I have enjoyed work by Belladonna and Mason. They got game... don't know if that counts as "new" though.

Peace out...

McX

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There are several reasons why i like so much women as directors first of all I'm sure no one is forcing them and nobody ask them to do something they won't do expecially considering that most of them are also producers or coproducers , so I'm sure nobody hurts them.They also may choose their partners.

Another thing which is very interesting and exciting for me is that the actress is directing while fucking probably when her face is not in screen (it's a fantasy anyway)and choose what to do and when , i would like to see some extras when those girls say to performers what they have to do to them and how i find all this very exciting

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In the words of the great Dave Attell, he comments about the requirements of a porn director "and.......suck it." Women are just as capable of delivering a great porn film as any guy. I'm sure there's some novelty factor to have a "performer" direct a movie. But if the movie sucks, the fan/buyer will just avoid it anyways.

I'm sure there will be people who comment after me saying "that Kylie can sure shoot a great gaping ass...." or "that new movie by Lauren Phoenix is genius...." or "Jewel's movies are the only ones I can jerk off to...." Maybe there is something extra brought by having a female lens some hardcore fucking and sucking, or that a female director can have as dirty thoughts as any guy.

Originally it was a novelty, but the fact that these gals have proven that their product sells, hence, people like it, has reduced the novelty idea.

I'm not sure what my point was. Oh yeah, it's that it doesn't matter.

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What is interesting many of the well known female directors go a little bit to the "dark side", Susi Medusa Gottardi (several Private/Pirate), Ovidie, Mason and maybe Nicky Ranieri (wife of salieri?) fall also in this my category.

Helen Duval's movies seem also to be a little bit harder (I remember some movie in an industrial site wich was kind of an industrial rave but instead of dancing they fucked), but I am not sure if she actually directs or gives only her name.
Tanya Hyde's (she is actually a woman AFAIK) work is also more fetish orientated.

I don't know the actual ratio of female:male of (more or well known) directors in the porn biz, but the soft fetish/soft BDSM thing seems to attract female directors.

Interesting too, that the top BDSM-novels ("9 1/2 weeks", "Story of O", "The Ties that bind") were also written by women, while a man is responsible for the amateurish Gor series.

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For example, Shaun Costello made some films using the name Amanda Barton. Was this to try and bring in female viewers or was this just because the content is very different than the films that he made under his name and the name Russ Carlson for Avon and he wanted a seperation between the two styles? Jack Williams used the name Joanna Williams for some of his films, yet none of them seem to be more oriented to the female market. Paul Thomas uses the name Judy Blue for some of his work, as previously acknowledged in this thread. Paul Thomas's work is already geared towards the couples market so it isn't to seperate a lighter style work. Is this to lure in female viewers? Possibly.

The inverse has also been true throughout the history of adult films. Female directors have taken on male names. Roberta Findlay, when working with David Darby, used the name Robert Norman. Talented photographer and director Suze Randall appears to have used the name Victor Nye when directing some films. If using female directorial names is used as a gimmick to bring in female viewers, then why did some female directors take on male names for some films. Was it due to fear that they wouldn't be taken seriously in a typically male dominated market?

There are talented female directors today, like Mason and Belladonna, who's work is definitely not on the lighter side. This obviously isn't to lure in female viewers under the guise that the work is more geared to them than the male viewing audience. Yet other talented female directors of today, like Candida Royale, make more couples oriented work. Marie Madison has made work as hard as any male director and as soft as any male director.

To get to answering the question, any good director is going to bring a bit of themself into a project and create their own style, male or female. Is using female directors a gimmick? I don't think so. A woman can direct an adult film as well as any male and bring in their own style, therefore bringing something more to the table.

I'm not sure if this post answers more questions than it raises but at least it gives more points to ponder.

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I'm pretty sure Tanya Hyde is fetish photographer Trevor Watson who's photos are included on Hotel Hyde.

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Perhaps Frank Thring is not Tanya Hyde but I'm pretty sure Tanya is a guy.

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Alright but no way Christopher Alexander can convince me he didn't direct the movies that were directed by Buffy Malibu.

