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Kperv
The Cuddler


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Posted - Sep 28 2004 : 4:01PM
The subject is not exactly new, but with all these series featuring barely legal female newcomers getting banged by a bunch of often older porn studs, isn't it about time for one where a group of seasoned porn girls give some young hopeful guys a real test drive?

With the "How do I break into porn" questions and the College Invasion series, there doesn't seem to be a major shortage of willing potentials prepared to work for pretty low wages for a chance to prove themselves able performers.

I could just imagine the basic formula:
Two to five women take on one guy per scene.
The women take turns at his cock or mouth while the others make do with rubbing themselves off on his other limbs or torso.
When the scene is done the lucky victim should be practically glistening with pussy juice.

If a few of the guys can't get wood or find themselves unable to get off without pounding their pud, do like Chico Wang and shoot for a bonus scene or internet content, or if it's really bad, the director (female natch') could send the dismal failure home with a crisp $10 bill for bus fare.

I wasn't sure who would be the best director but her return to ADT reminded me that Devinn Lane is also a director. I'm sure she could pull it off.
If it's not the type of stuff Wicked would be interested in, what about Renee Pornero who recently hinted at a possible future directing gig?

Edited cause me no spell so good.

Edited by - Kperv on Sep 28 2004

valjean4876
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Posted - Sep 28 2004 : 6:54PM
Damn, I'm moving to LA.


I want to be "broken in."

picman
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Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass.
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Posted - Sep 28 2004 : 7:35PM
I think it's a fine idea, but I'm not sure that throwing multiple women at a young and inexperienced boy would amount to anything interesting. Let older veteran porn stars break in newbies by dominating them. Imagine someone like Tiffany Mynx let loose on an 18 yr old. It's also a natural for the burgeoning core of woman directors. Jewel, Kylie, Mason (Why is PXP cornering the market on female direction?), Tina Tyler, Su, Domina X et al could pioneer the new genre.
-Kelly-
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Posted - Sep 28 2004 : 10:39PM
It's a good idea in theory. I don't know good the execution would be. The ball is somewhat all ready in play though, with the website bethamask.com gaining popularity.

One thing is for sure though. Pornographers need to start exploring (seemingly) innovative ideas like this one because right now everyone is just doing what everyone else is doing. It's led to a creative vaccuum.


Kelly


Edited by - tscfan317 on 9/28/2004 10:42:38 PM

Chico Wang
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Posted - Sep 29 2004 : 4:40AM
Kperv, the problem is that this becomes a monumental waste of time and money, trying out these new guys. I actually have two guys that I use regularly that are both 22 years old but I've been with them from day one and seen them develop.

The problem is I don't really like using new guys because it's a scene killer. Most of the times, they either struggle through a scene or can't get it up at all or get spongey and you have to take 10 minute breaks for every minute of worthless footage.

And the egos, jesus christ, are just horrendous. I shoot alot of Internet content where I'll use these new guys for BJ scenes but that doesn't always correlate to a good fuck scene.

I tell alot of these new ego-ridden guy that they should learn from Jim Laine or Andre Madness how to fuck because they won't be able to hang on my video shoots. However, if they're adamant, I could usually scare them off by saying if they fail (because they tell me they never do), I will post the entire scene on the Internet.

There's nothing worse than a guy suddenly fucking very robotic and you can tell they've got their eyes closed and silently whispering in their heads "Please Dick, don't lose wood. Just hang in there for another 20 seconds. Please don't lose wood. Please don't lose wood."

Problem is, you can't be too mean to these newbies cause a few of them out of the 100 out there may be the next Michael Stefano or Everhard.

Chico

 
Chico Wang
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Posted - Sep 29 2004 : 4:42AM
The guys on BetheMask are established pornstars.
TonyC
Comstock Films

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Posted - Sep 29 2004 : 8:18AM
This continues to be a complete puzzle to me.

Granted, Chico probably shoots more scenes in a week than I have in my entire career, (Chico probably shoots more footage in a week than I have in my entire career!) but we have never, not even once, had a problem with a guy not being able to get it up.

What the fuck are you all doing in Chatsworth that makes it so hard for a fellow to get a boner when he's got a beautiful young woman in front of him legs akimbo?

-T.C.

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Sep 29 2004 : 8:25AM
Oh yeah.

I think the basic premise is ripe for sure. I've been spending a lot of time lurking on forums inhabited by sexually voracious women in their 30s-50s who like nothing better than a 20something fucktoy. The experienced older woman/inexperienced younger man dynamic is a lot more interesting than the converse, and far more subversive.

If men really knew what women wanted...

-T.C.

dumblonde
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Posted - Sep 29 2004 : 11:31AM
I wonder if the wood problem has something to do with time constraints and ambiance on the sets. From most BTS, it seems to be anything but a sexually charged environment, I mean a lot of them don't even know who they're booked to fuck that day.
I like Kperv's vision.

