Even though I myself act in gonzo porno flicks in England, am I the only person to be appalled at the need for US porn to have so many of its young teen films to feature girls dressed up in pony tails and school uniform, as if to try and show under age sex.
With all the internet porn cases going on (there have been hundreds of arrests in the UK - Pete Townsend was one recently), surely the last thing we want is to encourage sex with minors?
Hi BIGIRLVICTORIA ! At first , could you tell me in which movies did you turn ? And how old are you ? I think that teens movies are not as dangerous as you say. People who watch these movies know that the actresses are all at least 18 years old . I am talking only about movies distributed by famous companies like HUSTLER , NOTORIOUS , RED LIGHT DISTRICT , ANABOLIC , DIABOLIC , ELEGANT ANGEL , NEW MACHINE , .... But there is a part what is dangerous : underground porn . And I was very shocked the first time I searched teen porn on kazaa : there were some titles like "14 years old girl fucking" ........ I hate bastards who put such shits and who shoot such illegal movies . Sorry for the words I use , but for this problem of childporn , there are not any other words to describe that ! We must all take care of this problem , but I don't think that famous studios like the ones I already wrote are dangerous !
Porno + Morals? Hmmm... Personally I'm not turned on by actresses made up to look like 11-year-old Catholic school girls, but the fantasy is out there. Porn didn't create it. Better to jerk off on playacting adult film actresses then start groping your neighbor's daughter... Can porn-watching lead to sex crimes? I believe the odds are slim.
no offense but so? We all know that porn performers are at least 18 years or older, well usually...Traci Lords & Alex Quinn excepted. It's called fantasy and it has been a part of porn since day one. I mean for godsake's in the latest Grrl Power the boxcover is advertising Jessica Darlin as being 18 years old...if that isn't a fantasy I don't know what is. I also fail to see where titles like Teen Patrol or Trained Teens would raise any more of a red flag than say, Screw My Wife Please . I agree that a storm is probably coming for the porn world, especially if the Bush Cartel gets another term but girls in plaid skirts & pigtails is the least of the industry's problems.
Max Booty "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -Voltaire
As long as porn involves fully consenting adults (18+) who gives a rat's ass how they are dressed or acting. Today's porn babes can slap on diapers and act like newborns for all I care, it still won't diminish the fact that they're old enough to legally fuck on film.
"Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law" - Aleister Crowley 1875-1947
Well, I find pigtails to be hot, as well as plaid skirts, and bald pussies. I don't care for overly made up chicks, as in some "director's" work, but that's my opinion, and my right. I do like teens up through 40's... black, white, small, large, as long as the sex is hot, well-filmed, and the girls hot (no matter the age, 18+, of course).
...and of course, just about every director wants a "first time" girl, they get the bragging rights to being the first.
I do agree that there is an absurd amount of "teen" titles, from like every studio, even two to three and on up of different teen titles. But I guess it boils down to what the consumer wants. If every porn viewer just wanted to see a girl and a guy, straight vaginal sex only, than that's all you would see. Because porn is to make money not lose money, so not that many pornographers venture into uncharted territory without forst doing a market survey. So if every porn viewer wanted nothing but pissing, than you'd see nothing but pissing titles.
Welcome bigirlvictoria. So long as porn makes money for the big businesses that fund politicians' campaigns, and there is a fig leaf of cover available to those politicians, porn will survive. Making kiddie porn is akin to manufacturing counterfeit goods. Everybody recognizes that it hurts the legitimate makers as well. Furthermore, I think the Supreme Court already said, in effect, that it's not kiddie porn if somebody just pretends to be underage (am I right, morbidthoughts?). That being the case, that fig leaf's looking pretty good.
Personally, I like my porn actresses to look like women. If they do, then I don't mind a school uniform. Of course, I also like the upper-class sophisticate look.
In answer to your last question, businesses don't have morals; people do. Some people in porno have better morals than others.
i personally find images of young teens in pigtails and miniskirts to be a huge turn-on, but I haven't stumbled across a teen dvd that has been worth keeping. maybe because the sex isn't hard or rough enough. maybe service animals.. I'd love to rough sex / teen combo. how about Teenage Fashionistas?
Teen Patrol # 3 and Teen Patrol # 4 are the young girl look, light make-up, plaid skirts, totally shaved pussys! Are they rough? I have the girls on leash and collars, all doing anal, D.P.,Gangbang, ATM, spanking, gaping and other aggresive acts that the girls were totally into. It is the most aggresive teen line out there. Please note: It is fantasy!!! Only! The girls are also hogtied at times. I filmed the movies 10 months ago! Skeeter Kerkoves "Teen Patrol" # 2 and Teen Patrol # 3 by Metro! Very Hardcore stuff, facials and cum in the ass, then swallowed. "Bait" by Mayhem, my gig at Sin City is very, very aggresive! Very, very, very Hardcore. It was shot 5 months ago. It was released last week! If rough sex is not your gig, please do not watch Bait. Maybe if we are all lucky, Asmodeus will post the front and back of the Boc Cover for "Bait", it can be found on the www.mayhemxxx.com website. I do not know how to do it, if I did, I would post it. The picture of Kitty is priceless. here is the link to mayhemxxx.com, go to new releases. Skeeter Kerkove Porn producer, director, performer. I am a huge fan of hardcore porn and I love all of the women in porn. "God Bless Pornography" A womans ass is a beautiful thing" Woman rule!
