Absolutely enjoy your scenario, but please don't think for a second there's a real random woman involved.
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| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 |  Posted - Dec 13 2012 : 5:16PMA lot of women in real life play hard to get with guys they like in order to make themselves look more desirable. And I think it works. I've once seen a scene, where a pretty, sexy blond lady and an American guy were walking and arguing on a deserted street. He was trying to hug her and give her a kiss. But she kept pushing him away and yelling at him that he didn't really like her and that he was no gentleman, because he paid her some money to fuck her in the ass. And she said the word 'Ass' with a feeling, probably because she felt that if he truly liked her, then he would've asked for her pussy instead. They walked into a private room and undressed. This lady had a very nice, big sexy ass. And she was a real blonde too. Her pussy hair were all blond. Anal lust took over the guy, and he was all over her nice ass with his fingers and cock right away. He went straight to anal on her in the standing-doggy position. And it didn't take him long to start plunging his big dong all the way to his balls between her sexy ass-cheeks. She whimpered a little with each thrust. And he told her to relax, because he was going to be there for some time. He didn't even bother to change his position with her or give her his cock to suck. He kept banging away between her sexy ass-cheeks hard and fast for as long as he could last. Her asshole was completely relaxed and loose as a goose by the time he was finished with her. Perhaps this was her first anal ride, because she seemed a little dazed. She let this guy hug and kiss her in the end, with his cum still dripping down from her sexy ass-cheeks. I think many porn scenes would be more hot, if the sexy lady plays hard to get at first and then lets the horny guys persuade her to have sex with them. And of course, when a pretty lady gets an indecent suggestion from a guy, who also pulls on her blouse to see more of her tit, then she doesn't just say 'no' politely to him. She slaps the guy on the cheek to let him know her true feelings. [Link] |
| scenic Member 46 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Dec 16 2012 : 2:09AM Absolutely enjoy your scenario, but please don't think for a second there's a real random woman involved. [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Dec 16 2012 : 6:08AM I don't understand why making realistic porn is so worrying for you. Such porn was the standard in the early days porn. There was no such thing as Gonzo porn. It was all realistic porn stories about people at home, in the office, at work, or in some other place. And it's a fact of life that forbidden fruit is more desirable. Scientific studies have found again and again that "people find things more desirable when they are off-limits or forbidden". Here is a link where you can read more about it. I think many women know this fact, and they use it to their advantage in their relationships with men. And there is nothing wrong with using this psychological trick to make female porn stars look more desirable for porn fans. If it works, then why not use it? Edited by - Dan on 12/16/2012 6:10:12 AM [Link] |
| mike23 Member 509 Posts 7/12 | Posted - Dec 16 2012 : 3:58PM [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Dec 17 2012 : 6:07AM This whole forum is about porn, and I hope you realize this. And I've seen plenty of slapping in porn films during the sex. It was mostly guys slapping the woman. But I don't think guys are going to be up in arms if they see some women slap guys too. I don't like slapping in itself. But it's more expressive than words are. If the film is going to show how a woman rejects a guy and then changes her mind and lets him fuck her, then having her slap him would be more realistic and believable than her just saying it with words. Speaking with words requires some acting skills, whereas slapping not so much. [Link] |
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| mike23 Member 509 Posts 7/12 | Posted - Dec 17 2012 : 10:51AM [Link] |
| scenic Member 46 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Dec 23 2012 : 4:41AM A lot of women in real life play hard to get with guys they like in order to make themselves look more desirable. And I think it works. Then you went on to describe a porn scenario. I have no problem with the porn scenario, but describing it right next to a classic 'women say no if they're playing hard to get' thing means more to a woman than it does to a bloke. I'm not some lily-livered liberal, but when I see someone making the correlation between a woman saying no in real life and a woman saying no in porn I feel I have to draw attention to the fact that they're not the same. Of course many of you will be insulted, but I can take that on the chin if someone somewhere recognizes it and acts accordingly. These are things that blokes think don't really matter. But they kind of do. [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Dec 23 2012 : 11:44AM I think that porn should be related to what happens in real life for it to be interesting and exciting to see. Because fantasizing is basically imagining happy outcomes to problems and needs that you encounter in your life. People don't just fantasize randomly. Common fantasies include getting very rich, finding love, and having very good sex. I don't see why it's a problem for anyone to take something that happens in real life and make a porn fantasy out of it. Edited by - Dan on 12/23/2012 11:47:50 AM [Link] |
| scenic Member 46 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 2:44AM [Link] |
