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matchmaker
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24909 Posts
4/05
Posted - Apr 10 2013 : 6:50AM
Microsoft will be ending updates for Windows XP and Microsoft Office 2003 in 2014.
The most updated versions are now Windows 8 and Microsoft Office 2013.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Apr 14 2013 : 8:32AM
There has never been a better opportunity for the Linux people. Windows 8 is garbage and MS is pissing people off right and left.
jayo All-Star Supporter
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2117 Posts
7/04
Posted - Apr 14 2013 : 2:52PM
Agreed, I've willingly purchased my last MS products.
That said, it doesn't do me much good regarding OFFICE. I've tried alternatives to MS Access and Excel and haven't found anything I like.
I'm not going to get into my rant about this, but I am annoyed by various news reports that tablets will take over the world and the PC is obsolete. Really? You don't work much with big spreadsheets then.
Porn Scout
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3735 Posts
10/02
Posted - Apr 17 2013 : 12:59AM
Windows 8 is more about enabling touch screen form factors than it is about replacing PCs with Tablets. Tablets and smartphones are mostly content consumption devices and Microsoft doesn't really understand that business model. Even with their flagship tablet device, the Surface, they're trying to differentiate by making it more of a productivity tool. That's dumb though and just shows they don't get it.
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Your other left
14594 Posts
3/02
Posted - Apr 17 2013 : 1:17AM
Bill Gates made his fortune by realizing that his market was software developers, not the people buying PC's. That, and by pushing business productivity tools, like Word and Excel. That was great when the PC was on the leading edge, but not so much now. Bureaucracies will always love paperwork, so M$ probably won't be going out of business any time soon, but they may see a big decline in profits.
Jayo, if it still available, Paradox is or, at least it was, a better relational database.
 
