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dumblonde
Senior Member


2352 Posts
7/00
Posted - Sep 1 2001 : 11:46PM
It seems I've ruffled the feathers of more than a few of Seymore Butt's disciples with my latest review, and the Squirting Wars rage on, threatening the dam of all reason and logic.
My controversal expose 'Female Spunk Debunked' is not even completed, and it already promises to be a real pissing contest.
Although it's not something I relish, please know that I'm holding fast with my finger in the dyke, so to speak. Again, let me state that it's not this practice that I object to, it's the mistaken belief that it is "female ejaculation".
It's time for a reality bitchslap.

To those well meaning folks who have been sending me literature on 'female ejaculation', please do not send me any more testimonials, or articles written by anyone other than a real physician. I've read them all before, and I have done my homework,
Dr. G. Spot, people from the porn industry or anyone affiliated with a website dealing with this subject, as well as guys who want to tell me they have experienced this first hand, and it's "not pee", will be welcomed as warmly as a Jehovah's Witness knocking on my door on a morning when I have a bad hangover.

Thank you, and stay tuned....
DB

dexplorer
Member

442 Posts
8/01
Posted - Sep 2 2001 : 12:46AM
I read it Blondie, and I immediately thought you had it basically nailed. Technically.

On the other hand, I give my props to Seymore and others for popularizing (well, within a rather demented somewhat wider circle I guess) a "new" sexual kink. I mean the idea of being pissed upon normally doesn't turn me on -- it doesn't repulse me either, it just seems rather pointless, and, well, a clean up job.

But being squirted by WHATEVER at ejaculation time, when animal abandonment rules -- well THAT'S JUST PLAIN HOT!! It's in a different category. It's, you know, ANIMAL heat stuff. (Besides, unlike crap, piss is bacteria clean. In fact, it's rather like our body's chemical waste dump. Few living things survive total immersion in piss. It's an acidic cleaning agent. Seriously. They used to use it to clean clothes and other stuff in the Middle Ages, or so I've learned.)

So while I think you got it going on technically Blondie, I think you need to pay more attention to the "moving the imagination art form" side of it as well.

Not that you didn't pay some attention to that side. Just not enough.

I love your screen name BTW.

It's an art form unto itself.

To understand what I mean, consider how few regulars here, or for that matter any guys here, actually refer to you as "Dumb Blonde". As you name yourself. Yet imagine how many are intrigued deah, I know you knew all that ab initio. Props.

Whanna fu*k?

We don't gotta tell you husband, you know. Stealth.

Let me be your candy man!! <gin>

Edited by - dexplorer on Sep 2 2001

Speelie
Senior Member

Fort Collins, CO
1191 Posts
5/01
Posted - Sep 2 2001 : 1:40PM
Blondie, I think dexplorer makes some good points. The reason people have trouble with your review is that you seem to be shouting, "Wake up, it's just piss, she's taking a piss!"
But we all know that when women (and men) "take a piss" they are doing a conscious act, they are relieving the pressure in their bladder by exposing their urethra to the world in such a way that they can urinate out a stream of urine.
"Squirting" on the other hand, is what sometimes happens when a woman experiences a powerful orgasm in the middle of a sexual encounter. The liquid, regardless of what it is, often emerges not as a stream, but as a sort of "wall of droplets" (especially if the means of reaching orgasm was via fingers inserted into the vagina).
This isn't to say that squirting in pornos isn't faked on many occasions, but again, when the phenomena occurs in real life, it isn't a matter of the woman deciding, "OK, I'm going to piss right now."
I think this is what has bugged your readers, you make it sound as though you are stating, "I'm so smart, I've seen through the magic trick, and you are all suckers for believing that squirting exists, when actually, you are getting pissed on." Women who experience squirting make it clear that they are not deliberately trying to urinate, and that a spontaneous event is happening beyond their control. And when this spontaneity is captured on film, it can be a beautiful thing. Yet you seem to suggest that these beautiful moments are worthless shams, and perhaps this is what causes so many feathers to get ruffled.
Reason
Member

135 Posts
1/00
Posted - Sep 2 2001 : 3:51PM

I don't know, there seems to be something devious in the rhetoric of the review. DB seems to find Glasser unappealing and dishonest ("looking very pimp-like"), but only insinuates this by pouring in whole bucketfuls of irony and proposing that he has been "duped", because such a smart guy wouldn't do something like bypass the ban on golden showers by passing them off as female ejaculation - while the message between the lines is that that's exactly what he is doing. Certainly he wasn't duped by Alisha Klass, because he was doing the squirting vids before he hooked up with her.

