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| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | Recently I came across a XXX film company called BELLASA FILMS. I think the idea is to be another "for women" style of filming. There was some one else doing this I think in the late 90's or early 2000. Forget her stage name. Any how, from what I saw..a few films..BELLASA FILMS films look like mainstream films with the sex uncensored. Where they do use some camera filming artistry/technique you see in Hollywood films. You can see they tried. More so than a TUSHY, BLACKED (who do have a higher standard than the typical 2 man crew style of a Bang Bros or DOG FART). The actress also look like they either are very skilled or were told to use more hip movement, not to talk during the sex like they were having a conversation (most XXX), to breath, not to use cookie cutter list of sex positions, and the stories make sense (though, in one not bullet proof..could have been tweaked for more realism..rushed into the sex a little..).. Candida Royale...that's the name of the "for women" director...but she did videos I think not films... If anything...I'd love to see them or other upcoming "for women films" start to use body makeup and SFX "tools" to achieve a look (e.g. simulate female ejaculate by injecting anal lube into her vagina during a pause in filming...continue filming as she's pretending to cum..she squeezes a large flow...that runs down her thighs... and the body makeup for creating the look of blood during spirited sex as she claws his back or digs into his arms....or to creat bruising where he hald onto her legs tight...happens..). How about some basic stunt 101 training/camera angles? When they do "rough sex" so they don't actually have to make contact with porn chick's face--which I'm sure they would prefer. Or some pink to the ass during spanking scenes to make it appear as if he spanked herder than he did...do some audio work...sfx tweaking to amp up the volume of the spank...etc. Easy to do. Just not done yet..that I'm aware of.. [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Is there a reason why you need a different thread for this? |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | Add the camera work...is usually some artistry behind it. Not the usual "put camera on table...ok guys...go at it....CUT". Trying to make films that looked like mainstream films but with actual sex put in. Which has been what I've been looking to see. Other camera work/directing they did was to not keep the camera zoomed in between their legs. They wouldn't give you the close-up's still "the right time". They'd show the views of a vagina from a camera angle used filming mainstream films (e.g. from the top at an angle). And the stories usually made some sense. Most of the times they don't. Sex comes too quickly. No tease. If I didn't know better the woman behind BELLASA FILMS is Candida Royale. :) Something else this company does that I haven't seen done with other studios is...they tell the girl not to talk like a XXX chick typically does. Or to simply not say anything and only moan. As we see in mainstream erotic films. Love to see more companies like BELLASA FILMS...companies that attempt to make a "film" instead of the "shot on the spot video live cam approach". With the camera always zoomed in. Yes there's a market for that kind of camera work. I'd just like to see more XXX that looked more like a mainstream film with above average direction with scrips that work...has enough tease to lead up too the sex...etc. Edited by - BDD on 7/10/2020 1:16:23 PM Edited by - BDD on 7/10/2020 2:22:38 PM |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | What's changed is better photography. Lighting. Girls are willing to gape and prolapse. ATM. Guys...for some reason are "coming to work" practically spent. When it's time for the money shot...we get some build up..then the guy just puts out 2 drops. :) Back in the early 90's and before the guys had cup fulls. All the A-listers. Tom Byron, Randy Spears, TT Boy.Randy West...etc. What happened here??? HEH... And something else...I've mentioned it before. Why aren't they using any SFX? Again...just lazy??? They just want to film and leave? So easy and cheap to attach a trube to the side of the dude's dick with a droplet bulb attached filled with some white liquid, hidden from the camera view. When it's time SQUEEZE. Likewise they could pause the camera...squirt some white lube into the actresses vag...start rolling again...she squeezes as she's having anal and it looks like GIRL CUM...CHEAP...every porn set has lube... ...let that drop out and run down her thighs while in doggie... ...don't wipe away sweat...some of us find sweat sexy... .."moan/scream coaching" (yeah I mentioned this in another thread)...some girls know how to fake it well or do sound that good naturally. Others don't. Need help or a "moan/scream over". :) Why not?? ..Moans..could they not ask the girls to react as soon as his dick touches their vag or buttholes? Then gradually moan/scream louder the deeper he goes? Slow down the thrusts...they're rushing it... ...some pornstars talk too much e.g. Tori Black. Beautiful ..great bod...but talks too much when she should be moaning/screaming IMHO...takes you out of it... little things.. |
