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| matchmaker Senior Member 24909 Posts 4/05 | Microsoft will be ending updates for Windows XP and Microsoft Office 2003 in 2014. The most updated versions are now Windows 8 and Microsoft Office 2013. [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | |
| jayo All-Star Member 2117 Posts 7/04 | That said, it doesn't do me much good regarding OFFICE. I've tried alternatives to MS Access and Excel and haven't found anything I like. I'm not going to get into my rant about this, but I am annoyed by various news reports that tablets will take over the world and the PC is obsolete. Really? You don't work much with big spreadsheets then. |
| Porn Scout Deactivated User 3735 Posts 10/02 | |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02 | Jayo, if it still available, Paradox is or, at least it was, a better relational database. |
| jayo All-Star Member 2117 Posts 7/04 | |
| ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08 | Edited by - ninja1 on 4/19/2013 11:20:34 AM |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Witness how piss-poor Atom processor based equipment is -- can barely get out of its own way. Toys are best left to email, web-surfing and texting devices. But, hey, you can buy $500 iPhones for that |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | |
| Porn Scout Deactivated User 3735 Posts 10/02 | The reason we have devices like the iPad and its Android imitators, the various Kindles, smartphones, etc. is because the relative cost of microprocessors allows us to now have computers/devices that are more portable and do most of what we want, but don't necessarily need to cover every single user scenario. I think it was about 6-7 years ago that I spent around $1800 for an HP laptop. Now, for less than that, I can get an HP Laptop, an iPad, and a Kindle if I want it. If my work provides me with a laptop, I can just go with the iPad or an even cheaper Android version, for my personal internet/email device. |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft Support Lifecycle Microsoft Support Lifecycle Policy FAQ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft Support Lifecycle -- Windows 7 family Microsoft Support Lifecycle -- Office 2010 family |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | And, of course, it is critical that ALL your XP machines are updated to XP SP3 BEFORE you can acquire all the updates that are available. Microsoft will be discontinuing support for XP effective April 8, 2014. And, from what I've been reading (see the links I've posted just above), they are absolutely washing their hands of supporting XP. This is going to be cold-turkey, and will leave those that are unprepared up Shit's Creek. I mention this, because it's not entirely clear to me to what extent, if at all, Microsoft will still keep existing updates for XP available, and for how long, after April 8, 2014. I'm using Windows 7 on all my primary machines, and absolutely love it. However, I still keep an XP SP3 desktop in updated operating condition, as it still can do things that Microsoft now doesn't want to let you do anymore ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Personally, I think that dedicated pinheads will compromise XP fairly soon after support ends. However, due to the still significant number of XP machines still in use (i.e. 36.9% of all Windows users as of August 2013), many of them corporate users, I think MS will have to step-in should serious security issues develop. FYI, projections now estimate XP's expected April 2014 user share to be between 23% and 28% at the end of April 2014. As a brand issue -- and on the heels of the Windows 8 debacle (where even MS now refers to the "new Windows" instead of saying Windows 8) -- they simply can't allow one third of the installed Windows user base crash and burn. Windows XP's user share nose-dives (NOT really saying what the title of the article leads you to believe.) Microsoft retains weapon to silently scrub XP Will automatically push malware cleanup tool to Windows XP until July 2015 Gregg Keizer Computerworld (US) January 26, 2014 Microsoft will be able to silently reach into Windows XP PCs for more than a year after it stops patching the aged OS to clean malware-infected machines, sources close to the company confirmed Friday. The Malicious Software Removal Tool (MSRT) will continue to be updated and deployed via Windows Update through July 14, 2015, 15 months after the Redmond, Wash. company serves its final public security patches for XP on April 8 of this year. By extending the life of the MSRT -- and more importantly, automatically running it each month -- Microsoft will be able to clean some PCs if massive malware outbreaks hit Windows XP after it's retired from support. MSRT is updated monthly as Microsoft targets one or more major malware families it believes are the biggest current threats. The tool is posted for manual download on Microsoft's website and distributed through the Windows Update service