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| Ordell Deactivated User 1042 Posts 6/05 |  Posted - Jun 18 2005 : 10:40PMCould this nuisance law actually have a benefit? I say yes, and here's why. Porn has been utterly flooded with a glut and then some of product. The end result has been an endless parade of gaping assholes and anonymous faces. How many stars has the industry created in this decade? Real stars, I mean? Someone who can last more than a month, whose face moves product. We have wall-to-walls in triple digit editions with an endless parade of unknown girls who do one or two movies and split. In the early 1990s, I knew all the big stars, and girls could establish themselves as a star without getting crude. Think Victoria Paris or Nikki Dial could get away with their style of performing now? Now, it seems like the only way to get any attention is to get as far into the gutter as possible, or take the most abuse. Plus, production has never been worse. Stuff is knocked out in days with absolutely no care at all because it's time to move on to do Fuck Pigs #74. With a lot fewer girls available and the international market shut off, we will see less product coming out, and hopefully this means more time and care will be put into the product (production these days is so sloppy), girls who can establish a name brand, and maybe an improvement in quality. [Link] |
| croy Platinum Member Discovry 4574 Posts 3/04 | Posted - Jun 18 2005 : 10:49PM [Link] |
| Drew Black broken crankshaft 8011 Posts 9/99 | Posted - Jun 18 2005 : 10:50PM I think it will result in more companies doing what Vivid does. While Vivid may actually make a few movies once in a while, the vast majority of the product they release is re-hashed, re-edited and re-titled. I expect to see more of this. I'm not saying it's a good thing. [Link] |
| Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01 | Posted - Jun 18 2005 : 10:54PM Quaze [Link] |
| Drew Black broken crankshaft 8011 Posts 9/99 | Posted - Jun 18 2005 : 11:25PM [Link] |
| Cyberchicken Member 900 Posts 4/02 | Posted - Jun 18 2005 : 11:28PM I suspect there are far too many fans who would rather purchases a low quality movie, because it stars their favorite it-girl, than buy a quality movie with performers that don't interest them. I admit to doing the same thing myself. [Link] |
| M.B. Senior Member 1679 Posts 2/01 | Posted - Jun 18 2005 : 11:30PM I've been going to the same two video stores in my neighborhood for 15 years. The people that own and run them tell me that their best sellers on a consistent basis are those garbage 4 hr comps, the Leisure Time stuff. This is some of the worst quality available as far as porn is concerned, but people see the $9.95 price tag and buy it anyway. It also rents very well, the customer thinks they are getting a deal. But there's usually one or two decent scenes and the comp isn't 4 hours anyway, it's usually around 3. As long as people still fall for buying garbage, it'll still be produced. I miss the late 70's - late 80's porn scene. Seka, Vanessa Del Rio, Amber Lynn, Ginger Lynn, Nina Hartley, Christy Canyon, Marilyn Chambers, John Holmes. Those were porn stars. The only name I could think of from todays scene that can be mentioned in the same breath is Jenna Jameson. How she managed to rise above the thousands of other girls in this here today gone tomorrow business is a feat unto itself.
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| Ordell Deactivated User 1042 Posts 6/05 | Posted - Jun 19 2005 : 1:29AM I wish we would do more movies like in Japan, where there's one girl in the video, in every scene. That way you know you're getting nothing but your favorite. Saved me the trouble of buying a boatload of Sora Aoi discs. :) [Link] |
| Ordell Deactivated User 1042 Posts 6/05 | Posted - Jun 19 2005 : 1:31AM However, studios have reps. Despite everything else wrong with Vivid and it's mannequins, they have decent production values. [Link] |
| respect Member 200 Posts 11/04 | Posted - Jun 19 2005 : 8:37AM [Link] |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | Posted - Jun 19 2005 : 1:59PM I want to agree. Man, do I ever want to agree. However, I think it is just too optimistic to predict a creative renaissance out of necessity in reponse to 2257. I think both Drew and Quaze are right. Logically, this has a better chance of leading to more compilations instead of better product, and the only way to force crap out of the market is not through heightened regulations but by simply not buying it. "How many people buy a title simply because it has a certain girl, and not because the director has a strong reputation for delivering quality porn." I don't. There are many directors and various companies that I won't touch. It would take TSC in a comeback film for these directors or companies to get me to check them out again. However, I think fans like myself are the exception and you are probably right. Edited by - tscfan317 on 6/19/2005 2:37:14 PM [Link] |
| Tinaka Member 953 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Jun 19 2005 : 2:55PM Edited by - Tinaka on 6/19/2005 2:56:39 PM [Link] |
| Ordell Deactivated User 1042 Posts 6/05 | Posted - Jun 19 2005 : 9:59PM I just hope that by thinning the talent pool, such as it is, it will mean less product and hopefully and improvement in the product. [Link] |
| croy Platinum Member Discovry 4574 Posts 3/04 | Posted - Jun 19 2005 : 10:22PM These days everybody is so prolific that it isn't a hassle. Back in the days of Nikki Dial, an entire career might be 20-100 movies. Bridgette Kerkove topped that (and maybe tripled it) in her first year alone! Certainly by the end of three months there are usually dozens of scenes in the can awaiting editing. A slow down will never bring higher quality. Higher quality takes time and money. If a director can put together a well filmed scene with good editing in 1/3 the time of a feature, he will make more. Certainly the sales numbers point to gonzo as being the mainstream of porn. [Link] |
| VincentVanGauge Former Fucking Virgin Paying trib-ute to SinncentVanSage 1412 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Jun 19 2005 : 11:26PM As for the 2257 stuff I think with fewer studios quality will not become better. Lacking alternatives porn fans will have to get their stuff at the studios that remain, so these studios can afford to produce crap a lot easier. Of course I hope the number of studios won't decline so dramatically but you never know. If government wants to destroy the industry I'm afraid many will be forced to give up. Better go chasing Osama again. There's no 'I' in fuck, bang, screw or shag but two of 'em in virgin. [Link] |
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