| AngryPirate Senior Member 3210 Posts 8/17 | "Some of us find sweat sexy", "some pornstars talk too much". Great but you'll find some people are of the opposite view so perhaps you could add more to your argument for it to come across as compelling? Can you demonstrate that not wiping sweat away and that having a pornstar who doesn't "talk too much" will see a more profitable product? Bellasa evidently knows how to run a business so you will need to put some hard numbers in front of them to show what you want to be representative of "for women" and why it would benefit changing their production model. |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | Nothing wrong in my book...to fake it if it ELEVATES what we see. Have certain girls coach other girls on how to do a sexy moan/scream. Some women do it better and more naturally. Some girls are just "GOOD" at giving an actual BJ vs just "head". Some girls know to roll their hips. Or raise it in the air to show they're orgasming. Real or not (very few do this). Or, tell the girls to sync the moan volume to the penetration (as much as they can...have the guy slow the thrusts...the deeper he goes the louder she moans). Little things like that. Obviously..or at least it looks like...they just wing it. On some videos they actually bark out the commands as they're fucking. Which I think takes the heat out of the scene. e.g. True Anal w/ Mike Adrano. Could he not tell her what he wants her to do BEFORE filming? These are simple wants that aren't done because no one wants to make the effort. Why not make it their vision to make better quality porn? If all it takes is slowing down his "jack hammer thrusts"? In real life women don't like it when you start off pumping her at light speed. These guys today look like they only have one speed :) MOST. No rhythm. No beat. (e.g. thrusting in 3sec then pause 1.5s once in pull out 3s...repeat..then gradually speed it up to where the entry "speed" is 1s keeping the 1.5s pause when in deep 1s out). Why don't the girls cup their boobs and pinch their nipples when being fucked? They just lay there arms motionless pretty much. Grasp some bed sheets to say he's in deep. Girls like Tori Black...talks too much during...should sound like she's been jogging...a little winded...hear her breathing..even she could use coaching. A "pornstar". Romi Rain too... Mainstream actors get a lot of coaching for their films as we know (voice work, fitness, accents..) why not XXX "actors" even if a little. |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | There's almost never any lead-in to the sex. There's no TEASE before the sex. Or any reason given why she would possibly let the guy fuck her or even let him touch her. For some reason whoever suggests the story forgets to create a way to tie what was happening to the sex. There's no lead-up/tease before the sex. Just happens SUDDENLY. And in situations that make no sense. e.g. Step-sis video. Hot shapely step-sis is laying on floor playing video game wearing skimpy thong bikini. What are the chances of that? :) Already her ass is exposed for her step-bro who immediately sees and starts touching her ass. Instead of flipping out she offers to give him a BJ if he lets her go back to the game after. Made no sense. NO TEASE thus no heat. Would have been easy for them to start with a few short 5 second scenes. To lead up to the sex. e.g. SCENE 1 (3-5 seconds0)...shot of sis on floor in short-shorts which would still reveal the roundness of her butt enough. SCENE 2--he's in kitchen and she walks in to get snack wearing a short skirt...reaches for cup in cupboard revealing her ass again or even that she forgot to wear panties...he's put off and now a tiny bit aroused though he knows he shouldn't and quickly walks out. SCENE 3 (5 second--Step-bro is laying in bed thinking about his sis's ass, can't believe he is and starts jerking off. SCENE 4--3-5s...he walks by her bedroom that night and casually peers in seeing her rom light on is cocked to see her topless then to see her removing her panties..he quickly continues down the hall to not get caught...but he was. She knew he was there. He goes to bed then is awakened by sis straddling him...he said WHAT ARE YOU DOING??? She tells him I KNEW YOU WERE Watching...she starts grinding on him..he can no longer resist...SEX. TUSHY does this. Girl walking on street alone. Next scene she's in car with guy. Then in his place fucking. Never said she was a hooker. Or they WOULD SAY she was out for a good time..walking alone on a street at night and bumps into big black guy. He invites her to his place and they FUCK. Perfect strangers. Not afraid of being sexually assaulted or killed. Lone woman going with stranger. BLACKED RAW and TUSHY RAW videos. There's nothing RAW about them. Just that they only use one light source for the video. Other than that it's no different than any video with 2 people going at it. And how is the girl "BLACKED"? Was the idea that this black dude would always have a BBC? IF THAT was the hook then why not stress it? Instead the white pornstars act like taking the BBC was nothing for them. They should be ACTING like its was a struggle by squirming, grabbing some bed sheet or pillow..camera focusing on her fists...see her cringing..then finish with her curled up with one hand over her pussy...She tries to stand up but can't..but still grins to say she ended up loving it. All studios need a HOOK. RAW..ideas..girl blindfolded and told she and this ...her BF...might go to a private room and fuck. He leads her blindfolded into rom. She assumes it's his condo suite. They fuck. Good sex. and as they are about to finish...3/4 of the way..he removes the blindfold and she's shocked at first to find there are 12 old guys watching...she partly wants to run away but can't loving the sex. Once you start hard to stop...She has a 2nd thought and does try to escape..but his bodyweight pins her as he continues to fuck her...she goes back and forth. not wanting to be watched yet doesn't want him to stop... Has to be RISK in a RAW video. Something most girls wouldn't normally do...e.g. sex on the hood of a car in a parking garage. Sex in a park. Sex during a party trying hard not to be heard or seen. --in all videos there ALWYS has to be known that there is a RISK and that she DOESN"T want to be caught. ....Sex in the hall of a hotel .....around a corner...adding the recorded sound of kids and a mom in the hal from another time ...to make it appear kids are walking that way...he puts one hand over her mouth and continues fucking her ass... ...no tease and nothing RAW about TUSHY/BLACKED RAW videos that I've