Zero Tolerance Movies are pretty good!!

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Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 1:15AM I just wanted to start a new thread that would potentially undo whatever damage may have been done by the "Zero Tolerance Movies Suck" thread started by "Nun Porn". I originally wanted to call this thread "Nun Porn can feast on my nutsack" but then I considered that this thread might be locked as well. Anyhoo, Personally, I like our movies ( at least the ones that I shoot :). There's always room for improvement however. Legitimate fan input keeps us on our toes. Criticism is always welcome so long as it's polite. If you want to offer your vitriol anonymously and engage in cowardly name calling please visit www.xxxporntalk.com. Flacid imbeciles and newly registered sex offenders need a place to vent too. To all of you who have supported ZT during the past year and a half, thank you from the bottom of my heart. To all of you who dislike ZT but have remained civilized in your critiques, we take every comment and suggestion into consideration. Hopefully we can win you over some day. To Nun Porn, please die. Much Love, Quaze [Link]
cv Member My reviews[/url] 594 Posts 7/03	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 1:23AM Quaze, I'd like to help out; I'll do so by offering a "What ZT Can Do To Make Porn Better" post. Here's a suggestion: Teagan, ass fucking, massive facial. Thanks in advance. Cheers! -cv [Link]
Asmodeus Lord of Lust az-mo-day-us 6338 Posts 10/01	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 1:31AM Quaze, you and Greg will always have my full support! As a matter of fact, I'll be picking up Apprentass and Gaper Maker 2 as soon as they hit the streets in a few more days. Keep up the great nasty work! Images courtesy of Zero Tolerance Entertainment [Link]
Max Booty Member New Orleans 484 Posts 6/03	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 1:34AM Is this the point where I can ask, again, for more chapter stops on ZT DVDs? Max Booty "She smells like angels ought to smell." Frank Miller, Sin City [Link]
Coyote Member Daylight Savings Time, is it really Necessary? 972 Posts 3/04	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 1:42AM I use to avoid ZT's stuff but am finding your (ZT's) stuff to be getting better and better. Keep up the good work!! [Link]

KO_Artist Member NYC 76 Posts 4/04	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 1:43AM Quaze- Your stuff is terrific! The first DVD I saw from ZT was Grand Theft Anal, and it remains in heavy rotation in my porn library (along with many other ZT releases). I don't think I've seen a better anal themed release since. I've followed your films for a while and was thoroughly entertained by your old site, Mike Quasarrants.com. Sorry, if I myself am ranting a bit, this is my first post on ADT!!! I never really much cared as to the technical aspects of gonzo porn till I started becoming educated as to these nuances from reading sites like ADT and others. Just a hot chick getting railed was enough for me. I think the camera angles in your work are spot on and the picture is clearer than a lot of other adult DVD's I've purchased. While the setup and scene intro's might get a little monotonous, the sex in ZT movies certainly are not in my humble opinion. I also just wanted to say it's a pleasure to finally post on ADT. I've been a longtime reader of the site and really appreciate the daily discourse that appears here. I'm still a young pup (23), but any old timer can see this is where the most intelligent porners and fans reside. Besides where else can you interact with Jewel, Brandon, Teagan, Quaze, et al? I'm excited to finally have enough moxie to post and I'm looking forward to contributing intelligently along with my other esteemed posters. I promise my subsequent posts won't bore you, like this one already has :) Quaze, don't let them haters boil your blood and keep pumping out the quality releases. [Link]
Pontus Maximus Senior Member Man of Steel, meet your match. 1346 Posts 9/02	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 1:48AM cv wrote: Quaze, I'd like to help out; I'll do so by offering a "What ZT Can Do To Make Porn Better" post. Here's a suggestion: Teagan, ass fucking, massive facial. Thanks in advance. Cheers! -cv Click to expand Agreed. Also, be sure to capture Teagan in some good COWGIRL anal and DOGGY anal (two great anal positions missed in the otherwise excellent Internal Cumbustion #4 ). Come on, Mr. Mike Quasar, make it happen, sir. [Link]
lordasmus Member 439 Posts 2/03	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 2:09AM Pontus Maximus wrote: cv wrote: Quaze, I'd like to help out; I'll do so by offering a "What ZT Can Do To Make Porn Better" post. Here's a suggestion: Teagan, ass fucking, massive facial. Thanks in advance. Cheers! -cv Click to expand Oh, yes! I also would love to see Teagan into some double vag/anal and at least covered with 40 loads! [Link]
loop Senior Member 1409 Posts 9/03	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 2:17AM i haven't seen a movie from zt yet , but if you consider making an all girl series (nasty one) then it will be a must buy for me [Link]
