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| cubbiefanoc Member 474 Posts 4/15 |  Posted - Oct 6 2016 : 2:39PMNominations for the 2017 AVN Awards closed several days ago. The period covered is October 1, 2015 - September 30, 2016. When nominations come out, 15 performers will have been nominated. Who do you think will be this year's Best New Starlet? Here are my predicted nominees for this year's awards: Alex Grey Jo Jo Kiss Kimmy Granger Amara Romani Melissa Moore Tiffany Watson Holly Hendrix Anya Olsen Gina Valentina Lana Rhoades Leah Gotti Angel Smalls Sydney Cole Kristen Scott Elsa Jean It is always difficult in this category to know exactly who qualifies as Best New Starlet. Some of the performers above may have had their first scene prior to October 1, 2015. How does AVN decide who qualifies? As an example, Elsa Jean had about 20 scenes from July 2015-September 2015? WOW. Difficult category to predict a winner. Lana and Leah would have been contenders but they may no longer are in the industry. Personally, my favorite performer out of this group is Kimmy Granger so I would like to see her win. I also think that Holly Hendrix has a great shot at being named due to her gonzo showcase for Evil Angel.  [Link] |
Mister Fahrenheit  All-Star Member Meh 4655 Posts 10/13 | Posted - Oct 6 2016 : 3:17PM As for the actual POTY award, it's really tough for me to pick a winner. There hasn't been a single performer who dominated the porn landscape this year in the same way as years past. They might give it to Adriana Chechik to make-up for her loss last year. Many people had her favored to win and were a little shocked at the outcome. EDIT: Oops, misread the title and thought this was the thread you started for POTY. Doh. Edited by - Mister Fahrenheit on 10/6/2016 3:54:59 PM  [Link] |
| Slice Backhand Member 99 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Oct 6 2016 : 3:34PM [Link] |
| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Oct 6 2016 : 6:49PM [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Oct 6 2016 : 8:04PM [Link] |
| fanofman Senior Member 2053 Posts 9/15 | Posted - Oct 6 2016 : 8:09PM [Link] |
| MorganKane Senior Member 6037 Posts 10/10 | Posted - Oct 6 2016 : 9:53PM [Link] |
| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Oct 6 2016 : 10:05PM Don't think so, I believe 2 years in the industry is the cutoff and she's been around for about 2 and a half if her ADT thread is any indication. [Link] |
| aclayfan All-Star Member 5059 Posts 8/11 | Posted - Oct 7 2016 : 12:50AM [Link] |
| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | Posted - Oct 7 2016 : 1:03AM As for that list of (possible) nominees in the original post, I would point to Holly Hendrix as a favorite. Both Lana Rhoades and Leah Gotti have the popularity that would warrant serious consideration, but seeing how both have seemingly called it quits, I can't imagine they'd give the award to a girl who's no longer active. Actually, I guess Lana Rhoades intends to come back (judging by recent posts in her Star Crossed thread), but the way she "aired her dirty laundry" about Spiegler when she abruptly called it quits makes it very unlikely the voters would give her this award.  [Link] |
| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Oct 7 2016 : 1:16AM I think Kimmy's a favorite because she's young, cute, energetic, and has shot for nearly every major company at this point (most of them more than once). And she seems to be well like among her peers and producers. She's not my favorite performer on the list (I'd probably put her behind Leah, Elsa, Angel Smalls, and maybe Melissa and Alex Grey), but I think outside of Leah and/or Lana coming back she has the highest profile out of all the likely nominees. And that's even though Holly has a showcase. [Link] |
| epistimonas Senior Member 2570 Posts 6/15 | Posted - Oct 7 2016 : 5:24AM [Link] |
| epistimonas Senior Member 2570 Posts 6/15 | Posted - Oct 7 2016 : 5:30AM [Link] |
| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Oct 7 2016 : 11:08AM They're arguably supposed to be about performance, but I would argue right now that the last time that the most popular performer didn't win Best New Starlet was probably Stoya beating out Jayden Jaymes in 2009. And Stoya is no slouch popularity-wise. Edit: And that's ignoring that performance in and of itself is a fairly subjective thing, as one person's underacting is another person's "being realistic" and one person's overacting is another person's "really getting into the scene". Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 10/7/2016 11:31:52 AM [Link] |