seen... |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | Seems to me porn "writers/producers" have a general idea of what they want. They get a good start telling the story (e.g. TUSHY) but there's no tie in to the sex that makes any real world sense. NO girl or woman is going to give in so easily. Keep it simple. SOmetimes they give the porn actors too many lines. Aak for too much "acting ablity" most XXX people don't have. From really bad to passable. Just keep the stories simple and to the point. e.g. neighbour perv's hot next door neighbour. Starts daydreaming...that's when the sex happens. Sex positions need to connect. A to B to C...etc. Most sex today is a mess. No tie from the BJ to the doggie...from one area of her body to another. Postions need to relate...Be like writing a story with the middle parts all out of order. One paragraph having nothing to do with the next... All we see today are pron people willing to do. Very few are "good". They just DO. No passion. No chemistry between the two "actors". Like a BYN exam. Robotic. |
| WillCle216 Senior Member I like porn and the Golden Age of Porn 1947 Posts 9/21 | LustCinema and X Confessions from Erika Lust Also, Like Deeper.com Also, MissaX and All HerLuv Edited by - WillCle216 on 2/15/2022 4:02:10 PM |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | Could they not use mainstream film "sex" filming as an example? A "map"? e.g. kissing from the feet, up the inside of the leg to the pussy.....never losing ocntact with thee partner. No normal volume talking during hte sex--she should only be maoning and screaming...if she does say anyting it should be under her breath....souding like she ran 25 miles and is slightly winded....IMmmm Cummm ming...puff puff... Should be sex coaches in porn just as there are voice coaches in mainstream for accentss....teaching some girls how to moan, to graducaly moan louder the deeper he goes...etc. Any how....thanks for the recommendations... |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | When pornstars had technique...today there's only a hanful...Kissa Sins, CHerry Kiss, Sheena Shaw.... Let fans win a chance to direct a film....submit stories...simple ones..."day dream". "...hot babysitter caught masturbating after kids asleep...figuring parents wouldn't be home so soon..."....so many ideas that "could happen"... |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | Might have mentioned this but...Why "check list style sex/in a rush"??? ...by "check list sex" I mean there's no connection between a BJ and anal. They just jump from one position to the next as if checking off positions the "director" wants to see in his video. And why the "one speed chumps"? Could they not at least do it in 3 speeds? Ramp up to "fuck her brains out"? 3 volume levels of moan/scream? SOme do but don't sync it with the the thrusting going 100MPH immediately. :) Gradually build up speed... Found one company that DOES think about their plots. Original and all of their video plots make sense. PURE TABOO. And the sex is above average...not the usual style. There is also camera technique....like Bellesa Films...difference is BF drops the ball maybe quarter of the time...there's a story then snaps into GONSO--typical porn. They only don't do anal/gape/prolapse yet...don't use white lube (or hand lotion..etc.) to fake girl cum so that when they girls say they're about to cum they can push out a cup full...ODD it isn't being done. We see some dudes cum...why not the girls?? Just need to make the effort. Have lube on set all the time... Like to see attempts at camera technique...cinematography...e.g. as she's about to cum camera goes to her hands as she grabs hands full of bed sheets, body tightens up, she raises her hips off the bed and slightly quivers (shakes). Then drops back onto the bed exhales. Fake girl cum flows out of her pussy. If it wasn't already during the sex. Why not let us see them sweat? Her eye makeup run down her face like in real life... Why do spanks if she isn't reacting to each spank...timing her screams or moan with the spank... Could easily fake "parents in the next room" with pre-REC audio...having her cover her mouth during sex with her own hand or pillow... Better thought in casting--AJ Applegate can look like a teen with less makeup. Play to that. No talking like a porn chick during...as a matter a fact they shouldn't be talking. Should only be saying words like: harder, faster, slower, that's good, deeper. "i havent done much anal" ACT like, A good story or sporting event is when there are ups and downs. No fun watching Mike Tyson kill his opponent in 10.5sec...no challenge. Same with good sex. Ask them to ACT like it's a "challenge" to take Price Yshua in both holes..more so the ass. When the head of his dick touches her ass tell her to imagine a PRICKLY cactus...jump a little...then try again..etc. The porn actors in the 80's early 90's tried "harder". Guys came to work with cup fulls. :) Today most are dry LOL!! Might need to fake "Guy cum " too...cum should be dripping down their chins, then necks...should be "painting their faces"...heh.. |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 |
