Sounds like Kink was the straw that broke the camels back, but that site has been out of line for awhile. I recall during the last disease outbreak it was feared that transmission occurred on their set due to their practices. And a word on that site in general. Why the degradation and humiliation? Why not just have sex? Why isn't that enough? The entire concept seems pathetic and despicable to me. Also an agent should never send a new girl to a site like that lest something like this happens. And they should give their girls breaks so they don't burn out.
First, don't believe everything that Michael weinstein says. Secondly, everyone in the industry knows what Kink shoots. Most girls (most? Hell, I'd say more like 90% love living out their fantasies and are excited when they shoot for them. And I'm not going to get into the agent talk, but you're misinformed.
I've never partied or gone out when I worked. I took my job seriously Edited by - alinalixxx on 7/1/2014 1:48:49 PM Edited by - alinalixxx on 7/1/2014 2:06:06 PM
^^^^ I never said you did :) I was merely saying that your statement was vague and could be interpreted a myriad of ways but you seemed to have cleared that up somewhat. I sincerely hope you're in the process of feeling better and you achieve whatever you want in your professional life away from porn and although I was a fan of your work, I hope to never see you in porn again. Happy trails.
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Posted - Jul 1 2014 : 3:08PM
120 scenes That is say, 15- 20 scenes a month.. Quite a lot Alina, do you think you can go back to normal life(and dating) after this ? hope you don't mind the question... Also, what about the tattoos? Edited by - moonlighters1985 on 7/1/2014 3:12:52 PM
Alina, Thank you for all your efforts and hard work. You are a special performer and a beautiful girl. Thank you also for letting us, your fans, know your thoughts. I'm sad and sorry but I certainly understand. I hope you find the passion and happiness that was so evident in your scenes. It's amazing you've been in the USA for only 4 years and have made a larger impact than many people have or will. Best of luck, Alina. You will be missed. DCV
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Posted - Jul 1 2014 : 3:24PM
Good luck for you life Alina! I'm still hoping you'll come back in the future. You were the prettiest asian girl in porn and for me you were the "asian Tori Black": tall and too pretty for porn ^^ This is why i expected much from you and I hoped you had a Tori Black's carreer (by the way Tori Black neved did kink-alike-scene)! Kiss Alina!
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Posted - Jul 1 2014 : 5:11PM
Burnout was the real reason. A shame. A pity really. Hope the kid stays focused...just need the Lex scene anyway.
I wish young girls who are in their first year don't do any scenes for Kink(personally I wouldn't like to see them work for them ever but that aside). Thanks for the hard work Alina, you've made an impact already. good luck.
Below was posted on June 22. Y'know, back when everyone thought Alina was having just a delightful time, making fun movies, and relishing her porn-star fame.
^But watch people defend everybody except Alina when it comes to that kink scene though. Like I said, I wish she had never done that scene. It may have been the difference between taking a break to come back later and quitting the business altogether.
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Posted - Jul 2 2014 : 12:32AM
I see we all have widely varied reactions to the news we mutually agree is sad. Alina is, as the thread title appropriately trumpets, a stunning Asian teen and it seems like we're all trying to cope with her departure in our own way. I don't get the finger-pointing though. Alina said she didn't blame Kink. Hell, to look at it another way, the scene helped her realize that a career in porn wasn't her path. If you really appreciated the girl and not just the actress, let her go find her own way. I'd also suggest you watch those last BangBros scenes if you want to insist it was the Kink scene. She seemed upset in both of those, too. Shall we dissect the Bang Bus scene next? My point is, she showed us the courtesy to explain her exit. Let's show her some appreciation and let her walk away with her head high. She's being really brave. Show the love. My $.02
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myth084 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 2 2014 : 12:34AM
The good news is that Ultimate Fuck Toys is scheduled to 14th july and it looks fucking AWESOME! Makes the retirement harder...
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Posted - Jul 2 2014 : 2:57AM
Is that big enough for you to see it through your self-congratulatory haze? We can go even bigger, if necessary.
