I dont understand how bitches in this buissness go out and get paid to fuck on camera but yet right before or after their job,,theyll fuck for free,,maybe becase they think theyll get more work??mmm now that just plain being a hoe!!i dont understand this shit mod: Changed text to normal case - this is your second warning regarding not using all caps. Third time's the charm. Also, as has been noted, in this forum working in the porn industry does not make one a bitch, so kindly refrain from calling performers that.
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Posted - Aug 9 2007 : 9:30PM
Typing in all-CAPS is considered shouting. Please find your caps-lock key and use it with due care.
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Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03
Posted - Aug 9 2007 : 9:32PM
And the word "bitchez" is kind of, umm, frowned upon here. "women" works well for me. So does "performers". And sometimes if I am feeling really nice I call them "stars", too.
Your logic escapes me. I can get paid to do networking and the occasional computer/software repair, yet I feel free to do the same for my friends and relatives without compensation.
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Posted - Aug 9 2007 : 9:42PM
That last post didn't make a bit of sense. Was it cryptic on purpose like some kind of poem or koan? Like surreal food for thought? Not you Hardware. You type faster then me. Edited by - conquistador on 8/9/2007 9:42:44 PM
I sense an alien life form. I take comfort in Zen verse -- If you understand things are just as they are. If you do not understand, things are just as they are.
Loraine: I kind of like it in a weird way when I encounter something on the forums that just doesn't compute at all. Where it is against nature and thusly does not exist, no response is possible.
Conquistador - I enjoyed the somewhat whimsical but nevertheless perplexing Seussism apparent in the rhythm and structure. well u dont agree?ook im the only one who agrees....woahh well u dont agree?ook im the only one who agrees....woahh well u dont agree?ook im the only one who agrees....woahh (Say Oops Upside Your Head, Say Oops Upside Your Head) (Say Oops Upside Your Head, Say Oops Upside Your Head) (Say Oops Upside Your Head, Say Oops Upside Your Head)
i don't understand what exactly do you mean ? you mean women in the business should always get paid to fuck, even when it's in their "private-time" ? and when they don't get paid, they shouldn't fuck ? hey priscilla how do you handle it, i mean what about your sex in your private life ... you get paid for it
no no im just saying girls in this business waste there body when its not needed sure we get paid to go to a shoot and do our job, get paid and go home..not hang around and fuck anyone who u think will get you work..im not saying we should get paid in our private life but if ur being a whore for free for a second,doesnt make sense.
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Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03
Posted - Oct 7 2007 : 1:49PM
^^ What about if someone doesn't mind doing some of the same things they do at work only off the clock? I am very confused about your reasoning. Let's say I paint houses for a living. When I am not officially on the clock at work I am wasting my body by painting? Nobody is going to pay me to paint my own living room but I am not a whore because I do it for free. I just want it to be a different color. You can even substitute painting a friend's living room, I still don't think that constitutes whoring. Someone can have sex on camera for money or off camera for free. As long as it is their decision what is the problem? Edited by - conquistador on 10/7/2007 1:56:26 PM
I think she might be commenting on performers having sex with other industry people, like directors, producers, or photographers, with the hope that they will be hired (or recommended) by these people for future scenes. To which I have to say, how you hustle for your next job is up to you, but you don't get paid to hustle, you only get paid for jobs. I'm sure they don't regard it as "free fucking", I'd bet they look at it as an investment.
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Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03
Posted - Oct 7 2007 : 3:09PM
Thanks Kimi, I was kind of following that reasoning except for it being bad or a waste of one's body. I guess I don't see the issue. Or if I do, the arrangement is so commonplace in all sorts of jobs that it isn't noteworthy. (see Hardware's earlier post about doing computer work) If I paint your house for free and then because of doing so I get hired more often I think that works out in everyone's favor. You have a freshly painted house, I did a favor for someone, and I get increased business. The house painting analogy might not be precisely right but I used it because it is manual/physical labor that can be done by 1 person. You could substitute many types of work into a similar situation. Locksmithing, auto mechanic, whatever. A mutually beneficial arrangement isn't really whoring. Example: A man in my building owns a large truck which he uses for deliveries at his regular job. In exchange for free parking he takes construction waste and old furniture to the dump for us using the same truck as his other job. Everyone wins. It's just that in the case of porn stars they use different assets. So, I think I understand the point of the post. I just don't see how it is a big deal because it happens in different ways in all lines of work. Edited by - conquistador on 10/7/2007 3:15:17 PM
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Posted - Oct 7 2007 : 4:39PM
I'm not trying to be snarky here at all, but I wonder if Priscilla is frustrated because those other girls are getting more work? I'm not saying I know that's the case either, because I don't. I'm just wondering if that's what's going on.
If I had to guess, I'd think Priscilla might be snarky because she gets pressured to put out without payment, only promises, and she does not want promises for tomorrow, she wants money in the bank today. Performers who put out for promises offer positive reinforcement to those industry persons who might put additional pressure on Priscilla that she does not like. Thus, Priscilla does not like performers to put out for "free".
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Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07
Posted - Oct 7 2007 : 5:42PM
My guess is pornochicks use their body to get through life. In principle, it's the same thing as a professional female to use her intelligence to work her way up the ladder, rather than fuck her way up.
