Woodman's best work for Private?

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Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00	Posted - Aug 6 2002 : 6:26AM OK I don't like all his movies, and his scenes can be a bit too repetitive, but still for me he's one of porn's top directors (shame about his attitude with the girls). Now that he has left Private, can you tell me what were his best DVDs for that company in your opinion? Personally I loved "African Dream", "No Sun, No Fun" and "House of Love". Other movies like "Collector" and "Gigolo" had some excellent scenes but were a bit more uneven overall. Didn't like the Pyramid series so much and have yet to view the Tatiana trilogy. [Link]
ultradamno Senior Member Silencio... 12877 Posts 2/00	Posted - Aug 6 2002 : 7:16AM The Tatiana trilogy is probably my favorite (despite Tanya Russof already having had that awful boob job), followed by the Pyramids, Indecency 2, Kruger Park (although the colors on this disc's transfer are horribly washed-out), and Sweet Lady (nee Sweet Baby) I like House of Love also, though I think it's a little uneven overall. I particularly liked the scene with the redhead, Monica Rossi. Edited by - ultradamno on Aug 6 2002 [Link]
rieekan333 Member 388 Posts 3/02	Posted - Aug 6 2002 : 7:22AM I liked The Tania Russof Story [Link]
Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00	Posted - Aug 6 2002 : 8:24AM Thank you all for your recommendations! "The Tania Russof Story" sounds interesting, a bit like a "Private Life of Tanya Russof" before its time, I love the Private Life of... series. I have also checked out the reviews here on ADT and those make me think the Indecency and Cape Town series would be good titles to add to the growing "best of Pierre Woodman" section of my DVD collection. I had seen the trailer for Indecency and was already tempted... [Link]
David X Member 128 Posts 5/02	Posted - Aug 6 2002 : 10:22AM Cape Town 1 & 2 and their companion piece Kruger Park are sentimental favorites of mine (how fun it was to track down gorgeous Diana Vincent and Cecilia Grout in the Triple X Video series!). One that won't be mentioned here, because it was released by Hustler (bought post production) is Happy Birthday, which I consider Woodman's final Private-style movie. If you read Speelie's review here you won't be able to resist getting that one. [Link]

aybesea Senior Member Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie! 1485 Posts 5/02	Posted - Aug 6 2002 : 10:51AM I know many here will not agree with me on this, but personally I don't like the Woodman stuff from Private. I think it is some of Private's weakest releases. Have you seen the Adamo or Kovi films? In my opinion they are far stronger. [Link]
DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02	Posted - Aug 6 2002 : 11:16AM Aybe, Woodman tends to be a little repetitive from scene to scene. I don't overenthuse about all the Adamo stuff, but generally I prefer Adamo and Kovi to Woodman. DenverDon [Link]
aybesea Senior Member Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie! 1485 Posts 5/02	Posted - Aug 6 2002 : 11:40AM DD, my biggest problem with Woodman is that he focuses so much on the locales of his shoots (Kruger Park, Cape Town, Riviera, etc) that the sex suffers as a result. Many of these movies feature beautiful girls, but they are totally unclothed (no sexy attire, none of the extras) and laying in grass fields. I'm sorry, but I'll take Laura Angel, dressed to the 9's in well lit, indoor venues (e.g. Italian Flair) over this outdoor, shadowy, hiking attire look, any time! My second problem with Woodman is, as you put it Don, the repetitive nature of the sex. The same formula, different country. Anyway, rant completed. Peace... aybesea [Link]