jayo All-Star Supporter
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2117 Posts
7/04
Posted - Apr 17 2013 : 7:40PM
Will keep an eye out for it, thanks. I've heard of it but never seen it. But one of the main things I like about Access is that I'm very well acquainted with it and it seems well behaved (at least for me).
ninja1
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2939 Posts
1/08
Posted - Apr 19 2013 : 11:20AM
Most people still pull out the laptop when it's time to do "real work", because tablets are too underpowered or awkward or inconvenient to use for serious tasks. I think it is smart move for MS (or anyone) to attempt to bridge the gap and make tablets more useful for more tasks. I envision a future where there will be "toy" tablets which are intended for only content consumption; and more powerful tablets which can do nearly everything a real computer can do.
Edited by - ninja1 on 4/19/2013 11:20:34 AM
Goldstein All-Star Supporter
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3689 Posts
8/10
Posted - Apr 25 2013 : 5:12PM
^ Although, "content consumption," especially video, requires a bit of oomph (to get any kind of satisfactory performance).
Witness how piss-poor Atom processor based equipment is -- can barely get out of its own way.
Toys are best left to email, web-surfing and texting devices.
But, hey, you can buy $500 iPhones for that
LCF All-Star Supporter
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10364 Posts
1/05
Posted - Apr 26 2013 : 5:06PM
I'm still on Win XP Professional on my working PCs (Win 2000 was better though)
the one I use for other purposes is on Linux Ubuntu and works perfectly fine
Porn Scout
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3735 Posts
10/02
Posted - May 15 2013 : 6:03AM
I completely forgot about this thread so am late in responding. I agree that this is what they are trying to do - to bridge the gap. It makes sense if you think there's a real market there. But, I guess that's where I question the strategy. I don't believe that there is more than a niche market for "productivity tablets". I think Microsoft is deluding itself that there are all these users frustrated by the fact that they can't open up Office documents on their tablets. That's nonsense. I watched a video the other day of Bill Gates spouting all this crap on CNBC and I don't think even he believed it. He sure didn't sound convincing.
The reason we have devices like the iPad and its Android imitators, the various Kindles, smartphones, etc. is because the relative cost of microprocessors allows us to now have computers/devices that are more portable and do most of what we want, but don't necessarily need to cover every single user scenario. I think it was about 6-7 years ago that I spent around $1800 for an HP laptop. Now, for less than that, I can get an HP Laptop, an iPad, and a Kindle if I want it. If my work provides me with a laptop, I can just go with the iPad or an even cheaper Android version, for my personal internet/email device.
Goldstein All-Star Supporter
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"You have sacrificed nothing and no one."
3689 Posts
8/10
Posted - Nov 3 2013 : 7:45PM
Goldstein All-Star Supporter
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"You have sacrificed nothing and no one."
3689 Posts
8/10
Posted - Nov 3 2013 : 8:01PM
Goldstein All-Star Supporter
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"You have sacrificed nothing and no one."
3689 Posts
8/10
Posted - Jan 30 2014 : 4:05PM
Bumped to remind everyone that NOW is the time to get ALL your XP machines cleaned-up, patched and completely updated (i.e. all your programs, not just the XP operating system).
And, of course, it is critical that ALL your XP machines are updated to XP SP3 BEFORE you can acquire all the updates that are available.
Microsoft will be discontinuing support for XP effective April 8, 2014.
And, from what I've been reading (see the links I've posted just above), they are absolutely washing their hands of supporting XP. This is going to be cold-turkey, and will leave those that are unprepared up Shit's Creek.
I mention this, because it's not entirely clear to me to what extent, if at all, Microsoft will still keep existing updates for XP available, and for how long, after April 8, 2014.
I'm using Windows 7 on all my primary machines, and absolutely love it.
However, I still keep an XP SP3 desktop in updated operating condition, as it still can do things that Microsoft now doesn't want to let you do anymore , and so that I have a reference system enabling me to see things from the "XP perspective" when dealing with client's computers.
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Personally, I think that dedicated pinheads will compromise XP fairly soon after support ends.
However, due to the still significant number of XP machines still in use (i.e. 36.9% of all Windows users as of August 2013), many of them corporate users, I think MS will have to step-in should serious security issues develop.
FYI, projections now estimate XP's expected April 2014 user share to be between 23% and 28% at the end of April 2014.
As a brand issue -- and on the heels of the Windows 8 debacle (where even MS now refers to the "new Windows" instead of saying Windows 8) -- they simply can't allow one third of the installed Windows user base crash and burn.
Windows XP's user share nose-dives
(NOT really saying what the title of the article leads you to believe.)
Microsoft retains weapon to silently scrub XP
Will automatically push malware cleanup tool to Windows XP until July 2015
Gregg Keizer
Computerworld (US)
January 26, 2014
Microsoft will be able to silently reach into Windows XP PCs for more than a year after it stops patching the aged OS to clean malware-infected machines, sources close to the company confirmed Friday.
The Malicious Software Removal Tool (MSRT) will continue to be updated and deployed via Windows Update through July 14, 2015, 15 months after the Redmond, Wash. company serves its final public security patches for XP on April 8 of this year.

By extending the life of the MSRT -- and more importantly, automatically running it each month -- Microsoft will be able to clean some PCs if massive malware outbreaks hit Windows XP after it's retired from support.
MSRT is updated monthly as Microsoft targets one or more major malware families it believes are the biggest current threats. The tool is posted for manual download on Microsoft's website and distributed through the Windows Update service on "Patch Tuesday," the second Tuesday of each month when Microsoft pushes security patches to customers running still-supported editions of Windows. MSRT automatically installs on PCs with Automatic Updates enabled, and then runs a seek-and-destroy mission in the background without any action on the part of the user.
MSRT is not an antivirus program, but rather a cleaning utility designed to eradicate malware that has already snuck onto a Windows PC. The tool was first released in 2005, but was last updated Jan. 14, 2014, when Microsoft added detection and deletion capabilities for the "Bladabindi" malware family.
The extension of MSRT availability was part of the firm's decision earlier this month to offer new anti-malware signatures to XP customers who run the company's free Security Essentials antivirus (AV) software.
Previously, Microsoft said it would stop shipping Security Essentials' signature updates to XP PCs after April 8. But in a tacit nod to XP's widespread use, Microsoft postponed the cut-off until July 14, 2015.