Why other companies don't do this is just out of pure laziness. SIMPLE. Costs nothing but 5 seconds. Every porn "set" has lube. Let us see Bella Rolland squeeze loads of lube out of her vainga....letting it flow down the isnides of her thighs when she's in doggie.... ...when a porn chick is maturbating...let us see the puddle on the table or floor under her. DON'T clean it up. Messy is good. ....use some white syrup she can hold in her mouth...half a cup full...then start filming again...she lets it spill down her chin onto her boobs. We assume he actually came to work with cum. And not dry. Like most guys today. Make the EFFORT!1 Companies can do better.... e.g. BLACKED, BLACKEDRAW--what's the point of using those names if they arent going to use the expected "hook"? e.g. the stereotype of BBC. Have the chicks ACT like they are afraid. LIke they are sturuggling at first to git in their dicks. Act like it hurts a little in the beginning. Have them say "...I can't do it...". Have them back away and put one hand over their pussy pretending to be in pain...then she tries again, relaxes more....LOVES IT! At the end of the video either have her curl up into a ball with a hand over her sore pussy....or have her try standing but can't...falls back on the bed with a big gin/pain... ....and BLACKEDRAW...what is "RAW" about the videos...they're just intrracial videos using a flashlight for light. :P Ther ehas to be something "raw" about the story. e.g. sex in the hall of a hotel with her constantly trying to cover up and run away OR sex in the backroom of a bar...again with her acting super embarassed almost in tears...sqirming...and loving it...at first covering up her boobs and pussy...acting super reluctant. OR film a party going on--guy takes host in the kitchen...one hand over her mouth the whole time or have 2 people in another room acting like her parents....maybe film the footage before hand and splice it in...Sex in a nightclub stall...of the ladies bathroom...his hand over her mouth as we hear othe rwomen in the bthroom...etc. |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | Recently noticed more of Mick Blue's BAM VISIONS videos....how he's openly showing us how he's injecting "Spunk" into their holes. Both. With Gia Paige...to fake Girl Cum...they did a good job. Like to see that REGULARLY. And with Jill Kassidy as I mentioned to fake Creampies. Does this mean "Creampies" are all faked? Using a type of small "pump/tube" devive that pumps in what looks like lube ...Mick calls it "Spunk". If so why not at the same time tell US that the chick is cumming? e.g. when she says "...I'm cumming...". Why not squirt some "Spunk in her vagina before filming or continuing to film...start filming....she says "I'm comming " again and this ttime squeezes out a laod of white gooo!1 :) I'm sure Mick Blue has done it in many other of his videos for his label BAM VISIONS. Why other companies aren't doing this....Laziness. Don't want to be bothered making the effort... Costs nothing!! :) Sells more videos...they make more money... |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | There needs to be actual "directors" in more porn productions. Less than a handful of studios look like they do (e.g. Pure Taboo, Bellesa Films...). Most of the time there is "direction" but there's no "director". Someone that knows how to add prodcution value. A little "acting" and make sure there is at least a simple story that makes sense . Not go from a film with a story that suddenly jumps into GONZO. Someone who make sure they inject "Spunk" into the porn chick's pussy and ass at the right time (if to fake Girl cum when she says she's about to cum)...has a vision of how he or she wants the girl to look when she orgasms (e.g. raise hip off bed after she said she's about to cum then have her squeeze the "spunk" (white lube) out letting ti flow out half a cup worth...or down her thighs if in doggie... How often dp we see pr jear gor;s sau they're about to cum and nothing flows out?? Dry. Why bother saying "I'm cummming..." at all if no one is going to make the effort to slip in some white lube? If she isn't wet or can't cream on cue? Or....if they girls are going to say "...treat me like a whore..." h ae the guys say things to demean them. Things that would get guys slapped silly. Or put the girls almost to tears. A little "acting"...we're not hoping for Oscar worthy acting but an attempt. Tension--make the guys work for it a little. A quick 5 second scene of her rejecting him. Do a few. Or a few 4-10 sec tease scenes (1. wiggle hips. 2. bend over to reveal cleavage Scene 3. hint of butt crack....Scene 4 he walks by her open door she forgot to close and was undressing. ..he gets a glimpse but doesn't want to be caught and quickly moves on...etc. THEN to the sex as he sneaks into her room when kids or her parents are asleep...could be the "uncle"....dad's old buddy.. Tears--nice touch would be to also see her tear up when she's cumming, hips up in the air... It really wouldn't take much to elevate the quality of porn again. Studios could hire "directors" for cheap even. Fans who have good ideas. I'm sure many would "direct" a scene for free just to have the chance and maybe a full time job doing it. Have the fan direct one scene as their audition...if the studio likes hire them to do more videos... |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | In every video there needs to be at least 2 ITNRO 5-20 second scenes BEFORE the SEX....to tease us, tell us why they might be going at it later....maybe Scene 1: Intro duce the characters BRO and sister's HOT friend exchange glances...she flirts immediately as she's always liked him. SCENE 2: She puts on sexy revealing clothing...bending over counter talking to his sis she reveals half her ass, panties ON. He is having a a drink enjoying the view and quickly looks away not to look like a PERV. Girls walk by and HOT friend casually rubs her butt asint his crotch lightly....she looks back when sis isnt looking and grins...hes thinking "Nahh cant be!!"