornstar might hate (fundamentalist) Muslims. This has little, if anything, to do with 'racism'.
Edited by - eduardo911 on 10/9/2009 5:51:40 PM
 
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 10 2009 : 12:10AM
Since it was a joke your post is kinda pointless but I'd point out that 'fundamentalist' Christians and Jews are just as anti-porn.
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Posted - Oct 10 2009 : 1:08AM
Porn makes you hate Muslims, in the same way that being Jewish makes you hate Nazis. Got it.
eduardo911
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Posted - Oct 10 2009 : 2:35AM
I don't expect pornstars and porn producers to be crazy about fundamentalist Christians or orthodox Jews either.
Porn does not make you hate Muslims, but being a pornstar (or being involved in porn in some other capacity) makes you a natural target for Muslim aggression. I might add that a lot of behaviour qualifies as 'porn' to a conservative Muslim (such as 'suggestive dance movements').

Indonesian Muslim hardliners attack Playboy building (2006)
PROSTITUTION, PORNOGRAPHY AND ISLAMIC LAW: WOMEN’S NGOs CONFRONTING ISLAMIC CONSERVATISM IN POST-AUTHORITARIAN INDONESIA
Quote: "Some of the most commonly punished infringements of syariah law are its morality-based provisions – sex out of marriage and inappropriate dress. Early this year a young Acehnese couple were publicly caned for having sexual relations out of marriage (The Sunday Mail, 14 January 2007, p.39). Women have been publicly whipped for being out in public with men who are not their husbands (Perlez 2006a), flogged for kissing their boyfriends in public (Cochrane 2006), and arrested for not wearing headscarves."(p. 76)
Joke?
Edited by - eduardo911 on 10/10/2009 2:40:29 AM
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 10 2009 : 6:24AM
So hardline Muslims hate porn. Thank you Professor Obvious.
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Posted - Oct 10 2009 : 11:23AM
I was just messing with you, KBV69...

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^ Gotcha.
BigBobxxx
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What the fuck does this mean?
duefuss
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Posted - Oct 10 2009 : 6:22PM
I had to think about that one for a while, but, by damn that analogy is positively elegant in its simplicity.
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Posted - Oct 10 2009 : 8:32PM
The composition of his son's mother, of course.
(Majority water)
Sheesh!


Edited by - fu_q on 10/10/2009 8:33:17 PM

BigBobxxx
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Posted - Oct 10 2009 : 11:41PM
What the fuck does this mean?
 
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Posted - Oct 11 2009 : 1:36AM
^
I have no idea what the guy was talking about...or what I was talking about.

groin-grabbingly
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Posted - Oct 11 2009 : 12:44PM
"Muslim or Middle Easterner" this is a dangerous generalisation. there are millions of Middle Eastern people who are not Muslim and there are millions of Muslims who are not Middle Eastern. one does not automatically mean the other
okay that said it is irrelevant for a porn chick to say "I will not fuck a Muslim" since a real practicing Muslim would never fuck a porn chick. it would be a cause of great shame and scandal. in fact real Muslims do not engage in pre-marital sex at all. unlike Catholics the majority of Muslims live strictly by the rules of their religion. just look at the way they pray 5 times a day, every day
so this is like a porn chick saying "I will not fuck an Amish" who cares? the Amish guy sure doesn't. he is too busy living in the 1800s
groin-grabbingly
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Posted - Oct 11 2009 : 12:50PM
very true. the former pornstar Aylar Lie (she did scenes in LA as Diana) said she can never go back to her birth country Iran because of the death threats she has received. she lives in Norway which is much more tolerant about her being a sexpot
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Posted - Oct 11 2009 : 1:17PM
^My friend from high school used to watch it all the time. He was pretty devout--his family had governmental ties to Egypt.
He excused watching it as "art".
He also told me stories about his friend in Saudi Arabia who had a number of porn tapes hidden inside the back of his t.v.
I'm not saying that this is normal, but I wouldn't be surprised if more devout Muslims watch it than one would initially think.
(Much like devout / semi-devout ______ ; fill in the blank with whatever religion you would like.)
Edit: removed a first name from this.