| hoochimama Deactivated User 1437 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 3:18PM However having a female character who played hard to get eventually put out isn't going to be more arousing to the average viewer because it's a porno, they already know she'll be sucking dick from the getgo. The acting in modern porn is too poor and the context too well understood for it to arouse anyone but people with a specific fetish for what is being roleplayed, the average viewer will just skip over to the good parts. Edited by - hoochimama on 1/8/2013 6:21:27 PM [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 6:28PM Most of today's sex acts in porn used to be a fetish at some point in the past. Because these sex acts were either non-existent in porn, or they were very rare. This includes anal sex, DPs, DPPs, DAPs, and even Gonzo style of porn. Porn films started out with plots and story-lines. My point is that nobody knows whether today's fetish will become tomorrow's popular sex-act or porn-style, until a few such porn films are made and tested on the audience to determine their popularity. Predicting what many people will like or not like without any testing is pure guessing. Edited by - Dan on 1/8/2013 6:28:50 PM [Link] |
| hoochimama Deactivated User 1437 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 7:15PM But we're not talking about a sex act here, we're talking about acting, in porn. I'm not saying liking it when a woman plays hard to get is a fetish, I'm saying that you need to have a fetish for it to like it acted in modern porn because modern porn acting/writing/cinematic quality is so bad that you can't suspend your disbelief to the point of ever forgetting you're gonna see her suck dick in 5 mins. I mean of all the ways a porn character could portray itself as, "hard to get" has to be the most ironic. If this was the 70s where a good Lasse Braun flick could be indistinguishable from an average movie in theater aside from the explicit sex then yeah I'd think it's hot, the acting/plot etc would be good enough and close enough to real movies for me to pay attention to it and thus be aroused by a character's portrayal. But I don't think modern porn acting/writing even matches that of the 70s, let alone catch up on the 40 years of film making since to update itself to match modern movies.AFAIK, most dudes don't follow porn stories, it's something to be skipped. And while I still believe you can make porn where a girl acting hard to get can be used to make the audience want her even more, it's not in the porn movie format where the spectator is fully aware that he's watching a pornstar who's about to get fucked. Edited by - hoochimama on 1/8/2013 7:29:11 PM [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 7:46PM There are films now that show sex happen in certain types of situations, such as sex with babysitters, with nurses, with teachers, and with bosses at work. And all of these films involve some kind of role-playing. It doesn't take much acting for a well-dressed woman to say 'No!' to a guy, who is asking for anal sex with her. And it also doesn't take much acting for the guy to offer her a reward of some kind, depending on the situation, to persuade her. The guy can keep upping the reward, until it's big enough to persuade the lady. This isn't any more complicated than acting the roles of the teacher and the student, or the patient and the nurse. And it's just as desirable in terms of people's fantasies, because all fantasies are basically about getting something that's hard to get. Why not make it explicit and show the guy have some difficulty in getting the sex that he wants, before he gets what he wants? Showing the guy have some difficulty in getting the sex that he wants is what makes the whole scene a realistic fulfillment of the guy's fantasy, when he does get the sex that he wants with the woman he wants. And when the guy in the film gets his sex-fantasy fulfilled, then the viewers who identify with him vicariously feel some satisfaction too. [Link] |
| hoochimama Deactivated User 1437 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 10:32PM On the other hand I think that a woman playing hard to get can be done well to enhance smut if it is presented in a much more convincing format than in a porn movie where you already know that's a pornstar who is going to be sucking the dude's dick in 5 minutes: Reality TV Porn. Now I don't mean crap like bangbus or allrealitypass sites or moneytalks that are just as pathetic as any other kind of porn acting, I mean something like playboytv's Foursome that in terms of production quality, presentation and possibly writing is virtually indistinguishable from "mainstream" reality tv shows(except for the occasional explicit sex). Two guys and two girls are paid 500 to go on a 24 hour date, the guys try to seduce the girls and usually either one or both of the guys get rejected and the girls end up lezzing out or just going to sleep alone. It's playboy so it's also full of naked girls doing sexy activities throughout those 24 hours to turn them and the viewer on. But one of the biggest draws of the show is precisely the dynamic between the four, the men trying to seduce the women who usually play hard to get or are completely uninterested in the men or even repulsed by them, you constantly see the girls interviewed on the side on what they think of the guys and what they did, sometimes the girls truly act like bitches and it's brutal on the men. You are usually not quite sure who the girls are in truth actually since it has alternated B/G pornstars, G/G only pornstars, glam models, playmates, b movie actress, minor celebs. So unless I recognize the girl from somewhere(could use help in my ID thread https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/playboytv-foursome-identification-thread ) I never know if the girl is actually just leading them on and won't put out or playing hard to get and I will see her fuck explicitly, and the second biggest draw for me is that even though the girls come from a variety of backgrounds(models, pornstars, actresses, tv personalities) I've often seen them break the "boundaries" of their categories such as a G/G only pornstar doing B/G on the show, explicit sex from an mtv show girl, G/G from a glam model etc). So I think you may enjoy the show since you like to see the girls act hard to get/guys struggling, and in this case it might actually be real and still be porn. Edited by - hoochimama on 1/8/2013 10:34:32 PM [Link] |
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