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Posted - Jun 1 2003 : 3:16AM
I have fucked a few girls aged 14 or 15 (which is completely legal in Russia) I picked up at bars. Some were even semi-professional hookers. Most of them would not mind earning some extra-money on a porn set, I tell you. Now, what Bigirlvictoria is talking about, is an entirely different story. Me, too I felt already appalled watching a completely legal teen (18+) dressed up like 11. Even all of them are legal, that is playing with a phantasy that might incite kiddy-porn-production (I am taling about kids here, not teens!). Might do so, but maybe rather does not. Because all that studies trying to link porn and crime, cannot really proofe any link. So its just a phantasy that sells. Its just the market. Me, I prefer my phantasy girl presented like a women (but near bald), no matter how old she actually is. But that is just me.
BTW Skeeter, thanx for the head's up of this hot new title from MAYHEM XXX. And your right about sweet little Kitty on the cover with you: she simply looks too damn cute for words!
"Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law" - Aleister Crowley 1875-1947
More good news!!! Michael Stephano is doing a fresh, teen movie that will be anal intensive! That will be a must have teen DVD and John Doe is finishing up on his teen movie for Devils films. Dions company Red Light is finishing up on one, so there will be plenty of real, legal teens, pumping out the anal and D.P. I am doing one on the 28 th of this month, Bridgette completed hers last week. So everybody will have plenty to watch. "That is a beautiful thing" So everybody will be happy, teens getting pumped good and hard in the ass. God Bless the girls, God Bless Pornography. You only live once, however if you enjoy enough porn, once is enough baby! [ invalid url ]
I was watching the MTV Movie Awards earlier tonight and something that happened pertains to this topic. The lesbian teen duo Tatu performed a song because it is MTV and they felt they needed another musical performance. During the course of the song, the girls unleashed a dizzying amount of dancers on the stage and in the aisles, all wearing porn-esque plaid skirts and white tops. By the end of the forgettable song, the dancers had all removed their skirts to reveal white cotton panties and ended on a pose where it seemed they were all kissing the girl next to them. What was the reaction they got? Well, it seemed a majority of the females in the crowd politely clapped while a fair share of the males went crazy, with Ashton Kutcher, Sean "P Diddy" Combs, and Danny Masterson giving a standing ovation.
To make an unfair broad generalization here, a lot of guys seem to love the whole schoolgirl look. And a lot of guys love lipstick lesbians. However, as has all ready been eloquently pointed out, the industry will give the public what they want. And right now the "schoolgirl" thing is in. I can't say that I think it is a particularly good thing for porn to be doing so widescale. Eventually, it is going to look tired (I think it all ready has) and oversaturate the market. When that happens, they'll find something else to overexpose. It's like the music industry with bubble gum pop. I hate all those bands and wish they'd go away, but they'll stick around as long as they sell.
The young girl look has been in for far too long for it to just go away. It used to be Cherry Poppers now it's Anarchy's Pop that Cherry. The number of these type of lines or titles increases as the ages of the girls decrease (except for Katie Morgan whose whole career has been made on constantly starring in young girl films) and the profits increase. I have seen and enjoyed a ton of young girl films so I'm being somewhat hypocritical here, but I think it does become kind of boring at some point. Whenever I step out of it and just watch this fresh off the bus 18 or 19-year-old in her plaid skirt trying her best to resist Herschel Savage's advances I just kind of sigh at how little things change. But if it ain't broke don't fix it I guess.
I'm surprised that nobody else noticed this, but some notable, veteran girls have even voiced a disinterest with this new trend. Renee Larue and Shay Sights left Wildlife, one of the latest to throw their hats in the gonzo/young girl ring, and are forming their own company to make golden age era-esque porn. Taylor St. Claire has semi-retired, seemingly dropping out of sight and only coming up for air to cite her discomfort over the intense young girl movement on LukeFord. I guess we shouldn't expect to see these women pop up in pigtails and plaid skirts anytime soon, but does the industry really care? There'll be some younger chick who will do it and look more authentic as a young girl anyway.
"Or has Porno no morals left!"
Did porn have any real strong morals in the first place?