Speelie Senior Member Fort Collins, CO 1191 Posts 5/01	Posted - Aug 6 2002 : 11:45AM It's funny Joey, I have almost the opposite view, I really enjoyed Collector and Gigolo (part 1, but not so much part 2) as two of Woodman's best, but found House of Love and No Sun, No Fun to be some of his weaker work (I only got Africa Dream recently, and my opinion isn't set yet). So you may want to take the following cautiously, but for what it is worth: I really enjoyed both parts of Indecency and both parts of Madness, and these are probably my favorite Woodman movies, along with Bitches 2 (but not Bitches 1). And as David kindly pointed out, I have publicly stated my fondness for Happy Birthday, which combines many pretty girls, hard sex, and gorgeous Ibiza locations (I have learned since I wrote the review a year ago that the movie was shot on Ibiza, not at Puerto Vallarta, despite being made at almost the same time as Madness, November 1999). [Link]
Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00	Posted - Aug 6 2002 : 1:18PM aybesea wrote: I know many here will not agree with me on this, but personally I don't like the Woodman stuff from Private. I think it is some of Private's weakest releases. Have you seen the Adamo or Kovi films? In my opinion they are far stronger. Click to expand Er... I've seen a couple of older Kovi Private movies ("Julia" and "Sex Slider Shag-O-Rama") and they were quite disapointing. One or two outstanding scenes in each but too uneven overall. I traded "Julia" but kept "Sex Slider Shag-O-Rama" just for the scorching sex scene in the car! I have some early Private Adamo stuff on my "viewing waiting list" (so many DVDs so little time...) and I loved the Euro movie "Planet Sex" which was directed by Anita Rinaldi but with Adamo playing a major role in the team, as her assistant director I think. But from the little I've seen of his Private stuff, there seems to be much artsy coloured lighting and slo mo, whereas in Planet Sex you had artsy coloured lighting and slo mo BUT with very kinky and hot sex as well. I think what appeals to me in Woodman's directing is his visual style and the way he frames the scenes, he seems to have a very natural gift to film a scene in a way that makes the girl(s) and the sex look the best. I'm a very visual kind of guy I don't care much about a story or scenario. But I do appreciate the exotic locations, nice change from the same boring old sofas we see in so many gonzo movies... [Link]
Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00	Posted - Aug 6 2002 : 1:22PM Speelie wrote: It's funny Joey, I have almost the opposite view, I really enjoyed Collector and Gigolo (part 1, but not so much part 2) as two of Woodman's best Click to expand Well I did not say they were bad just that I didn't enjoy every single scene. The first scene in Gigolo was excellent and the scene with Mercedes in Collector blew me away I have Madness (part one) stashed somewhere, must see it soon. [Link]
Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00	Posted - Aug 6 2002 : 1:41PM David X wrote: One that won't be mentioned here, because it was released by Hustler (bought post production) is Happy Birthday, which I consider Woodman's final Private-style movie Click to expand You mean Brazilian Snake (haven't seen it yet) is not like his Private movies? In what way? [Link]
qrop Member 163 Posts 8/01	Posted - Aug 7 2002 : 12:09AM Joey if you are able to appreciate Pierre Woodman's work in all his facets, you should check out Superfuckers 9 and 3. [Link]
fannatastic Member England 212 Posts 4/01	Posted - Aug 7 2002 : 6:16PM Dunno about DVDs, Woodman's best work for Private were the magazine shoots. The all-Woodman issues are the best sex mags ever produced, IMO. A lot better than the earlier ones and ten times as good as the recent ones without him. Only Expose came close. fannatastic [Link]
cyberpimp Member nz 10 Posts 4/02	Posted - Aug 7 2002 : 10:17PM Pierre Woodman's stuff has always been a bit hit or miss with me. I've seen most of his releases under the Private Gold label and found a lot of the sex far too mechanical and cold. Having said that he has directed some very good flicks. fav.s include Fatal Orchid 2, Indecency 1 & 2, Madness 1 & 2 and the Riviera 1 & 3, haven't seen 2. What about that dude who directed Living in Sin? He seems to have only directed 1 film but I thought he did a bloody good job. Best Private Gold I'd seen in a long time. [Link]