Wally Senior Member 1821 Posts 8/01	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 3:34AM Asmodeus wrote: Quaze, you and Greg will always have my full support! As a matter of fact, I'll be picking up Apprentass and Gaper Maker 2 as soon as they hit the streets in a few more days. Keep up the great nasty work! Images courtesy of Zero Tolerance Entertainment Click to expand mmmmmmm I don't know my friend, the covers look good but I definitely need more information before I even think on buying a porn video (any porn video). For example making the back-covers available would be a good improvement for Zero Tolerance. Edited by - wally on 6/3/2004 3:36:33 AM [Link]
sanchez_1960 Member 582 Posts 2/03	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 3:42AM Zero Tolerance movies are great! Mike Quasar, your stuff is exceptionally great..not only is the content great, but your pre-scene interviews are good and funny. Keep it up! [Link]
AlexPanzer Deactivated User 1593 Posts 6/03	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 9:10AM Whats with these new titles like Apprentass and Assassin (Fusxion) ? [Link]
PL Senior Member God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer 1726 Posts 10/03	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 9:22AM From some one who regularly watches ZT stuff, I like their stuff over all. Yes they have a few titles I would skip, but come on you have got to thank the company that brought us April's first anal! Personally I love listening to Quaze, the man just has the sense of humor I like. I was even fortunate to meet up and talk to Mike a few minutes in Vegas in January. I'll throw in my 2 cense of constructive criticism: I agree with Max on the chapter stops. P.S. the "To Nun Porn, please die." line is still killin me, sounds like something I say! [Link]
Crucifixio_Jones Senior Member Arrogant & Obnoxious Narcissist 4727 Posts 10/03	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 9:31AM I've said it before and I'll say it again: If I had my own porn company, it'd be just like Zero Tolerance. Keep it up, no complaints from this fan. [Link]
Renee Member 765 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 9:51AM I have only one request for a scene in an upcoming ZT film: I want to see someone shove a baseball bat up Nun Porn's ass. I want to see a nun shove a baseball bat up Nun Porn's ass. I want to see Mike Quasar film a nun shoving a baseball bat up Nun Porn's ass, with his inimitable camera style catching the 'smile' on Nun Porn's face. On a more serious level, I have the suspicion that Nun Porn is someone connected with the porn industry, someone who wanted to start up a negative thread about Zero Tolerance, but was posing as a simple porn fan to do this. Luckily, real porn fans are not that easily persuaded by one negative poster, whoever they might be, when they make blanket statements that are off the mark about a company. [Link]

Kperv The Cuddler *struck (She slipped) 1818 Posts 1/04	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 10:42AM I've only got one ZT movie (Ass Cleavage 2) but in that one I found no examples of the excessive roughness and mistreatment of the women that Nun Porn mentioned. There was some very very mild gagging but on the whole I'd say the roughness was below average for most recent gonzo. At no time was there a sense of a girl being pushed anywhere near her limits or looking like she'd rather not be there. And it had April Flowers barefoot and anal. Great movie. I'll agree that more chapter stops would have been nice. [Link]
Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 10:43AM There's a lot of love in this room. You all had me at hello :') Seriously though - More Chapter stops, Teagan (especially Teagan) and back cover access - Check. Quaze P.S. We have a boatload of new scenes with many beautiful Czech women once again. The summer will be a good one. [Link]
scipio Senior Member 1901 Posts 2/00	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 11:32AM I've got quite a few ZT dvds, although I haven't actually gotten around to watching any of them in full yet (it's easier to buy dvds then to find time to watch them ). So all I'd like to see is less (or none) of the rough sex slapping/choking etc, or if it's in there, make it obvious on the cover somewhere so I can avoid it. (bearing in mind that we buy most of our porn using the little boxcovershots). I skimmed through a 1-on-1 Mark Davis scene with a blonde girl (sorry can't remember which title) who he made gag and all of that stuff, and it's really a turn off. cheers, scipio [Link]
cochise Member You gonna pull them pistols or whistle dixie? 238 Posts 12/03	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 11:41AM I picked up Internal Combustion 2 a while back. Outstanding video quality and the extreme closeups that I like. It's one of my favorites and will be looking to purchase more from ZT in the future. Good job Quaze. [Link]
cobalt60 Knuckle Dragger 2046 Posts 2/03	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 12:23PM All the talk about nuns and bats is still making me hot and bothered, and I'm not even Catholic...I think it's because I picture a young Sally Field, and that's never a bad thing. I'm with Asmodeus on these two new titles coming out, except I'm broke from buying a house. Constructive criticism? Why? You're pornographers, not film-makers. [Link]
Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 12:47PM I only like the BM/WF movies from ZT. [Link]