...after everyone else is asleep....parents, sis...he gets up to use the bathroom and walks by guest room....she's masturbating but forgot to close the door fully...she's not loud at all...just going at it...gets in doggie with her butt facing the door....he cant resist any longer and slowly walks in....He surprises her with his hand on her butt and just as she's about to scream (not panicing but just because caught off guard) he puts other hand over her muoth and tells her to be quiet. She does and contineus finger herself and hands him her butt plug....etc. ...enxt day they all meet at breakfast table and act like nothing happened. The end. He volunteers to drive her to the airport that night. He takes her in the airport parking garage on the hood...in the ass. Her clothes on but skirt up high enough. PERV Hidden Cam--if that's going to be done include footage of guy watching her from his tablet in another room jerking off. Then have her spot the camera...then grin...she instead of getting upset plays along. Starts stuffing her ass with butt toys. Cums on the counter leaving a puddle. (can be faked) Has to be 2-3 "lead-in" scenes BEfORE the sex!1 And a clonclusion scene. Anything that would make sense. Simple. Like writting an essay (intro, middle, conclu). The "meat" of the story--nees to have ups and downs--meaning she has to pretend to struggle at times...maybe like it hurts a little...show vulnerability. Or he tries to fuck her ass and she's too scard so she tightens up and it hurts like hell. Tries again but she releaxes enough...he eases it in...inch by inch....SLOWLY....the deeper he goes the louder she moans...a little pain in her voice still but gorwss to love it...huge grin....she cums (SPUNK...white lube squeezed out of her pussy)... Again....if they could just slow it down....SYNC the moans with the thrusts. Only moan when he thrus IN...why doesnt any one rise faces any more rolling her hips over his face (or her face). SLOWLY....then again have her squeeze some "SPUNK" on their faces like she aame on theeir faces...messy is good.... |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | ...to choreograph the sex positions like they would a fight scene in a mainstream action film....one sex position needs to lead to the other. NOT be random. BJ to foot-job. LOL!! BJ to missionary?? e.g. kiss lips to licking and/or biting boobs....kissing down to pussy...etc. ...when dick even touches the lips of the vag or the outside of the anus....she has to ReACT. THEN...not 5 minutes later. Like he's fucking her and her mind is elsewhere. No connection to what's going on. :) ..SLOW DOWN. Good old days of porn...70's 80's....maybe early 90's. When people knew what they were doing and guys didn't go to work dry. |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | Why not get a pornstar you know that is great at doing anal....who LOVES IT....and in the video ask her to act like it's difficult for her. Act like she CAN'T do the things she CAN...have her say "....I can't!!!" (when in fact she could take that BBC and then some). Do simple things to imply it's "hard" for here to do like quickly have her put her hand on the guy's arm or pelvis as if trying to push him off... ...react to when he goes DEEP e.g. eyes suddenly opening BIGGER the deepr he does and moaning LOUDER. Some pornstars can scream. They got the lungs. :) Work on having a few volume levels of scram/moan. Louder the deeper he does. Hed have to slow the pace of his thrusts of course...small things like this would elevate the hotness of XXX IMHO.... Add "spunk" (white lube I'm guessing...used by BAM VISIONS...that I know of..) when the camera is paused...so that when porn chicks say I'M CUMMING some white GOOOO ooozes out of their pussies...messy is good...cheap to do. Just need to DO IT. Pause camera and squeeze in quarter a cup full...start filming again...she squeezes it out as she's being fucked in the ass....or fisted....e.g. Lena Paul....didn't know she could "Handle" it...Her own hand and his.... Had no idea she could do fisting... I said it before....I think most studios ARE lazy (Too lazy to use lube to fake girl cum...lube is already there). That one special FX would take all XXX up asnother notch. Who wouldn't like to see hot beautiful pornstars GIRL CUM? Dripping down the insides of their thighs while in doggie...? :) Isn't it odd that in most porn today when girls say their cumming nothing flows out 99% of the time... COACH...e.g. each time she moans she squeezes a little white lube out of her pussy. Not throughout the entire video but do that at least at the end....a "money shot/--women's"...heck...when she's riding the guys face....back to the camera...she can pur a little vanilla ice cream down her belly which would flow all over his face...wed assume it's girl cum....heh...ODD SFX aren't used much if at all. I think I've only seen Mick Blue on his BAM VISION videos do it. (Thumbs UP) |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | WHY IS IT.....that we have $Shots but ONLY with the dude cumiming? Why not squirt some white lube into her pussy BEFORE she says "I'm going to cUM!!"....at the end of the scene for the $Shop or near the ened when the girls say they're about to cum? Instead of seeing her dry. No point in even saying "I'm cumming!!" if she's going to be dry (no real cream/girl cum or lube to fake it). Why NOT?? OR, why not have the girls cum on the guy's face instead (or as well...in the same video) when she's riding his face rolling her hips. Grinding her pussy on his chin/couth/tonue. Can fake this by having her back facing the camera...only see her bare ass, butt hole and pussy lips. Then have her pour some white vanilla icream on his face which he could actually swallow willingly...creating the effect of HER cumming on his face. How HOT would this be to see!! 2 things that isnt being done in XXX. WHY NOT?? People arent thinking...."innovate"... ANd on the topic of GIRL CUM...when they start the scenes...they could pour some lube in her pussy...panties still ON...have her start rubbing her pussy or tits for a minute or two...then squeeze some lube out of her vagina. putting a wet stain on her panties...with some lube dripping out the sides of her panty...HOT!!! Also not done in American XXX. In some JP or Chinese porn they show the wet stain on purpose...good idea. Odd it's not done here!! Or in Europe... Messy is sexy HOT!! :) Stop wiping away the lube or ream guy cum...let us see them sweat...her makeup rundown her face...one girl Gianna Dior said in one her videos "fuck me till I cant walk"...something that SHOULD be said. And acted out at the end of the videos. Have the girls pretend to stand and fall over curling up into a ball...hand on pussy..."