The one young girl proprieter that I would say is probably too far is Max Hardcore. I have seen several of his videos and I liked "Video Games" with Kaitlyn Ashley simply because it was the first porn scene I ever saw and I liked a scene he did with Cherry Mirage, one of my favorite pornstars. However, seeing him smear lipstick on his women or busting out speculums or the odd dialogue he exchanges with his co-stars where it seems the girl often acts as if she were a pre-teen schoolgirl is upsetting. Some people like that stuff. I don't. However, for the most part most of these numerous teen lines don't seem to go that far. Often they are lazy or direct, depending on how you look at it, enough to simply put the chick in a plaid skirt and let 'em have at it. I would say that porn was in dire straits if all of these Teen Perversions and Just Over 18's were Max Hardcore-esque, but it is not that way.
But as a US porn consumer, would I pick up a Vivid flick or a teen flick? I would pick the ladder. Gonzo is porn's bread and butter right now and teen flicks are just an offset of that.
I realize I've rambled so I'll close now by saying nothing more other than: I do sadly find a woman in a plaid skirt to be instantly attractive. The question I have to ask myself is that because I have been watching porn since I was a teenager or is it just natural?
Kelly
"It's oh-so acceptable to be a gay girl nowadays. People think it's cute, because they've got this fool picture in their heads about lipstick lesbians-like they all resemble Alyssa-while most of them look more like you." - Hooper X
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Posted - Jun 6 2003 : 4:39AM
I have voiced my mixed feelings about this trend already and I always rather liked the girls presented like real women, so I agree a lot with your post. But one thing i dont agree at all: The ages of the girls dont decrease. I know a lot of Russian girls aged 14-18 who would be so lucky to earn some extra money on a porn set, but they cannot, because it is illegal in West. Teens are taken serious only after 18th birthday. So girls we get to watch in those young-teens-movies are 18 all the time - 18 to 30, I guess, like in all other porn films.
"So girls we get to watch in those young-teens-movies are 18 all the time - 18 to 30, I guess, like in all other porn films."
I think you misinterpeted what I was saying. I wasn't trying to say that girls are underage or anything like that at all. I'm just saying that nowadays if a girl is in a young girl themed video and proports to be 18 I am more inclined to believe she might truly be 18 more so than I used to simply because of the trend of the younger the better. If you thought I was saying girls are underage now then you definitely missed it and I guess I was unclear so sorry. Although I guess no matter old the actual girl is, these girls are always 18 in these videos. So, as someone pointed out earlier, when Jessica Darlin' pops up in one of these tapes she's suddenly 18 again.
I'd support raising the minimum age for being in porn to 21, but that's another subject where I realize I'm in the minority.
I like fresh performers, but there is a difference between fresh and teen. You can have an 18 year old who looks like a skank and a 22 year old who looks like she's only had one boyfriend.
Maybe Anabolic should switch from Bring Em Young to Bring Em Fresh instead.
That way Anabolic has more freedom to cast, and we don't have to endure another 19 year old that looks like she's fucked every player in the NBA - twice.
The cover of Teen Patrol that Asmodeus posted prompted me to post. I saw the young lady on the cover, Kitty, in a preview before the main feature of a DVD I rented. When I first saw her I couldn't believe it, she looked as if she were 10 years old.
I'm as "live and let live" as the next guy (probably more so), but I really don't think you need a woman to look that young to sell your product. When it gets to this point, you're just pandering to pedophilic (I really hope that's a word) urges.
RoccoFan, it is understandable the way you feel and I respect your opinion but rest assured that Kitty is well above the age of sexual consent and old enough to be legally sucking and fucking her brains out on camera.
"Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law" - Aleister Crowley 1875-1947
Hello Rocco fan, thanks for writing. I assure you, when I shot the movie, it was forty three days after Kittys birthday! The box cover is pretty shocking, however it is all in good fun, the big fish hook and fishing pole. I agree, my box bait box cover, is one of the youngest looking in porn. It is a part of the Skeeter Kerkove "Shock and Awe campaign", to instill anal confidence with every girl worldwide. If the age is ever moved up to 21 for porn, it won't bother me. My favorite thing to film is girls in fetish ware and lots of glamour make-up and hair. For me, it is all one big love story. Kitty loves to fuck, suck and smoke cigarettes. God Bless Kitty and God Bless Pornography. Skeeter Kerkove "King of Sodom" Porn producer, director, performer. I am a huge fan of hardcore porn and I love all of the women in porn. "God Bless Pornography" A womans ass is a beautiful thing" Woman rule!
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Posted - Jul 6 2003 : 9:48AM
I don't know what it is guys just love younger girls. Maybe because they're a little naive, fit, and pure.
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Posted - Jul 6 2003 : 10:10AM
I would advocate lowering the age of consent to 15-16 any time, but its not the reason for you think, I guess. I stated it already twice in this tread: I prefer my porn girls presented like real women. At the same time I know so many Russian teen girls enjoying excessive sex life at age 14, who would just be glad to earn some extra cash doing porn. I think world should learn to take teens and their needs more seriousely. I would not be surprised its the same people that want to watch 23 y.o. dressed up like 11 and lament porn age to be as <low> as 18.