1on1Fan Member 273 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 2:38PM Apprentass seems to be Compilation. 20 scenes + 1 brand new. who is in that brand new scene? [Link]
TonyC Comstock Films 2523 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 6:17PM How about this for a subject heading? Zero Tolerance Is Not Demonstrably Worse Than Any Other Porn Studio, but Mike Quasar Is a Short-Tempered, Alchoholic Asshole Who Should Get Over 30P I think this could start a meanful discussion -T.C. [Link]
Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 7:07PM Even in my drunkest moment, I have never misspelled the word "Alcoholic". Quaze [Link]
TonyC Comstock Films 2523 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 7:10PM Doh! [Link]

Coyote Member Daylight Savings Time, is it really Necessary? 972 Posts 3/04	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 9:59PM Renee- Would that be a metal or a wooden bat? Mike Quasar- It would be nice to see some anamorphic widescreen's introduced in the gonzo world. Also from the last film I saw (gaper maker) I was dissapointed that there were no behind the scenes/outtakes/cut footage or a bonus scene which was depressing beings the film was so damn good. This was the last film I saw from Zero (that I can recall-I see so many) and even mentioned it in my review that the features lacked. I do have some newer titles coming so maybe this was just a one time thing but none the less thought I should mention it. I thank you for letting us "fans/viewers" rant and give you our input! P.S. Tony C..spelling Alcoholic wrong..shame shame! [Link]
valjean4876 Member 953 Posts 3/04	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 10:02PM I guess I don't fit in Mike Quasar's box. I post at that other site for shits and giggles, and I like ZT. [Link]
Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 10:13PM valjean4876 wrote: I guess I don't fit in Mike Quasar's box. I post at that other site for shits and giggles, and I like ZT. Click to expand That was short-sighted of me to say. Not everyone that posts at "that other site" is patently evil -just the ones who dislike me (and there are many) :) Quaze [Link]
valjean4876 Member 953 Posts 3/04	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 10:43PM [Link]
Jaggers Member 140 Posts 9/03	Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 11:55PM There really are so many good companies out there these days and they seem to all be getting better and better talent to work for them. I like ZT and think their packaging and women look irresistable. I particularly got hooked with Ass Cleavage and Internal Cumbustion...FANTASTIC!! The complaints about how women are treated are mostly nonsense because the women are in lots of films and seem to like kinkier scenes as much as we do. If the Nun did not like it he would not buy it, watch it, or be fascinated enough like me to watch the same themeless hardcore fucking over and over. If you think gonzo is dead try sitting through a "FEATURE" porn movie...snooze. I don't know what goes on in most bedrooms, but my girlfriends have not been little girls and they all demand the Jewel ass-fetish treatment and talk trash for fun. Does anyone else consider sexy aggression a healthy form of fun besides me and every woman I have ever met???? It is human nature for weak people to watch what is their true compulsion, fantasy, or sexual preference and then make some nonsensical comment about sex and porn. I guess it helps to wash your hands and go dress like a nun to absolve yourself when you are feeling guilty for having whacked off and gotten your keyboard sticky. I think the Nun outfit would go over great in a gay bar if you want to get banged. ........FYI, I no longer think people will continue to pay through the nose for something they either will not ever have time to watch (I have 200 un-opened DVDs) or will only watch maybe once and can't re-sell for 10 cents on the dollar. People are really busy who are not making porn for a living or selling it or marketing it in some fashion on the net. Watching a movie is not a background activity like music, you have to actually make time to watch something, and although it all is stimulating, it would be difficult to keep up with 1% of the new releases each week or to tell which studio made the movie when you see the same girls or set-ups in all of them. Sadly the only way you can identify most movie makers is by the pool of regular male talent they use, not bad just a small and aging talent pool with big movie dicks like my girlfriend likes to watch. ..... For me a woman's ass is always in my dreams when it is not actually sitting on my face. If you don't like porn go to Iraq and see what real female and human degradation is like. Over and out. Jaggers [Link]
Renee Member 765 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 9:09AM Coyote22 wrote: Renee- Would that be a metal or a wooden bat? Click to expand Cork-filled wooden bat, that would splinter on impact. Mike Quasar can catch the splintering in slow motion. Whoever and wherever this Nun Porn guy is (I hope he's reading this), his ploy really backfired. Instead of people posting in agreement with him, there's been at least 15 fans posting about their favorite 20 or so ZT movies, which is like getting 20 or so good reviews all at once. [Link]
