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Empire Man
AdultDVDEmpire.com


165 Posts
12/00
Posted - Jul 21 2005 : 3:33PM
Just so you guys are aware...

We launched a 2257 sale this week.

BAsically, every title that has a box cover retricted by the 2257 reg is on sale.

Whats the discount you may ask?

22.57% : )

get it?

aybesea
Senior Member

Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Jul 21 2005 : 4:07PM
barrybrn
Senior Member

1568 Posts
9/03
Posted - Jul 21 2005 : 8:22PM
I am sure no boxcovers(on some titles) and no screenshots is going to make it harder to sell porn.
mission
Member

41 Posts
9/03
Posted - Jul 22 2005 : 12:56AM
I have not purchase a DVD from Empire since they stopped having screen shots. Since there are so many titles available, it is hard to decide what to buy and the screen shots are a deciding factor. Empire, please bring back the screen shots as soon as possible.

I must also commend Empire for having the best screen shots. Each scene has 3-4 shots giving a total of 15-18 screen shots. There is an intro screen shot, a couple of position screen shot (including close ups where applicable) and a conclusion screen shot. These screen shots pretty much give a picture of what to expect from the DVD. Sometimes from the shots, you can tell if the video is good or if it is a dark scene.

Here's something for Empire to consider. We know you have to withdraw the screen shots due to 2257. We also know that certain stars are above 18. For example, North Pole 16. The stars are Lea De Mae, Gauge, Dominica Leoni, Aurora Snow, Vanda. Everybody knows Lea De Mae, Gauge, Dominica Leoni, Aurora Snow and Vanda are above 18. Even if one does not know, a check with the U.S.C. TITLE 18, SECTION 2257 would confirm that these stars are above 18. In such a case, since these stars are registered and certified above 18, why not have the screen shots? Right now, Empire simply remove any photos showing explicit content regardless of whether the star is registered or not. It's the explicit shots that consumers want to view.

I'm sure that if Empire starts putting back screen shots for stars known/confirmed 18 years, people would start buying. And if you are wondering why people are not buying, we are waiting for the screen shots.

Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - Jul 22 2005 : 1:52AM
It doesn't matter what "everyone knows". In order to use the screen shots that you are talking about, Empire would need to be in posession of the records proving that all performers were over 18 at the time of the production.

The fact that the studio that shot the DVD is in posession of these records is not good enough anymore.

 
MasterB
AdultDVDEmpire.com

Pittsburgh, PA U.S.A.
75 Posts
3/00
Posted - Jul 22 2005 : 8:24AM
mission,
unfortunately, it doesn't matter if i personally knew all the girls you listed. without proper documentation from the producing studio we cannot show hardcore content. period.

it sucks for everyone. not to sound whiney, but it takes an awful lot of resources (read mulah, dinero, $$$) to produce and store the content that we do - screen shots, scene indexes, etc.

so trust me, we would LOVE to keep showing our 100,000+ screen shots! hopefully, the courts will decide in our favor and strike down these ridiculous regulations.

until then, we thought this would be a cool way to show adult entertainment fans that we feel their frustration.

MikeB
Adult DVD Empire

mission
Member

41 Posts
9/03
Posted - Jul 23 2005 : 1:10AM
MikeB and Bill:

Thanks for clarifying the 2257 requirements.

Here's another long shot:

The DVD always says the records are maintained by Mr X with the address in their 2257 compliance statement. Is it not possible to write to the custodian of records and obtained copies of the records? (Surely Digital Sin, Hustler etc would be happy to provide these records to their retailers) And with copies of the records, Empire would be legally able to show explicit content of the stars that have the required records.

Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - Jul 23 2005 : 2:29PM
That may be necessary should the current cases go in the favor of the DOJ. However, is is really appropriate for every Internet retailer to have records of the real name, address and birth date of every performer in every DVD that they sell?

The privacy implications of something like this surely outweigh the alleged efforts of the DOJ when they claim that requiring everyone to maintain records will reduce child pornography. There is no way that the DOJ can prove that requiring retailers to maintain these records would have any effect greater than requiring the original producer to maintain the same records.

IMO, the final result of this will be that the retailers will need to state where the 2257 information is maintained by the original producer for every title that they sell. It won't be enough to just point all Evil Angel titles to Evil Angel, it will be necessary to show the exact same disclaimer informtion that appears on each specific title, including date of production and the name of the record keeper.

ogog
Member

19 Posts
4/03
Posted - Jul 23 2005 : 3:56PM
Why don't you just show screen shots of non-sex moments? That would be enough to get a sense of whether the lighting and camerawork is any good or not.
Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Jul 25 2005 : 4:28PM
There's no such thing as a registered and certified list of porn stars. Porn stars don't receive a government issued "fucking license" akin to a "drivers license" allowing people to drive.

Please read some of the other 2257 related threads. Just click the searh link near the top of the forum, type in 2257 and set the data range to at least 60 days. You'll learn a lot.





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