on "Patch Tuesday," the second Tuesday of each month when Microsoft pushes security patches to customers running still-supported editions of Windows. MSRT automatically installs on PCs with Automatic Updates enabled, and then runs a seek-and-destroy mission in the background without any action on the part of the user. MSRT is not an antivirus program, but rather a cleaning utility designed to eradicate malware that has already snuck onto a Windows PC. The tool was first released in 2005, but was last updated Jan. 14, 2014, when Microsoft added detection and deletion capabilities for the "Bladabindi" malware family. The extension of MSRT availability was part of the firm's decision earlier this month to offer new anti-malware signatures to XP customers who run the company's free Security Essentials antivirus (AV) software. Previously, Microsoft said it would stop shipping Security Essentials' signature updates to XP PCs after April 8. But in a tacit nod to XP's widespread use, Microsoft postponed the cut-off until July 14, 2015. With MSRT, Microsoft will have a weapon at the ready in case widespread malware infections strike XP machines after April 8, something the company has said is likely. If new malware pops up, or an older virus, worm or Trojan horse begins infecting large numbers of Windows XP systems -- perhaps because they exploited a vulnerability that will never be patched -- Microsoft can at least use the MSRT to try to disinfect those PCs. Extending MSRT's life on XP will not only help customers still running the 13-year-old OS, but is also smart for Microsoft, which could face a public relations backlash if large numbers of compromised Windows XP machines are used by hackers to infect other devices running Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8. Although Microsoft has not stopped urging customers to dump XP, it has recognized that millions of machines will continue to run the ancient OS for months and maybe even years to come. According to metrics company Net Applications, Windows XP's user share -- the percentage of all personal computer owners who went online with that OS -- stood at 29% at the end of December 2013. Computerworld has predicted that about 20% of all personal computers will be running the operating system at the end of 2014. Andreas Marx, CEO of AV-Test, a German company that evaluates security software, said Microsoft's decision to continue providing signatures for Security Essentials was prompted by the still-large numbers of PCs running XP. "It's a significant move, which is likely driven by the (still) high market share for Windows XP, especially in countries like China or India, as well as the millions of users who are using Security Essentials as anti-virus protection on Windows XP," said Marx in an email reply to questions earlier this month. Security Essentials has performed poorly in AV-Test's recent exams, and Marx cautioned users who plan to reply on it to keep their systems safe after Microsoft stops patching XP. "[Security Essentials] is baseline protection and well-suited for people who are not often using the Internet," Marx said. "But if you're online quite often and for long times, if you do financial transactions with your system and the like, I would strongly recommend switching to a commercial security suite." Most antivirus vendors will continue to provide customers running Windows XP with up-to-date signatures for years after Microsoft pulls the patch plug in April. Kaspersky, BitDefender and Avira -- the last is free -- were the top-scoring consumer antivirus programs for Windows XP in AV-Test's latest head-to-head comparisons. For business PCs, Kaspersky, Symantec and Trend Micro ranked 1-2-3. Instructions for turning on XP's Automatic Updates can be found on Microsoft's support site, along with a "Fixit" tool that takes care of the chore with a single click. |
| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | |
| jayo All-Star Member 2117 Posts 7/04 | |
| Pieps Senior Member Honey, come quick, somebody on the internet is wrong! 9233 Posts 11/13 | |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | But as they saw with trying to force Win8 on desktops/laptops, it pissed off a lot of users/IT and had to expand Windows 7 life cycle without pissing off corporate people how just upgrade from XP to Win7. I use 7 and won't be upgrading anytime soon even if stops supporting. Best thing is to invest in good Anti-Virus and update or disable software used for malware vectors like Flash and Java. |
| mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09 |
For the record (and for Drew's information) Ubuntu 14.04 (both the base version and the Edubuntu version) works fine with this forum. I would expect Xubuntu to work as well as it is similar in many ways to Ubuntu. I want to play with Lubuntu on an old, low-powered computer someday as well but as it is drastically different I would not attempt to extract how it would perform using the full Ubuntu OS. |
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