TheGreek Member 14 Posts 5/04	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 9:18AM I'd like to see a good only ANAL themed POV series from you guys... I have purchased the 4 Grand Theft titles and they are looking good... especially #4! [Link]
Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 10:07AM Unfortunately due to my marriage vows and unimpressive male appendage, a POV series from me is out of the question but we are presently in talks with someone unmarried and freakishly endowed to do a POV series for us. Hopefully he can also operate a camera :) Quaze [Link]
Glory Boy Member 214 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 10:37AM ZT is one of my fave (if not #1) companies. all quality titles esp Internal Cumbustion and Ass Cleavage it would be nice to see what they could do with a Gangbang series (like GB Girl) what exactly is Apprentass about...is it a comp of older ZT scenes or new scenes? the cast looks phenomenal tho [Link]
TonyC Comstock Films 2523 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 10:41AM Mike Quasar wrote: Unfortunately due to my marriage vows and unimpressive male appendage, a POV series from me is out of the question but we are presently in talks with someone unmarried and freakishly endowed to do a POV series for us. Hopefully he can also operate a camera :) Quaze Click to expand How about a Mike Quasar POV series where he is always thrwarted just before the moment of truth. Get someone like the actress who played Mud's wife in the TOS espisode MUD'S WOMEN . -T.C. [Link]

Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 10:47AM Glory Boy wrote: what exactly is Apprentass about...is it a comp of older ZT scenes or new scenes? the cast looks phenomenal tho Click to expand Apprentass is indeed a compilation of anal and D.P scenes including the now-legendary "April's first anal". There is also a brand new, previously unreleased scene on the disc. Quaze [Link]
Kperv The Cuddler *struck (She slipped) 1818 Posts 1/04	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 11:31AM TonyC wrote: Get someone like the actress who played Mud's wife in the TOS espisode MUD'S WOMEN Click to expand Surely only geeks know that TOS refers to old Star Trek. ... DOH. [Link]
scipio Senior Member 1901 Posts 2/00	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 11:54AM Mike Quasar wrote: Apprentass is indeed a compilation of anal and D.P scenes including the now-legendary "April's first anal". There is also a brand new, previously unreleased scene on the disc. Quaze Click to expand Sounds interesting... You couldn't tell us the who's and wherefroms of the scenes in it perchance, could you Quase? scipio [Link]
Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 12:00PM Among the many pornstress luminaries - Monica Sweetheart , Teagan, Olivia O Lovely and Anna Nova, Lauren Phoenix, Jessica Fiorentino, Lea Demae, Hannah Harper, Arianna Jolle, Rita Faltyano etc etc... All these scenes are culled from the assorted volumes of Grand Theft Anal, Ass Cleavage, No Holes Barred etc. and they're edited to include just the highlights. No fast forwarding required :) The brand new scene is with a latin girl named Luena Mello. Quaze [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 1:03PM ZT sucks!! Now, if they'd put Karina, Gina Ryder, April Flowers, India, Ava Vincent and Bamboo in the next Grand Theft Anal they'd be GREAT! Actually Quaze, your stuff is a little predictable, not that that sets ZT apart from most companies, you understand, but you might try a little more variety. And again, don't be afraid to shoot the ladies more than once. If they're hot, they're hot. [Link]
Jaggers Member 140 Posts 9/03	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 3:03PM Oh, I loved Sarah Blue in No Holes Barred 3. I can't think of a ZT title I did not like. The only problem I am having is with the ZT website. It does not work most of the time and there is not enough box cover information...e.g., the Sineplex/Sinsational site is fantastic, with clips, galleries, etc., the DVSX site is alsmost as good, and the PXP and RDL are really good. Hardware, In My Very Humble Opinion (IMHO) your opinion is so well respected that your comment "your stuff is predictable....try more variety" begs for some of your expertise in words, not opinions....for instance "as compared to what"? [Link]
Jaggers Member 140 Posts 9/03	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 3:08PM Make that Sarah Blue in NHB #2. Geez these serials are so darn confusing. It was number TWO but a THREE hole theme. [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 4:00PM Jaggers wrote: Hardware, In My Very Humble Opinion (IMHO) your opinion is so well respected that your comment "your stuff is predictable....try more variety" begs for some of your expertise in words, not opinions....for instance "as compared to what"? Click to expand While I appreciate the compliment I hardly consider myself an expert. Let me suggest a couple of things, though. First, the point isn't to model ZT along the lines of somebody else; I don't want them to 'be like Mike,' so I'm not interested in making comparisons. Second, gonzo has become so specialized that I realize there's a risk involved in not having all the scenes the same. Someobody's bound to complain that 'their' girl didn't do anal, or A2M, or get her feet lensed, or whatever. Still, one can have variety in the sequence of acts performed, or in the amount of clothing worn and removed. There's positions, there's timing; there are a myriad of little details that can be tweaked to give scenes individual flavors. Quaze and the others at ZT have been around long enough that they don't need me micro-managing how they go about adding variety. They just need people to remind them to put in that little bit of extra effort from time to time. [Link]