I looked at BeTheMask.com and swear I think I recognized Mark Davis in a mask. All the 'regular' guys seem to have big dicks too. What's the deal?

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Sep 29 2004 : 12:08PM
About a year ago I got an X-rent account and tried to get myself up to speed on video porn (I hadn't watched any in about 10 years.) Sadly, the only thing I saw that surprised me was the BTS footage – and I wasn't surprised in a good way!

No director that I know would let that shit fly on their sets, most especially not for a love scene. I know I wouldn't want to fuck someone, not even Chatsworth's finest hotties, while some hanger-on makes rabbit ears behind the soundman's/director's/my head.

-T.C.

Kperv
The Cuddler

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Posted - Sep 29 2004 : 1:03PM
That's what I was suggesting. But fun mild domming along the lines of Pussy Whipped #1&2, not degradation or S&M stuff.
I've already seen Renee play the aggressor in a fun way in front of the camera. I'm sure Devinn would do it well too.


I don't doubt the atmosphere on many, or perhaps even all, sets is 'hard' on a newbies ability to maintain an erection.
If it's at all possible, it might be worth trying to change that a little. Having a bigger male talent pool should be good for everyone except perhaps the guys who are already in there.

I snipped some text leaving what I personally think would be the biggest threat to my wood if I were to attempt a career in porn.
We've been told it takes an experienced woodsman to get a good scene out of a rookie girl who turns out to be a 'dead fuck'.
Using experienced female performers who should know quite well how to keep the guy's pecker up, might go a long way towards getting good scenes out of guys who don't quite realise what they are in for.

It shouldn't be impossible to shoot scenes that, when edited, look like the guys are 'broken in' when in reality they are being eased into it. Surely there is an element of acting in porn.

Sounds like one way to weed out the insecure ones. OTOH it might turn someone who would otherwise have turned in a decent performance into a nervous wreck.
Somehow I just knew you would.


Anyway, I'm not claiming to have any idea what it really takes to shoot good porn. It's just a rough idea of something that I would definitely check out if someone were to pick it up and give it a go.

Chico Wang
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Posted - Sep 29 2004 : 4:59PM
Tony, it's one thing to be able to fuck one on one scenes with a girl. Nearly every guy can pull it off, even the Minion on a good day.

It's a whole 'nother story when you put out the rigors of DPs and multiple guy or multiple girl scenes.

I don't give guys one on one scenes unless they do the others for me.

Chico

TonyC
Comstock Films

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Posted - Sep 29 2004 : 5:18PM
Well this is refreshing to hear. From some of the posts seen in response to the perenial "How about some new male faces?" threads, you'd think the capacity to achieve an erection in the presense of a nubile woman was a rare gift.
I've shot DP scene, and other threesome combos and still never had wood problems. Maybe I've just had a run of good luck; as I said, the sample isn't that large.

And besides, you're the one who has to pay the rent doing it your way, not me. If you've got a roof over your head, health insurance and a rainy day fund, and you're proud of what you do, I can only declare your approach an unqualified success!

I still don't think people should make rabbit ears behind the sound guy's head. Hell, I don't think those idiots should even be on the set.

-T.C.

Renee
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Posted - Sep 29 2004 : 10:35PM
From watching Behind-the-scenes stuff, I'd say about half the time it looks like there's something approaching a professional atmosphere on the set. The other half of the time, it looks like the director/cameraman/male performers are like a bunch of guys joking around at a sports bar. They don't give the impression that what they do should be taken too seriously, cause they sure don't feel that way about it.

Occasionally, I've enjoyed watching POV scenes, not because I search them out (certainly not because I imagine myself to be the male holding the camera), but simply because A) there's a more intimate feeling to the footage, being as there's no one else around except the director and the actress and B) the director has to actually talk to the actress, being that his buddies aren't around for him to shoot the breeze with.

Chico Wang
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Posted - Sep 29 2004 : 10:46PM
Tony, do me a favor. If these guys are good in front of your camera and open up the positions and have character, let me know. I'd use them too. I'm always up for new talent, male or female.

I stick with my main guys at all times. The new guys I test out on Internet shoots. In nearly every case, the new guys simply can't give me what I want. Too robotic, too much thinking, too woodless, whatever.

Chico

 
Light Up
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Posted - Sep 30 2004 : 4:41AM
I like this fantasy,
I'd identify with it, a guy being 'initiated' like in 'The Graduate.'
The erotic thing being him being shown sex by a woman/women,
rather than him taking the lead and ruling.
Maybe it's too tender a subject for hardcore. Or requires acting.

It's quite a selfish fantasy I guess to want to lie back and be pleasured by women without making any moves (because he wouldn't know any)

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Posted - Sep 30 2004 : 6:39AM
I wish we'd had the internet when I was 20.
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