...OuuCH!! GIve am a few minutes!! (GRIN)"... Those 3 little things would elevate XXX...not done..YET...Hoping someone in the industry will read this and do it. :) |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | As we know in mainstream filmss there are coaches for everything e.g. accents, if they're playing a boxer they get some boxing training to make them look lbelievable...so why not when it comes to sex in porn??? There's also no real attempt at "acting". They say some lines---SEX!! :) No connection or lead up. E.g. Manuel Ferrera and Eva Lovia....MF walks to EL laying on a lounge chair by a pool "I know how to make you not bored...." he then starts pulling out her boobs. HEH!! Just like that. Not how it happens in real life!! :)) Great way to get smacked and brought up on charges. Or if she's a GF ...she walks out. ...there's also usually no connection from one position to the next...like they're running through a check list LOL!! Again in most production. Sometimes Nubile Films gets it right, Bellasa Films half the time, Puer Taboo...but the other 97 percent....heh...GONZO...Heck Mike Adriano barks commands DURING the filming...couldnt pause the REC telling her what he wants...then start REC again...that totally takes the "heat" away from the scene. If you still get off just seeing pornstar A get it so be it...but most of us like some "foreplay"...some lead-up/tease...some thing to "ignite" our boners :) Not go from e.g. sitting by logs....FIRE! :) Twerking is still popular. Moving the hips fast isn't sexy IMHO. Slow rhythmic motions ARE. Still bugs me when we see a scene....girl says "i'm cumming"...and nothing happens e.g. she doesn't lift her hips in the air and shake NOR does she squeeze whitish lube from her pussy to fake "creaming" or being "wet". So easy to do. Mick Blue did it in a vew BAM VISIONS videos as I mentioned. They ARE lazy. Mostly. |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | If every studio began faking girl cum that would be one major way IMHO to UP the quality of porn today. What we have today are people/"studios" that are too lazy to consider "innovating"...."How could we make things HOTTER?"... Today, everytime a porn chick says "...I'm cumming!!!" and the camera zooms in on her pussy nothing happens at all. 99% of the time. Dry. No flow. The girls don't even bother to at least move their bodies to make it look like they're orgasming e.g. lift hip into the air and quiver just that area. Then drop hip back on the bed. At least do that with a decent sexy sounding moan...girls CAN do a sexy moan today (give them that). But if "directors"...or whoever is calling the shots during REC...could convince the girls to allow whomever to slip in some white lube to fake the GIRL GUM. That would literally turn XXX videos on their heads. As it's almost never done. Who wouldn't PREFER to see both the chick and the dude cum?? Who isnt tired of hearing girls say they're about to CUM ...camera zoomed in on pussy....not even a drop (99% of the time). Making saying they're "cumming" pointless. Imagine watching a porn film and the guy doesn't cum. He just says he is about to... :) Faking GRIL CUM would spice up EVERY type of scene bigi time!! e.g. Hot girl with nice ass sitting on edge of bar s tool...perfect view...see asshole and pussy hanging...hopefully with good lighting...would it not be HOTTER if she was squeezing out whast looked like GIRL CUM? Camera catching it dripping out of her pussy, landing on the edge of the chair puddling and then onto the floor...bigger puddle! :) Imagine that...a scene where she's actually got FLOW! :) There was a scene with Staci Carr for FTV...she climbs on a window ledge wearing a short dress....near elevators...she squats exposing her pussy/asshole after standing...starts fingering herself...if she the camera guy (owner of FTV, Robert) could have had her pump some white-ish lube in her pussy....camera on PAUSE...then start REC again....as she is fingering herself again and moaning she squeezes out a 1/4 cup of lube....puddles on ledge...dripping onto floor! :) HOT!ER!1 You could hear she was wet but couldnt see it.... Any sex position would benefit from FAKING GIRL CUMMING....Missinary, would be great in Doggie as the lube would drip down the insides of her thighs... Faking GIRL CUM is so cheap since every one has lube on the set. They're all just too lazy to add the extra step of "pausing camera...pumping a little white lube in the pussy...start REC again"....and maybe some "hip riased in air/quivering" at the same time.... OR when the girl is riding his face...great time to fake it there too...her back iis usually facing the camera. She could squeeze some 1% milk on his face, white vanilla ice cream...etc. HOT!!! VS what we see today...NOTHIING. His face isnt even wet. Dry. And not all girls know how to GRIND....:) They NEED to UP the quality of XXX!! Too mechanical today "check list of positions sex" that have no connection e.g. BJ to doggie?? :) Only a few couples have any technique today. The Sin's. Justband has a channel. Forget their names. :P No I'm not referring to Christianna CINN....she's good! :) Does anal andd is LOUDEST....dont think she creams but does squirt... |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | Anal Sex videos. Notice how in 99 percent of the videos out there the guys just enter the girl's ass. No warning. Doesn't ask for permission. Just does and she's okay with it. This works if it's a GONZO video....which most are anyway....but if they include a story/intro.....the dude MUST hint at anal in the plot or ask....some how mentioning it in the introduction. That they're going to or the character (s) want to have anal sex. And she has to some how imply or even say she PREPARED....cant assume the character is clean....how it wowrks in the real world. No guy wants to fuck a dirty ass hole. Also....there needs to be more efforts to ACT especially when doing anal....so much sexier when the girl ACTS like it's a stuggle or that there's a little pain involved. But "Good pain". Grimacing in pain sort of, a little...part of the time mixed with that GRIN showing she likes a little pain. Emphasize the intitual entry with a sudden MOAN as he slips the head of his cock in...then lower her moan or scream colume a little as he goes deep then once DEEP ENOUGH moan or scream LOUD...so that we can hear where he is when moving inside her. He'd need to slow down his pace too....which leads me to a grip in XXX in general...why are they fucking like they're in a hurry 08 percent of the time??? Don't think I've seen a couple fuck with a tempo, a beat....maybe 1 percent...it's so rare...TECHNIQUE (which most 77-'s and 80j's pornstars had and only only a few today have (e.g. Kissa Sins, Cherry Kiss....)