Nun Porn Deactivated User 22 Posts 5/04	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 5:37PM Mike Quasar wrote: I just wanted to start a new thread that would potentially undo whatever damage may have been done by the "Zero Tolerance Movies Suck" thread started by "Nun Porn". I originally wanted to call this thread "Nun Porn can feast on my nutsack" but then I considered that this thread might be locked as well. Anyhoo, Personally, I like our movies ( at least the ones that I shoot :). There's always room for improvement however. Legitimate fan input keeps us on our toes. Criticism is always welcome so long as it's polite. If you want to offer your vitriol anonymously and engage in cowardly name calling please visit www.xxxporntalk.com. Flacid imbeciles and newly registered sex offenders need a place to vent too. To all of you who have supported ZT during the past year and a half, thank you from the bottom of my heart. To all of you who dislike ZT but have remained civilized in your critiques, we take every comment and suggestion into consideration. Hopefully we can win you over some day. To Nun Porn, please die. Much Love, Quaze Click to expand Mike Quasar, All that you have done is confirm the negative aspects that I just knew were part of your personality. You criticize me and tell me that I am wasting my life? Considering that you are contributing absolutely nothing to the world, you should be the last person to open their mouth. When all is said and done, all you will be known for is just being another dime per dozen porn maker that made a living by exploiting other human beings. Gosh, what a great legacy. [Link]
Porn Scout Deactivated User 3735 Posts 10/02	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 5:53PM I like most ZT stuff. I'm not a big fan of the filmic look that Quaze uses, but I like his stuff otherwise. I thought The Incredible Gulp was one of the weaker swallowing movies I've seen recently and I also didn't like one of the Double Decker movies (I think it was the first one), and so I've kind of steered away from that series. Other than that, I look to Zero Tolerance as one of the best companies out there and I check their site every week to see what's coming out in the future. [Link]
Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 6:35PM Nun Porn wrote: When all is said and done, all you will be known for is just being another dime per dozen porn maker that made a living by exploiting other human beings. Gosh, what a great legacy. Click to expand ...and all you'll be known for is a guy with a nun for an avatar who apparently enjoys watching the exploiting of other human beings enough to have found this web site and I'm guessing, probably two dozen other porn related websites which you no doubt have bookmarked. Not to mention your probable collection of hundreds of porn DVD's, many of which feature girls being sodomized by sports equipment. As for your legacy, let's just say that it's unlikely anyone will see the name "Nunporn" in the same sentence as Jonas Salk or Ghandi. Thank you for your interest in Zero Tolerance Entertainment. If we can be of any further assistance to you please don't hesitate to ask. One of our friendly operators is standing by. Quaze P.S. I know where this new thread is headed now and for the sake of the ADT community I promise not to start anymore :) Edited by - Mike Quasar on 6/4/2004 6:36:05 PM [Link]
skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 6:37PM 86 the Nunporn! Who are these stooges? Quel amusing. [Link]
dumblonde Senior Member 2352 Posts 7/00	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 6:53PM I had a long rant written, but I see that Nun Porn is now Nun Porn Deactivated User, so I'll just say this - Dude, maybe that nun's habit is too tight and is cutting off blood circulation to your brain or maybe you've been jerking off too much, but you obviously have Quaze mixed up with someone else. [Link]
Renee Member 765 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 10:25PM Darn it, I missed my chance to have some more fun with NunPorn. But, Mike Quasar probably had it right, NP is probably a guy who is, as we speak, over at xxxporntalk.com, posting away about the mean people over at ADT. Thankfully there is a place for poor souls such as him to vent his spleen. I wonder if he does indeed have Zero Tolerance and/or Mike Quasar mixed up with some other entities. [Link]
skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 11:08PM There's a whole thread at XXXPT about this topic. [Link]
Cleetus VanDamme Member I have a high art, I hurt with cruelty those who would damage me. 225 Posts 4/04	Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 11:31PM The topic over at xxxporntalk got started because Mike Quasar brought them up first here, I don't generally see too many posts about Mike Quasar over there at all (at least recently). Edited by - cleetus vandamme on 6/4/2004 11:34:16 PM [Link]