With MSRT, Microsoft will have a weapon at the ready in case widespread malware infections strike XP machines after April 8, something the company has said is likely. If new malware pops up, or an older virus, worm or Trojan horse begins infecting large numbers of Windows XP systems -- perhaps because they exploited a vulnerability that will never be patched -- Microsoft can at least use the MSRT to try to disinfect those PCs.
Extending MSRT's life on XP will not only help customers still running the 13-year-old OS, but is also smart for Microsoft, which could face a public relations backlash if large numbers of compromised Windows XP machines are used by hackers to infect other devices running Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8.
Although Microsoft has not stopped urging customers to dump XP, it has recognized that millions of machines will continue to run the ancient OS for months and maybe even years to come.
According to metrics company Net Applications, Windows XP's user share -- the percentage of all personal computer owners who went online with that OS -- stood at 29% at the end of December 2013. Computerworld has predicted that about 20% of all personal computers will be running the operating system at the end of 2014.
Andreas Marx, CEO of AV-Test, a German company that evaluates security software, said Microsoft's decision to continue providing signatures for Security Essentials was prompted by the still-large numbers of PCs running XP.
"It's a significant move, which is likely driven by the (still) high market share for Windows XP, especially in countries like China or India, as well as the millions of users who are using Security Essentials as anti-virus protection on Windows XP," said Marx in an email reply to questions earlier this month.
Security Essentials has performed poorly in AV-Test's recent exams, and Marx cautioned users who plan to reply on it to keep their systems safe after Microsoft stops patching XP. "[Security Essentials] is baseline protection and well-suited for people who are not often using the Internet," Marx said. "But if you're online quite often and for long times, if you do financial transactions with your system and the like, I would strongly recommend switching to a commercial security suite."
Most antivirus vendors will continue to provide customers running Windows XP with up-to-date signatures for years after Microsoft pulls the patch plug in April.
Kaspersky, BitDefender and Avira -- the last is free -- were the top-scoring consumer antivirus programs for Windows XP in AV-Test's latest head-to-head comparisons. For business PCs, Kaspersky, Symantec and Trend Micro ranked 1-2-3.
Instructions for turning on XP's Automatic Updates can be found on Microsoft's support site, along with a "Fixit" tool that takes care of the chore with a single click.
CummingLinguist All-Star Supporter
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5908 Posts
11/11
Posted - Feb 1 2014 : 7:36AM
Why hasn't Google made a desktop version of Android (a Linux flavor), and just put Windows users out of their misery?
jayo All-Star Supporter
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2117 Posts
7/04
Posted - Feb 1 2014 : 12:43PM
Another alternative is to simply take the XP machines off the net. Use them for local work, connect them to a secure LAN, but don't allow them an in internet connection.
 
Pieps
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9233 Posts
11/13
Posted - Feb 19 2014 : 2:36PM
I have XP. I might just go dark for a while.

BYOB_Kenobi
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2684 Posts
8/09
Posted - Feb 19 2014 : 3:03PM
Yeah, XP was one of the best versions of Windows but Windows 7 has enough market share and more evolved to stop supporting XP.
But as they saw with trying to force Win8 on desktops/laptops, it pissed off a lot of users/IT and had to expand Windows 7 life cycle without pissing off corporate people how just upgrade from XP to Win7.
I use 7 and won't be upgrading anytime soon even if stops supporting. Best thing is to invest in good Anti-Virus and update or disable software used for malware vectors like Flash and Java.
mharris127
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1844 Posts
8/09
Posted - Jun 25 2014 : 10:08PM
I also use Ubuntu on my desktop (recently installed). The latest version (14.04 as of June 2014) works pretty well, there are a few sites that I can't watch videos on but otherwise it works well. It is a dual install which partitioned my hard drive into XP and Ubuntu sectors of about 225GB each. I also purchased a new Windows 8.1 laptop last month, it has a lot more hang-ups in use and is much slower than Ubuntu on my approximately seven year old Pentium 4 HT desktop (as is XP on the desktop). I expect after the warranty expires on the laptop I will partition the hard drive and install Ubuntu on that as well.
For the record (and for Drew's information) Ubuntu 14.04 (both the base version and the Edubuntu version) works fine with this forum. I would expect Xubuntu to work as well as it is similar in many ways to Ubuntu. I want to play with Lubuntu on an old, low-powered computer someday as well but as it is drastically different I would not attempt to extract how it would perform using the full Ubuntu OS.
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