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Have any of the women mentioned here been able to add anything to their movies that male directors generally don't ? It's often stated that porn is made for men , but if that's true it's not made for men by men - at least not exclusively . Damn , that thought's squirming at the back of my mind half formed and refusing to come out . Maybe later .

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The only reason that I don't know who "she" is, is that at the time that I was told that she wasn't a she, I just assumed that "she" was some guy who worked under an alias. It didn't occur to me that it could be someone who also directs under another name, so I didn't ask who "she" was.

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Patrick Collins did indeed have a clear vision of what he wanted from me as a director. He wanted a chick who would get involved with the talent (jerk cocks, suck cocks, grab tits, etc.) from behind the camera. This was something I was simply not comfortable doing. In the end, Patrick gave me the freedom to shoot and promote myself as I wanted.

Your skepticism is duly placed, Ramsey, there are many female directors who are nothing but gimmicks. I'm simply not one of them.

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Men making porn to please men -- that's gay .

Flash wrote

Edited for pornographic punctuation.

Edited by - Loraine on 4/3/2005 7:34:22 AM

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I can think of a few films in which I felt the race of the director was crucial.

-T.C.

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-T.C.

Comstock Films:Real Life, Real People, Real Sex

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So this is boredom , huh ?

A case of mainstream directorial gender at play ? Could play with the idea of Point Break directed by Katherine Bigelow , and 'assisted' by James Cameron . It's a film with a far greater feel for speed and cartoon like characterisation than anything else she's made - could it be that Jimmy had more than just a helping hand ? All the elements of his other action flicks are ready and correct if you but look ...

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So to conclude, and talking purely about Anna Span, yes I do think there is an element of gimmick about it.
I just couldn't see what the fuss was about. She was shooting the same stuff that I've seen plenty of times before, with male performers that I've seen in tons of films before.

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InPulse and ArchAngel are the only ones that immediately come to mind.

Kylie Ireland is turning out some great stuff, but I think that Bry directs the majority of their titles. Jill Kelly Productions is the same situation.

I'd be interested in any other women owned companies that direct their own stuff. Specifically if they use all female directors.

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Comstock Films:Real Life, Real People, Real Sex

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Is there a general tendency toward better production values in women directed porn?

Is there less POV and gonzo in women directed porn?

Is there less spitting in female directed porn than male directed porn?

Is there any difference among the the woman directed pron from the man directed pron at all?

All interesting things to consider.

When I see a movie shot by someone that doesn't tend to portray a mysogynistic view towards women, like Andrew Blake, Seymore Butts or Will Ryder, I notice it. So I would think I'd tend to notice a mysogenistic view portrayed by a woman director if it was there.

The same stands to reason for other aspects of a production by men or women. It would be interesting to see if there are any differences between male and female directed porn. I just think that there are too few truly woman owned and operated/directed movies to try and see any distinction at this point in time.

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It's hard for me to imagine someone other than a woman making her films (as flawed as they sometimes are). Then again, she not only directs them, but also writes the screenplays. I believe she also arranges the for the financing.

There's this one scene in 'Anatomy of Hell', where the main male character is in a bar, bragging to another man about how he's just 'destroyed' the woman that he's been sleeping with. Breillat perfectly captures how inane and hollow a man sounds when he's BS-ing his way through one of these monologues. The reality was that the woman had been manipulating this male character for several nights.

I was surprised to find out that the movie 'American Psycho' was directed by a woman. Not that the movie had the imprint of a woman's directorship all over it, but because it was so dark and disturbing. I suppose I'm showing my lack of imagination.

I've only seen two porn films directed by women. I could see no difference between these, and those directed by men. These two movies definitely weren't any better, and definitely weren't directed towards a female audience.

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The misanthropism(?) - which IMHO includes misogyny - the works of Despentes portrays, I would have contributed to a man, if I followed the traditional gender roles.

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If you want to see a medium of porn or erotica where women really rule in the extreme arena, check out some of the books. Anne Rice's Sleeping Beauty Trilogy, Pauline Reage's Story of O, and MANY other books.

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Edited by - respect on 4/9/2005 2:06:21 PM

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As for Mary Harron directing American Psycho, read the book by Bret Easton Ellis and you will see what a terrible job she did. The book is like 100 times more violent. Christian Bale did a fantastic job though.

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