One supposes this practice (squirting) will be discussed in his trial.

The references to physical nausea as a result of watching the video, dramatic as they were, seemed a little bit clichéd. I wonder what kind of descriptions we would get if DB were to review something like this title.

It was some science fiction writer, probably Joe Haldeman, who once said that people who read science fiction to learn physics deserve what they get. To paraphrase, people who turn to porn (and especially to someone who calls himself "Seymore Butts") for sex education certainly deserve what they get.

To some people the female ejaculation concept is a political issue. There's a lot of feminist stuff about it if you search the web. Here's a link to one somewhat amusing document(a transcript of a radio show with several experts discussing the phenomenon, as well as a live demonstration).


dumblonde
Senior Member

2352 Posts
7/00
Posted - Sep 4 2001 : 1:10PM
quote dexplorer: "But being squirted by WHATEVER at ejaculation time, when animal abandonment rules -- well THAT'S JUST PLAIN HOT!! It's in a different category. It's, you know, ANIMAL heat stuff."

Thanks, dexplorer, we seem to be on the same wavelength here. Like you, I don't have a fetish for it, but I have experienced that animal heat stuff you mentioned, and I will go into more detail in the article. It's not something that I would do without knowing how my partner felt about it, however.
So, my objection is not with this practice at all, I think Seymore's flick was just too much of it actually, plus the other gross visuals didn't help.

Speelie,
The majority of 'complaints' I've received, have been from guys mistakingly thinking that I wasn't aware of what squirting was, and in their patronizing way, have been inundating me with all the old stuff. Then there's the ones who agree that it's fake in the movies, but their wife/GF
does it for real, and "it's not pee".

There didn't seem to be anything spontaneous about it, and then when it did happen, it was overdone. But, that's just my opinion - others might indeed find it a beautiful thing.
Even so, I agree when it is filmed right, it can be very erotic.
I didn't mean to come across as "I'm so smart", but I do know what 'squirting' is, as I have learned how to do it my self, and have done it. It is very much a controlled act,
however. The only time it would be spontaneous, or involuntary, is when incontinence is involved. All I'm trying to do is dispel this 'female ejaculation' misnomer,
though even this seems to anger some people.

Take care,
DB


Reason,
Devious? Tongue-in-cheek, and cautious, maybe, but if I wanted to be devious (and why would I?), I would have been much more subtle.
I don't find Glasser unappealing at all, in fact I stated I thought he was a good looking guy, only that he did indeed look very pimp-like in those shots.
So, if I had just come out and said that I thought he was being dishonest, that is not really correct either, because I UNDERSTAND the reason he cannot just come out and say it - same reason I didn't.

quote: "The references to physical nausea as a result of watching the video, dramatic as they were, seemed a little bit clichéd."
That was nothing more than a little humor thrown in, not meant to be dramatic. Although all the squirting at the end did prove to be a bit much, that didn't bother me as much as those assholes.
I just didn't find those attractive at all.

I wasn't really asking for my review to be critiqued, but appreciate the feedback, even so.

 
Phadrus00
Member

22 Posts
6/01
Posted - Sep 11 2001 : 11:46PM
Hey Reason Thanks for the GREAT link to the CBC transcript! I have been looking for that for some time and was unable to find it! Terriffic! I remember vividly the night it was first broadcast, I was driving home from teaching a class and starting listening and got soooooooo turned on by the sounds of Shannon Bell doing a "demo"! *lol*


This has been an interesting thread to watch. DB I am not going to inundate you with links as it is VERY obvious you have reached your position after exhaustive research. I commend you on reaching and sticking to your conclusion in a rational and intellectual fashion. Descartes would be proud M'Lady! *bow*

I admit to having a large collection of videos on this subject and would agree with you that much of the material is staged or overdone VERY poorly. It is a popular fetish and the producers of the product are attempting to capitalize on the interest. Such is capitalism and so be it.

But I also have first hand experiences and somehow must reconcile what science and reason tells us and what my own experiences point to. We have SOOOO much to learn about what REALLY happens when men and women orgasm physically and mentally.

So until then I say "Damn the torpedoes! Get me a TOWEL! Full squirt ahead!" And when a Lovely Lass is giving me a facial I'll gladly accept it's erotic wetness knowing it's exciting her as well as me and I'll not bother to ask the scientific question of what it REALLY is.

Shiver me Timber! Har!

Phadrus00

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