David X Member 128 Posts 5/02	Posted - Aug 8 2002 : 9:36AM Joey: I wouldn't want to discourage anyone from seeing the Brazilian Snake movies, which are very enjoyable. But the first thing you'll notice is the Hustler dubbing in what might politely be called American colloquial (in place of Woodman's native French): this shows not only the target audience but a radical shift in Woodman's style. Condoms, lesbo, no more camera-ogling or multi-male on one girl, etc. Also the scenes tend to be claustrophobic and set-bound compared to Private. Others don't mind this so much, but I turned to Private in the first place to get away from American porn, so the Americanization of Pierre Woodman is a deep betrayal to me. [Link]
Comet Man Member Boston 96 Posts 4/01	Posted - Aug 8 2002 : 10:56AM David X wrote: Cape Town 1 & 2 and their companion piece Kruger Park are sentimental favorites of mine (how fun it was to track down gorgeous Diana Vincent and Cecilia Grout in the Triple X Video Click to expand Another fan of Diana and Cecilia. They've got to be two of the best looking Private actresses, with and without makeup. What other DVD's have you found them on? The actress list on Private's site just doesn't seem very accurate. I have Kruger Park and Best Russians and they're in both :-) I'd like to know which DVD Cecilia is in with that cute Swiss Miss outfit on the cover of Best Russians though. I've seen the JPEGs of some photoshoot, but a photoshoot usually comes from a movie... [Link]
David X Member 128 Posts 5/02	Posted - Aug 8 2002 : 8:24PM Comet Man: the listings in IAFD are mostly correct (just substitute Triple X 32 for Triple X 11 in Diana's). Their scene together in Triple X 15 is in the Private Zodiac DVD. Cape Town 2 and Kruger Park are the only features they did, I believe, and the girls probably took the same train back to Russia. Weren't they beautiful though? (Can't remember seeing Cecilia with pigtails in that Swiss Miss outfit in any of the Triple X vids, but it's possible yet in the Stories 13 which I haven't seen.) [Link]
Wally Senior Member 1821 Posts 8/01	Posted - Aug 8 2002 : 9:49PM Cecilia's scene from Triple X 14 can be found in Lust Treasures 3 (DVD) [Link]
David X Member 128 Posts 5/02	Posted - Aug 9 2002 : 7:46AM Hey, Wally: do you think it's your Datze in the new Castings? Wouldn't that be something! [Link]
Wally Senior Member 1821 Posts 8/01	Posted - Aug 9 2002 : 4:18PM You mean Castings 38? ...yeah, that would be nice! but could be the fake Datze too. You know the one from The Gigolo. If is our Datze I hope she is in the last scene of the video with Woodman giving her a turbo treatment up her nice, pretty ass :) [Link]
David X Member 128 Posts 5/02	Posted - Aug 9 2002 : 9:22PM Yes, but first she must do the virgin bit and then I will feel that my wish has been fully realized. I understand Woodman's contractual obligations to Private ceased in July, so we may not be seeing anymore Woodman Castings. [Link]
Wally Senior Member 1821 Posts 8/01	Posted - Aug 10 2002 : 12:28AM Not, Pierre Woodman is still in charge of The castigs series, he said that even after leaving Private he couldn't see anybody else doing this series in Particular. Sentimental reasons I guess. [Link]
NuTTy_BuDDy Member 608 Posts 12/00	Posted - Aug 10 2002 : 3:51AM My favorites are Indecency 1 & 2 but after a lot of views, I think it's safe to say 2 is weaker than 1, but it's still a Great flick. I still like The Collector, Sex Therapy, Bitches 2, Superfuckers #9, Pyramid Trilogy (Especially #2) & Madness 1. I still haven't seen a lot of Pierre Woodman films but more than I've seen from anybody else. [Link]
ultradamno Senior Member Silencio... 12877 Posts 2/00	Posted - Aug 10 2002 : 4:22AM I think it's safe to say 2 is weaker than 1 Click to expand The "your mileage may vary" principle in action. I think 2 is much hotter than 1 (the sex in which I found to be comparitively mannered). [Link]

Comet Man Member Boston 96 Posts 4/01	Posted - Aug 12 2002 : 11:03AM Wally wrote: Cecilia's scene from Triple X 14 can be found in Lust Treasures 3 (DVD) Click to expand FYI, this scene is also in The Best Russians. Nice scene :-) I wish private would stop duplicating scenes in their compilations..or at least say where the scenes are from in the compilations they put out (in the info on their web site so you can check before you buy)-: [Link]