| fanofman Senior Member 2053 Posts 9/15 | Posted - Oct 7 2016 : 11:23AM [Link] |
| sonofharpy Deactivated User 910 Posts 7/16 | Posted - Oct 7 2016 : 11:40AM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Oct 7 2016 : 11:59AM Kimmy Granger  It's called star-quality. And, seemingly being nice to, and well-liked, by everybody. Great girl, great performer, attractive, pleasant and no drama  [Link] |
| Real Deactivated User 300 Posts 1/16 | Posted - Oct 7 2016 : 12:46PM Or: Angel Smalls. Kimmy may not be as topmodel-pretty as some of the other girls but she is very relatable and a very good overall performer. Plus Kimmys connection and similarity to a celebrity like Hermione Granger/Emma Watson makes her also even more attractive and makes her stand out much more. Angel Smalls has the super-pretty looks and the cute-factor. Kylie Page also has the potential. [Link] |
| pornlover74 Deactivated User 188 Posts 5/15 | Posted - Oct 7 2016 : 1:13PM [Link] |
| MorganKane Senior Member 6037 Posts 10/10 | Posted - Oct 7 2016 : 10:48PM [Link] |
| Shammgod75 Deactivated User 12 Posts 10/16 | Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 1:31AM Edited by - killbillvol69 on 10/8/2016 12:13:20 PM [Link] |
| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 2:15AM [Link] |
| epistimonas Senior Member 2570 Posts 6/15 | Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:39AM [Link] |
| Redish Poetic Moderator Long and Cursive road to the Ivory Pagoda in the province of Loraine 4076 Posts 12/03 | Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 4:46AM With Leah and Lana both gone, I don't see either one winning. [Link] |
| iBrand0nX Member 116 Posts 11/15 | Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 3:45PM [Link] |
| epistimonas Senior Member 2570 Posts 6/15 | Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 4:18PM [Link] |
| fanofman Senior Member 2053 Posts 9/15 | Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 5:38PM [Link] |
| epistimonas Senior Member 2570 Posts 6/15 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 4:39AM [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 5:36AM Edited by - BlackSix on 10/12/2016 12:13:19 AM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:40PM [Link] |
| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:42PM And AVN tends to have that problem, too. [Link] |
| fanofman Senior Member 2053 Posts 9/15 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 1:02PM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 1:24PM Here is the list of all the FPOTY winners (source: wikipedia) 1993 Ashlyn Gere 1994 Debi Diamond 1995 Asia Carrera 1996 Kaitlyn Ashley 1997 Missy 1998 Stephanie Swift 1999 Chloe 2000 Inari Vachs 2001 Jewel De'Nyle 2002 Nikita Denise 2003 Aurora Snow 2004 Ashley Blue 2005 Lauren Phoenix 2006 Audrey Hollander 2007 Hillary Scott 2008 Sasha Grey 2009 Jenna Haze 2010 Tori Black 2011 Tori Black 2012 Bobbi Starr 2013 Asa Akira 2014 Bonnie Rotten 2015 Anikka Albrite 2016 Riley Reid And the list of all Best New Starlet Performers (source: wikipedia) 1984 Rachel Ashley 1985 Ginger Lynn 1986 Angel 1987 Barbara Dare 1988 Samantha Strong 1989 Aja 1990 (Tie) Victoria Paris and Tori Welles 1991 Jennifer Stewart 1992 Savannah 1993 Alex Jordan 1994 Shayla LaVeaux 1995 Kylie Ireland 1996 Jenna Jameson 1997 Missy 1998 Johnni Black 1999 Alisha Klass 2000 Bridgette Kerkove 2001 Tera Patrick 2002 Violet Blue 2003 Jenna Haze 2004 Stormy 2005 Cytherea 2006 McKenzie Lee 2007 Naomi 2008 Bree Olson 2009 Stoya 2010 Kagney Linn Karter 2011 Gracie Glam 2012 Brooklyn Lee 2013 Remy LaCroix 2014 Mia Malkova 2015 Carter Cruise 2016 Abella Danger [Link] |
| iBrand0nX Member 116 Posts 11/15 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 1:43PM [Link] |
| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 6:29PM So 2 Asian women have won FPOTY (Asia Carrera and Asa Akira), but no black women, and maybe 1 Latina, I'm not entire sure of the ethnicity of some of the more tanned women. And I think that Best New Starlet list is all white. [Link] |
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| Dragon Sign Deactivated User 3381 Posts 12/13 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 6:40PM [Link] |
| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 8:09PM [Link] |
| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 9:14PM Define popular. If we want to go by the most basic metric of popular (Twitter Followers), she has more than everyone on the list in the OP. According to Data18, she has shot more scenes for more companies/sites than everyone on that list as well. [Link] |