Edited by - fu_q on 10/11/2009 1:17:46 PM

torris
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Posted - Oct 11 2009 : 1:43PM
Insn't Zena Raggi a Turkish Muslim?
But I agree who the fuck cares. Those beards have plenty of other issues to go jihad about. So let's get with the real issue.
What new Muslim world talent (women obviously) is out there fucking in porn?
Is there a master list maintained anywhere on this forum?
groin-grabbingly
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Posted - Oct 11 2009 : 1:59PM
is your friend still a Muslim? does he pray 5 times a day? does he fast during Ramadan? has he made s pilgrimage to Mecca? these are not even the habits of a hardline Muslim, these are the beliefs of any normal practicing Muslim
if we know anything about our current global political climate one thing we know is that "devout Muslim" cannot be compared with "devout whatever religion you would like."
all i am saying is that it is not like U.S. Jews or Catholics where you go to church or synagogue once a week and then go on with typical modern sexually liberated life. regardless of your "semi devout" friend, real Muslims are a different breed
if you want to get anecdotal then i might as well mention a client whose face i have never seen. three years i have known her and the only thing i recognize about her is her niqab
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Posted - Oct 11 2009 : 2:42PM
We lost touch 15(ish) years ago, but the answer to the first question was (likely is) "yes" ; the second question was (likely is) "yes"--used to be a real problem for him when we would all play basketball; the answer to the third question is "yes"--he visited that region of the world often.
Sorry that I touched a personal nerve...I wasn't being argumentative...I was just noting a personal experience with one of my best friends from high school.
I'm not even going to touch the content of your statement, though, b/c I don't want to generalize.
The main point that I was making with that was limited narrowly to porn watching and the fact that there are at least some Muslims--as with some members of any religion--who watch it.
Please don't read too much into what I was saying.
groin-grabbingly
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Posted - Oct 11 2009 : 3:23PM
it is not a personal nerve. i am just stating the reality. someone being Muslim is a different thing than our western style of faith. despite our churches and synagogues, the U.S. is essentially a secular nation. this is part of why the U.S. is having such trouble dealing with the Middle East. it is very difficult for us to relate. Iran is still a theocracy
while i do not doubt there are "semi devout" Muslims who watch porn, i would wager they are fewer than in other religions
you brought up a personal anecdote to make your point, so i did too. imagine the religious will it takes to wear the niqab every day. to never show one's face or form in public. that is my client's faith. she does not think she is particularly unusual or different. she is simply a devout Muslim woman living in the U.S.
frankly, even though i cannot read her mind, i think modern sexuality (let alone pornography) is inconceivable to her
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Posted - Oct 11 2009 : 3:31PM
While I don't know for certain, this is likely correct.
So...I will change this statement from before:
"(Much like devout / semi-devout ______ ; fill in the blank with whatever religion you would like.)"
To this one:
"(Somewhat like devout / semi-devout ______ ; fill in the blank with whatever religion you would like.)"


Edited by - fu_q on 10/11/2009 3:40:02 PM

duefuss
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Posted - Oct 11 2009 : 5:35PM
It just can't be said any better than this.
ON 10/13:
BTW, I've lived in 'PA Dutch Country' all my life, and two things. During his rumspringa, a period in his youth when he's permitted to sew his wild oats before settling down, he would SO care. God help the luckless porn sar who found herself in a roomful of horny rumspringers.
After that he'd be too busy living in the 16th Century. The 1800s are way too progressive for orthodox Amish.
Edited by - duefuss on 10/13/2009 7:41:54 AM
pito05
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Rosco Fuji wrote:
the very low cost of a $4 rental at the local video store.
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$4? where do you rent from?

mharris127
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Posted - Oct 12 2009 : 7:43PM
I was raised Christian, and I hate Nazis as well. The same is true of almost any Christian I have ever met (note I didn't say "fundamentalist", they are too rigid in their beliefs and hate almost all that we hold dear). In fact, the Nazis harassed Catholics as well (even sent some to concentration camps along with gays, lesbians and Gypsies). He also went on a rampage that killed almost all mentally and developmentally disabled people in Europe before he even thought about killing the Jews! There are a lot of abhorrent things to hate the Nazis about when you analyze the Hitler administration in its entirety!
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Posted - Oct 12 2009 : 8:07PM
Wait, are you guys saying Nazis are BAD!!??
You learn something new everyday.
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Posted - Oct 13 2009 : 1:48AM
^ I know, right?
I'm sitting here trying to figure out if there are now two posters who didn't realize my post was sarcastic... I thought the "got it" would have been the clue, but maybe not?
mharris127
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Posted - Oct 13 2009 : 5:23PM
I have been known to not take a hint very well. Sorry! Your posts did give me an excuse to get some of my aggression out, though. I just hate Nazis, thank God they are all dead! Sometimes I wish I was fighting Hitler in WWII so I could grab and torture him for days on end (I have some Max Hardcore type ideas for that one except that they don't involve either my mouth or my dick) along with his girlfriend Eva Braun (I would have something very special in store for her).
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