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neondon
Member


134 Posts
5/04
Posted - Jul 6 2004 : 7:25PM
If I am correct, Spyware is able to record the keys you type for your usernames and passwords. Try this. Type both words separately in one of your Words documents. When you need them, just highlight, copy, and paste to the little boxes where they are needed. This way no keystrokes of your secret words or numbers are recorded and stolen. Does this help? If not, LMK.

I understand crooks have been using the stolen codes to rip off EBay and Paypal. I stopped using Paypal years ago when I got phished. Seems they used my account 3 times, but only 1 email notified me of the purchases of porno. I got suspicious when there was no explanation of what it was I bought. I quicly emailed Paypal, and luckily someone emailed me back quickly and shut down my account and the account of the seller. The reason I got only 1 email instead of 3 was that they had software to intercept my emails and prevent me from knowing what was going on. But one did slip through, and that was all I needed to blow up. I shut down and closed my Paypal account, and I'm glad I did. I was disappointed that Paypal did not keep me informed whether they followed up on the seller or whether they notified the FBI. Strangely, I received 3 cerified letters in the mail a week later. After signing for them, each contained a single white piece of typing paper with nothing on them. No white powder. No nothing. I think they're mad I was too smart for them. Since I hardly use Ebay, I just pay by credit card or send a personal check or money order if they desire. Ebay is really a risky bet. If they screw you, their State AG won't waste their time for just itty bitty you. Too many unfortunate fools like you. If you bought from a company, then yes, you will be helped. Private sellers, forget it.

Hope this helps. Share if you can.

Saki
At-Large

2087 Posts
11/99
Posted - Jul 6 2004 : 8:17PM
A few of things:

- Spyware is a general term for a broad category of methods to monitor or track your online behavior. In some cases, it's used for mostly legitimate purposes such as advertising ("adware"). Other times, it's used for less morally acceptable means (such as flooding you with pop up ads, changing your home page, etc.). The worst category is called "malware," which involves keystroke loggers, backdoors, phishers, etc.

- It depends on how the logger operates, but cutting and pasting to the keyboard buffer may not defeat the logger. Besides, it opens you up for a different type of attack (such as someone stealing the file off your hard drive or another user stumbling onto it while using your computer). Would you write down your bank account number and secret phrase and put it in your desk drawer?

- The risks are not just with eBay or PayPal (which is now an eBay company), but most online banks and stores are increasingly a target of the scams. Bottom line: don't trust any e-mail that you get, no matter how official it is. If a company legitimately needs information, they will always have a way for you to update that information via an unsolicited visit to their site or by alternate method (postal, fax, or telephone). You should never send sensitive information via e-mail, since it's unencrypted.

- You don't have to worry as much about spyware threats if you do the following:

1. Keep your operating system and software updated. For Windows PC's, visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com on at least a monthly basis. Nearly all worms and attacks exploit vulnerabilities that have already been fixed by Microsoft.

2. Install an antivirus software package and keep it updated. This will usually keep you from becoming infected if you do something stupid or are not up-to-date on your patches. A/V also will prevent you from unintentionally sending a virus to someone else. Run a scan on your hard drive at least once a week.

3. Install a personal firewall program. This prevents unauthorized people or programs from accessing or attacking your PC. Although I recommend you use a personal firewall even if you are using dial-up, it's especially important that you do so if you're on a DSL or cable modem connection. Some personal firewall programs won't allow designated personal information (such as bank account numbers and your SSN) to leave your computer unless you specifically allow it. If you're really cheap, Windows XP has a built-in firewall that you can turn on (better than nothing).

4. Install and run anti-spyware programs. Two that I use and recommend are Ad-Aware and SpyBot Search-and-Destroy. They scan your computer for signs of spyware and lets you eliminate them. SpyBot even has a tool to "innoculate" your computer against some common spyware tactics.

5. Use common sense when opening attachments. Even if the sender is familiar to you, don't open the document unless you know what it is. Don't be afraid to e-mail the sender and ask if they sent you something (and if so, what it is). Don't fall for the "here's a document for your review," "let me know what you think of this," or "undelivered mail returned to sender" tricks. Don't open any attachment with filenames that end in .bat, .pif, .exe, .com, etc.

6. Don't visit shady sites. Avoid TGP, illegal porn sites, warez sites, MP3 sites, etc. You don't go wandering into dark, crime infested alleys at night, do you?

7. Don't click on pop-ups that say "your computer is vulnerable," or "download this security patch" or "click here to download this cool helper program," etc.

8. Ditch Internet Explorer. Not a month goes by when Microsoft doesn't issue a security patch for the most common web browser on the planet. Common + holes = lots of attacks. Find another broswer, such as Opera or Mozilla. If you don't want to give up IE, make sure you're following recommendations 1-7 above--religiously.

9. Make sure you back up your important data. Once a bad virus or bad luck hits you, you'll never get it back, so burn it to CD, copy it to floppies, copy it to a different computer, or print it out.

Hope that helps. Stay safe.

- Saki [faqs]

vincevega
Member

131 Posts
11/02
Posted - Jul 6 2004 : 8:43PM
Go to www.javacoolsoftware.com and download Spyware Blaster and Spyware Guard. Both exellent, both free. These are must haves along with Adaware and Spybot.
GaySatyr
Senior Member

Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jul 6 2004 : 9:12PM
Two more suggestions:
  • If you are using Microsoft's Internet Explorer, visit Google.com's home page, click on 'more' and install the Google toolbar -- in addition to its search function, it includes a fairly effective, free pop-up stopper. (I don't use its form-fill-in function but its search tools are great.)
  • If you have a broadband connection (Cable or DSL), get a router which incorporates a firewall and NAT (network address translation). US Robotics (among others) makes an excellent model (USR-8000A, & at CDW) that is quite inexpensive.
~ GaySatyr
earl
Member

36 Posts
6/04
Posted - Jul 6 2004 : 9:36PM
I might say "Use Firefox instead of IE" to solve many problems.

The new version of Spybot (v1.3) has a pretty decent list of hosts to add to your hosts file which basically routes all unwanted traffic (i.e. ad.doubleclick.com, etc.) to 127.0.0.1 (your own machine) thus blocking all sorts of stuff.

Obviously, using Kazaa, etc. opens up all sorts of security issues, not to mention the "freeware" that is bundled with it.

Sadly, Microsoft doesn't patch things as quickly as the could/should. there's some vulnerability out that they know about, is ready in XP SP2, but not before, and that SP is (a) massive and (b) going to wreak havoc on unsuspecting folk who are suddenly locked out of things due to MS's new firewall, etc.

A good overview of SP2 can be found here: http://www.woodyswatch.com/windows/archtemplate.asp?7-09

 
nietzsche
Deactivated User

5470 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jul 7 2004 : 12:39PM
Uh, what is a 'phisher'?
Saki
At-Large

2087 Posts
11/99
Posted - Jul 7 2004 : 1:39PM
One who engages in phishing.

- Saki [faqs]

nietzsche
Deactivated User

5470 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jul 7 2004 : 1:49PM
Ah thanks. I've heard of that but didn't know it had a name.



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