....most girls just DO IT...no EMOTION.... Add the sex is "buffet syle"...there's no connection between the sex positions....and oddly the GIRLS IGNORE THEIR BOOBS....after they take out their boobs or take off their bra...their boobs are untouched. Why not have their hands cupping their own boobs and then pinch their nipples WHILE being fucked, moaning/screaming... odd t hat isn't done. or why the guys stopped licking and sucking their nipples.... They should only be doing a little "acting" when fucking....no one watches porn for the acting ablity of a pornstar to play a "evil villain", ...most cant act anyway. Keep the dialogue simple and to a minimum....make sure it makes sense....as it would in the real world. .. If they can't think of sotries that make sense use the tried and true.....daydream (guy sitting wathiing hot girl who wont give him time of day but wants her....suddenly there's the "daydream SFX"....blurry wave video effect...I think it's on any video editing software...heh....or they could play the "wind chimes" sound fx...heh...:)) Or another simple story would be "hypnosis"---girl is hipnotized to turn into a sexual beast when she hears one key word "life" "rose"....another key wod makes her get naked...etc. This way they wouldnt have to think of hos to tie the story in the introduction to why they are having sex...something that's missing in most videos with a "story". e.g. gir needs idea for her book she's writing says guy...she says she needs to find inspiration...suddenly they're fucking.....without warning he fucks her ass TUSHY/Eva Lovia and French guy... |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | e.g. Massage video....massaging her and suddenly he slips fingers inside her. No warning. :) And she's okay with it. LOL!! All they'd have to do is (if okay with the porn "actress") slip some white lube in her pussy and ask her to hold it till they start filming again. He massages her more. She squeezes a little out of her pussy...looks like GIRL CUM...invitation to sex. :) Could add her voice over with some reverb--to simulate he talking in her own head "...feeels soooooO GOOD...cant stop him...though I know this is SO WRONG!!"..she has to be so aroused...shes powerless. Can't just have h er moan a little and he just goes at it :) Or...she could be blunt...aroused...she openly asks him if she pays him an extra $2000 WOULD HE_____? He looks pissed off at first "What do I look like? some male gigalo?"...he walks away...remembers he owes a lot of money....says reluctantly...he gives in. But has to show throughout the sex he didn't want to...maybe have the camera zoom in on his family photo near by...then bak to the naked woman on the massage table...etc. e.g. girl looking at neighbour or step-brother or uncle staying the wekend. Camera gets a shot of her from the front...we see a wet spot on her shorts . Embarassed she runs away. But HE sees that. Then when everyone is asleep he goes to her room. She sleeps naked...etc. Puts one hand over her mouth...says I NOTICED YOU TODAY...WET...she relaxes from being startled...gives in. Thinking of the WHY isnt that hard!! :) Think like a boy having a wet dream :)) e.g. HOT step-sis practices yoga....in deep meditation...totally unware of anything going on "outside" he rbody. In her own mental space....relaxes. She is naked. He is shocked. Runs away. The comes byck 30 sec later...turned on. She has awesome body. Touches her butt lightly to test to see if she notices. She doesnt. He then touches her boob. Nothing. Licks her boob. No rection. In the video she really cant feel a thing. He fingers her pussy, she cums....she is still STILL...in her head...she thinks of something pleasureabl....but has no idea.. He leaves. She wakes from her "mental state". Looks down between her legs. sees a puddle. Can't understand why...chalks it up to the meditation. Shrugs it off. Showers. END. e.g. HOT auntt staying the weekend....sleep walks naked...walks into his bed at night. He's shocked. She sleeps like a rock. Doesn't feel him touching her boobs. Continues sleeping. Hiavng a "good dream". He touches her anus. Grins again talking in her sleep. He goes at it. She just continues talking in her dream as if she was fucking her movie star crush. So many possible simple stories...with a WHY |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | That missing part of the puzzle that links the intro of the video to the SEX. :) Never htere. They can't even think of scenarios where she might hve aleady been "tempting him". From a wink to a blouse open enough to reveal her cleavage view in a quick 2 sec look see that lets him see a nipple...he's getting a little interested now...knows he shouldn't be but cant help it...next scene she's getting undressed to step into the shower...thought she closed the bathrom door...door opens just enuogh on its own...he happens to be walking by Ste- bro....takes a peak...catches her side profile...more turned on wants to jerk off but runs away to not get caught....just before he does she bends over and eveals her pussy...etc. He walks up in the middle of the night and walks by her bedroom...notices she is sleeping naked...this time her eyes are half open and she grins...he goes in SEX..