My body is not helping me get the 4.0 gpa I have. I believe everyone uses whatever assets they have to get through life. It doesn't matter whether that's family wealth, social status, intelligence, physical beauty, sexual appeal, or a great personality.
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Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03
Posted - Oct 7 2007 : 10:07PM
Well put, Kimi.
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Posted - Oct 7 2007 : 10:09PM
Hardware please don't criticize the talent as you will have to ban yourself. [:p)] Edited by - nietzsche on 10/8/2007 12:06:37 AM
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Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03
Posted - Oct 7 2007 : 10:11PM
And as a joke, you never know. Maybe all of your teachers are closeted Kimi Lixx fans? Maybe they notice you taking notes in their classes and think you're hot stuff and pass you unconditionally. (I am not doubting your academic work or intelligence, just trying to make a joke) This sort of favoritism was apparent in just 1 of of my university classes. My material sciences prof was undoubtedly boning one of my fellow students.
In the small amount of time I've been paying attention to the adult industry, it is blatantly obvious that a lot of people who have made names for themselves have been assisted by those they fuck off-the-clock. Seems logical to me. It's the adult industry's version of networking.
Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07
Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 10:38AM
Did'ja ever think that porn stars are people too? Maybe they enjoy sex that's not constantly interrupted and having to be posed in a certain way for the camera. Maybe they genuinely like the people they are having sex for free with. Maybe sex on the set is entirely a different thing for them than sex with a friend or someone close.And of course it doesn't hurt to get the added benefits of good jobs and more work if you are having enjoyable sex with the right people.
It makes perfect sense to the girl that gets hired over and over again because she does put out. In a declining DVD market and an over saturation of performers, I'm not surprised that girls feel like they have to step it up and put out on the side to get hired. The business is very competitive. Bottom line is you have sex for a living and there is always going to be someone willing to do more, make it dirtier, and for less money. You just have to decide at what level you are willing to compete. How long have you been in this business? xoxo Devinn mod: snipped the quote Edited by - hardware on 10/9/2007 8:25:28 AM
+1 devinnlane Not to mention that many girls that put out might actually be viewed by the directors or producers they are putting out to as a being girls that aren't just in it for the paycheck.. but actually LIKE having sex. Not to say its right or wrong.. but when you have people that you enjoy having sex with, and you have sex with them off camera, there are times when if you fit the bill of what they are looking to cast, they call you instead of someone else. Does it always happen that way? No... But you're right Devinn, it all boils down to setting your standards and sticking to them... no matter what. Sinny
I was in the biz for more than 10 years and not once did I put out for a job but on the flip side, I was asked several times when I went on mainstream castings. Edited by - Roxanne Hall on 10/9/2007 12:17:09 AM
I'm going to second Kimi's motion and offer a lifetime of beck-and-call sex to any director/producer who will guarantee me volcanic hot scene partners. Just kidding . . . Ms. Milan, haven't you heard that a woman decides whether she'll have sex with a man in the first initial minutes of meeting him? Suppose I find a director/producer/crewmember/ photographer hot and sexy? Should I go home all hot and bothered because other women like you aren't "okay" with it? Get real, honey. There are countless women in corporate America harboring crushes for the UPS guy, the computer tech kid, the boss, ... Many of these crushes end up in happy marriages, with children, pets, McMansions, etc. It's perfectly normal and acceptable for coworkers of the opposite sex to feel heat and attraction. Thank goodness we don't have ridiculous "sexual harassment policy guidelines" to follow in our industry.
Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07
Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 12:01PM
I know this is off topic but I have a question for Gabriela. Do you do dvds under a different name. I can't find you under "Gabriela Rossi" on IAFD? Thanks.
Hi Backdoorman Thanks so much for your interest ;-) I've only shot 10 scenes, most for internet-based companies. I'm in a DP scene in the upcoming "Dementia" release by Sin City. In about three weeks or so, I will have some scenes on BangBros as well. And oct 18 i will be live on danni.com on a girl/girl scene. Lots of xxx to you, gabby
okay i didnt mean to offend anyone.my point only a few got,im not meaning my point to piss everyone off.i just noticed something and wanted to see if anyone agreed..thats all
Welcome. I think it's kind of funny that you show up here, a fresh faced cool hot chick willing to chat away, and all you get is psychoanalyzed and abused because you use caps, refer to women in a non pc way, and express a slightly controversial opinion. REPENT! I guess the alternative is XXXPorntalk. where everyone can say what they like, and almost everyone is a jerk. mod: extraneous quote removed Edited by - hardware on 10/11/2007 9:08:40 PM
Per the Forum Etiquette - " Please don't quote people's entire posts - quote only relevant sections or address the person by name." Also, I have this quaint notion that grown ups should be able to read sequentially, without being reminded of what they just read in the previous post. Odd, I know, but there ya go.
Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07
Posted - Oct 11 2007 : 10:17PM
You didn't piss me off Priscilla. I hate the thought that you would never have sex without getting paid for it or getting something other than closeness and a good orgasm in return though. Try it sometime ! :)
I don't think girls who have sex with producers etc really do get any more work than girls with morals. And if they have sex without condoms etc its just plain stupid. At least when you have sex with other talent you have your tests done so you are less likely to pick up diseases etc