| TheFanguy All-Star Member I❤️Dillion 913 Posts 4/15 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 9:45PM ...I unfortunately don't see that being a possibility either. I know...bummer...[Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 9:53PM Leah Gotti (24) Melissa Moore (60) Alex Grey (80) Kimmy actually comes in fifth, at 136 Edited by - killbillvol69 on 10/9/2016 9:54:11 PM [Link] |
| fanofman Senior Member 2053 Posts 9/15 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 9:59PM Edited by - fanofman on 10/9/2016 10:09:18 PM [Link] |
| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 10:17PM You missed Anya Olson coming in at 37 as well. Though I'm not sure of how much I trust the Yesterday rating, which is where it looks like these came from. Not that I think it's fake, but that IIRC it can be influenced by that performer having content linked on the Freeones front page recently. [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 11:35PM And yeah, the "yesterday" rankings can be finicky. I was just giving that as an example of how different ways of determining "popularity" can show different results. (Just for research purposes, I switched to "90 days" and we have Leah Gotti (48), Melissa Moore (52) and Anya Olsen (57) so it's still the same girls at the top.) I don't envy the job of the AVN voters. No matter who you choose, virtually everyone will be angry with you. And they will probably let you know how angry they are, over and over and over again. [Link] |
| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 11:55PM I agree. Even though I still think they've made some choices that make no sense in any context and were just a matter of picking a name they'd heard recently if I'm being nice (as a simple example, they've done a terrible job of picking Best Studio Site on more than one occasion), when it comes to performers and performances they have decisions to make that don't really have clear answers and will upset some people either way. [Link] |
| sonofharpy Deactivated User 910 Posts 7/16 | Posted - Oct 10 2016 : 12:48AM Either ways hopefully the AVN chooses the one who deserves to win it. [Link] |
| bono-ONE All-Star Member SAMCRO 8571 Posts 8/00 | Posted - Oct 10 2016 : 11:33AM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Oct 10 2016 : 12:07PM Go look at Freeones Most Popular Babes list and sort it (filter options) for "last year" to make it more meaningful for their statistic. Hey, if we were considering girls now gone as "viable," I'd be pushing for Staci Carr #25 (as my cock can't see straight when she's onscreen)  Yeah, yeah... I can just hear the "too vanilla" guys now... One thing that Freeones rankings don't tell me, for example, is why people are looking for and rating particular girls the way they do? For example, Belle Knox is still ranked at #68 over the past year. I, for one, loved her. BUT, she was hardly the "most attractive," "best performer," "most scenes," "nastiest," "does IR" girl out there, that so many seem to feel is important. And, she's been gone for how long, now? Still #68. FYI, Erica Campbell -- retired since 2008 -- is Freeones #1 ranked Babe over the past year. This tells us what? From our OP list, relevant girls would seem to be: #14 Leah Gotti #15 Anya Olsen #26 Alex Grey #36 Elsa Jean The other girls from our OP list are not even in the Freeones "top 100" over the last year. One thing that is suggested to me is that, being around for the whole year seems to make a difference in the Freeones rankings. Girls that have been around a bit longer (ex: Kimmy Granger), have seen their interest wane a bit. Girls that didn't show up until later in 2016 (ex: Lana Rhoades), haven't built-up the numbers yet. So, considering the full last year seems to make a difference as far as Freeones rankings go. Let's take a moment to consider another important factor on Freeones: How much free stuff do particular girls have available to be seen by the fans? I'll bet this influences the statistics a great deal. [Link] |
| kacie castle Member 50 Posts 2/16 | Posted - Oct 10 2016 : 1:00PM [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Oct 10 2016 : 4:46PM [Link] |
| Rondoe99 Deactivated User 231 Posts 1/16 | Posted - Oct 10 2016 : 10:52PM Edited by - rondoe99 on 10/10/2016 10:53:29 PM [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Oct 11 2016 : 12:08AM [Link] |
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