We have a medium....a kind of entertainment where people are wiling to get naked and have sex or masturbate....yet the stories usually never make sense. Laughly stupid most of the time. If they had good writeers and an actual director....who actually "directed" (barking out the sex positions during the REC is not directing....and takes any heat from the scene....Mike Adriano GONZO).. |
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| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | They go from an idea for a story then SUDDENLY start hving sex. e.g. "...you look bored (guy)...I know how you'll not be bored..." then reaches under her bikini top and pulls out her boob. :) She lets him. Not ROYALLY pissed off like any normal woman would in the real world. It's like writters forget what happens in ReAL LIFE. Few directors know to....ask the girl to e.g. only start moaning when his dick touches her pussy or butthole....gradually drop lower jaw and open eyes bigger moaning louder the deepr he does... Usually (looks like) they just wing it. Tell them they want so many sex positions and let the performers go at it. They might not be good at sex or know how to be sexy. It IS an art. As I mentioned...there was this amateur video...had camera on her face for 30 sec....just her face...on her face (and her moan) she told you want was going on...was HOT. Its like the phone sex voice that is sexy enough to give you a hard on without needing to see her face or body in action....that "ability". There needs to be coaching of how to "ignite the fire" BEFORE the sex...few studios do this. Few performers know how to move from position to position...they just do BJ stop Missionary STOP doggie...like going through a check-list :) So much HOTTER IF they knew to direct her to slowly drop her lower jaw ONLY when she feels the tip of his dick touch her vagina lips or anus...then gradually moan louder the deeper he goes...almost never see this...every one has "rushed sex"...One speed chumps...has to be painful..hehe... |
| BDD Member 116 Posts 12/09 | What gets me is we have a kind of entertainment (people willing to get naked and have sex on a closed set....but don't care for the ART OF SEX. MOSTLY. All they'd have to do is watch a mainstream Hollywood film....see how they "fake sex" and get people turned on STILL. Use that as a model. Watch a Sharon Stone film. :) I don't know if it's because most people working "don't know HOW"? Or just don't care enough to make an actual effort e.g. Roll the hips when riding him or as he's eating her out....while keeping both hands on boobs pinching nipples...moaning. Simple things they COULD BE DOING that would UP the quality of porn--guy uses more than 1 speed...have a beat.--use white lube to fake girl cum (no point in saying "I'm cumming!!!"...have the camera zoom in on her pussy...and see no FLOW. It's cHEAP and easy effect...every porn set has lube....just a matter of pausing the camera...slipping a handful of lube in her pussy...cleaning any runoff so her pussy looks dry TILL she says "I'm CUMMMING!!"....then she starts squeezing out the lube with each moan....leaving flow down her ass and inside of her thighs...puddling on the bed or counter top or whereever...messy is good!! :) But no one but Mick Blue has thought of t his and is faking girl cum in a few videos for Bam Visions. SO EASY TO DO!!! :P Most just don't wanna make the effort to do this...Imagine seeing a hot pornstar getting some anal while she's moaning ...then she starts "(fake) cumming" squeezing out some lube....Elevate the quality of porn right there.. ...could fake guy cum as most guys today come to work fairly "empty" (compared to guys from the 90's, 80's, 70's...when THEY came as they were being jerked off their would cover her hands they had so much REAL cum. Using camera angles and devices...they could today "fake it". And if someone is going to say they have but didn't work....it's because they obviously messed up the camera angles. Mostly...they didn't really want to make the effort...so they made a half-assed attempt to fake guy cum--they could do one frame 5 sec worth with her face and half his dick in the frame, then zeoom in to her face (his dick no longer in frame) and then use a dropper/tube...AIM squeeze paint face :) SO EASY!! ...when people fuck in real life....we sweat. Why do they keep wiping them dry??? :) Let the eyeliner run...leave the cum on her boobs or whereever...n one during sex stops to wipe clean and then continue....usually. ...how about the "lift hip in air and gentlly shake" technique to fake orgasming?? Do it OFTEN if she is "dry" or if too lazy to fake girl cum...better if they did fake girl cum AND lifted hip/quiver...then drop hip back on bed when done. Little things like this... ...as the performers to slow it down by 60% :) Like they WANT TO be there... ....could even use SFX like red paint under her nails ...when camera is paused...then start rolling---faking her diggering he nails into his back or scratching his bak when she orgasms. Again....Cheap and easy SFX. ....And why is there no "coach" for the performers to see before filming??? Like an athlete who wants to take their perform-ace to the next level--see a qualified coach. Any sport. Why not in XXX??? No one's thought of this???? There are a cew actos that are GOOD...have them teach.. I mean....you're watching the beautiful Tori Black in action....and you're thinking...."If only she would _______ adn then _______"...she's there, naked, about to do anal "but" she's talking too much...she's not grabbing a hand full of bed sheets when she's pretending to orgasm, there's no girl cum flowoing out of her pussy....she's not lifgting her hips into the air and shaking her hips just enough...while caressing her boobs pinching her nipples...moaning...gradually lOUDER..heh.. IDEA...why not get the pornstars from the 80's to coach and direct?? :) They'e probably disappointed at the quality of porn today. Just like how the bodybuilders from the days of Arnold Schwarzenegger are disappointed with the PRO's today...quality drop off everywehre...entertainment to sports... |
| Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01 | You've devolved from your original topic. Per your words, "this thread was intended to mention studios like BELLASA FILMS. Who have made an effort to "elevate" the quality of porn." Yet it has become you endlessly ranting and raving to basically yourself. There are existing threads for your comments to go and this thread went off the rails a long time ago. |
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