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Posted - Jul 2 2014 : 3:45AM
This is 2014. There is always a cover to protect reputations. Like when Siri actually defended Ramon and Tony for bruising her tits right before she was set to be in the new Ferrara Raw and it got canceled. It is what it is.
^yea I mean look no further than V defending Sterling that he's really not a racist. anyway even though I like Kink, they were part of a couple of massive blunders in the last 12 months, they gave the industry a healthy kick in the nuts.
You just can't handle being told that a scene like the one she did for kink is for complete assholes, up there with Facial Abuse.. Do you just hate women? Passing it off as some kind of fetish ain't cutting it. (and no, she didn't have to tell your ass anything) Edited by - SkyHigh on 7/2/2014 4:41:58 AM Edited by - SkyHigh on 7/2/2014 4:43:22 AM
Why is it so hard to understand that different things turn different people on? When it comes to degradation and humiliation KINK is pretty tame compared to some other sites out there, mainly Facial Abuse. People like being tied up, dominated, being spanked, choked, etc. This isn't that much of an uncommon fetish so I'm trying to figure out why people on here have a hard time understanding and accepting everyone is into different things. Just like people are into feet, "rosebuds", golden showers, and other things I don't get off to you don't see me going around making a big deal over people who do. By her message it seems she was having issues with her job and the industry before she even did the Kink scene, the Kink scene was just the final straw. It wasn't as if all things were all dandies and butterflies and rainbows before Kink by the way she talked. It is clear what type of porn Kink does and you can even go on their sites and watch clips of what each site entails. Public Disgrace is one of their more hardcore sites and it is clear there are things done to you in Public that may be Disgrace-ful. I'm sure she had an idea of what to expect when doing the scene. Kink provides safety words/signs for every scene so the girl can stop whenever she is uncomfortable with what is going on. Maybe things she thought she would like/enjoy going into the scene were things she turned out not to like/enjoy. When you do things for the first time in life you usually try to get an idea of what to expect/what your getting into. However it is not until you actually do it that you actually know how it makes you feel, if you like it or not, if it is something positive or negative in your eyes. Same thing probably happened with Alina/Kink, went in expecting her experience to be one way and it turned out to be another way. Bottom line is it was a consensual scene that took place with certain safety rules in place. It just turned out to be a negative experience for her and also happened to come after she was already dealing with some issues she had with her job in general. I remember another pornstar having a negative experience at Kink after doing a scene for their Hardcore Gangbang site (probably their roughest site). However there are pornstars who love doing BDSM and are regulars on Kink and Sexually Broken. Some pornstars even do just Kink for the most part. Every site is going to have girls who love them or do not like working for them, especially fetish sites. There is nothing wrong about that. It seems like for the most part people are upset she left the industry, which I can understand as everyone has had a favorite leave at some point, and are looking for someone/something to point the finger at and blame. It seems Kink is the one taking most the blame, especially from ones who can't fathom why oh why someone may be into bondage or domination despite it being one of the most common fetishes out there. From her message it is obvious it was something that was building up over time and Kink was just the scene that broke the camels back. If she didn't do Kink then it would've just erupted at some other time. She seems to be serious about leaving the business and taking a different path. It seems she wants to go to school and find her true passion. I'm very happy for her and everyone else should be as well. She was unhappy with her situation and she decided to take action and make changes in her life, so big props to her. She has given everyone a crapload of scenes, there are still scenes which haven't be released I'm sure, so just accept it and enjoy all the content she left you with. Girls leave the business all the time, some do stay for awhile, but most don't. I look at porn for most girls as a short experience in their long journey that is their life. I just figure most porn fans wouldn't have such a hard time dealing with a girl leaving with it being such a common thing. For her fans at least she produced a lot of content, there are a lot of girls who just do a few scenes and leave, but Alina has provided a large variety of content for everyone and while I know everyone always wants something new, her fans should be pleased with that. Thanks for all the great content Alina and good luck in whatever you do next, I hope your find your true passion as that is something all of us hope to achieve.
Facial Abuse is on a whole other level when it comes to that type of porn. And if someone enjoys Kinks content then why do they have to hate women? There are a large number of women who enjoy being dominated, humiliated, tied up, slapped/spanked, etc. As a famous quote says "Everything in the world is about sex except sex. Sex is about power.", some get off by being the one the has the power and others get off by being powered over. All of Kinks content is consensual acts performed by adults who both enjoy what they're doing/having done to them. The only time that may not be the case is when it is someones first time doing such scene and they're able to stop whenever they want. I mean Public Disgrace is some rough fucking, but it is nothing close to Facial Abuse. I can watch a PD scene, though I don't watch them unless it involves a really huge favorite of mine, but Facial Abuse is totally different. With Kink it is clearly all an act, but FA really comes off as thinking women are a subhuman species and that they get off more if the girl clearly isn't into it. I would imagine that Kink's rep in the business is a lot more positive than FA's rep. Maybe Captain Jack can speak to that as he seems to know a great deal about the business. Kink has a lot of big names do scenes for them, but FA's girls are newbies or one and doners. If you even want to make a case for Kink = Facial Abuse then the example needs to be Hardcore Gangbang, but even that is a stretch IMO, but HG is closer to FA than PD is IMO.
First off while I do enjoy some of Kink's content, I usually don't watch Public Disgrace/Hardcore Gangbang. Just because I defend something does not mean I partake in said action. I don't think or act like my preferences should be the preferences of everyone else because everyone is different. There are things in entertainment in general that I don't like or agree with that others love and are infatuated with, but I'm not someone who calls them names or tries to shame them. However the fact is that what Kink does is an act between consensual adults in an environment with safety precautions taken. This is not someone being raped or forced to do anything they don't give consent to doing, so yes I'm going to defend Kink and their content.
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TrumanBurbank Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 2 2014 : 5:29AM
Alina mentioned being a waitress, imagine if Alina starts waitressing at your local restaurant. Fuck, that would boost business like crazy.
dunno if Alina will be back to see it but just in case - wanted to wish you all the best for the future. i think it's awesome that happiness is your main motivation rather than just money. hope you're feeling better already than you did when you quit and you're getting to relax more now and just chill a bit. easily one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen and you seem really sweet, so I hope you find lots of happiness in whatever you decide to pursue. :)
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Posted - Jul 2 2014 : 6:30AM
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Posted - Jul 2 2014 : 6:44AM
I do not think that Alina has stopped because of Kink and of PublicDisgrace. Who wants to work with Kink, it knows what to do and how to do it.
You do realize that many people would say that because you watch porn (in any form), you hate women? So, was it I who hated women when girlfriends asked me to slap them harder, pull their hair harder, toss them around, have sex in public places etc. ? Or did they just hate themselves and had no idea what was going on with their emotionally mature and college-educated selves??? Please SkyHigh, thrill us with your keen insights on this (apparently to you) simple subject that is human sexuality.
Sometimes I like when woman is treated like that, yes I LIKE that. And what is more important, a lot of women likes it too. But sometimes I like when woman is treated like a Goddess, and is worshipped by her man... What is wrong with that...If You can't understand that everyone, literally everyone, is sexually different, then I don't know what can help you... differences of all kind makes this world more interesting, Jesus, is it so tough to understand?
There is hardly any porn that is like kink nowadays. The rough style of porn is mostly a thing of the past, so the disgusting nature of a Public Disgrace scene does not represent the average path of a career in porn. So I stand by what I said which is that the scene she did for kink is what drove her over to complete retirement instead of reconsidering/taking a break, so yes things could have been different if she never did that scene. And this isn't the first time that kink drives a performer to make a final decision like this. I've read before that it used to be that only experienced girs who had already done several stuff for kink would be eligable for a scene with Public disgrace or Hardcore gangbang. You don't just put a newcomer in there like that even if she seems up for it. It's a big risk.
1- People who are here to gloat about being right, how does that feel? Feel good? Think about that. 2- People who hate BDSM and scenes like them COULD YOU PLEASE START YOUR OWN THREAD.
^Nobody is gloating about anything here, I don't know why you're so strangely hung up on that. Secondly, you've tried to deflect the blame the whole time, even implying that it was Alina's own fault for being unprofessional which she herself had to clear up and defend herself. There is nothing wrong with criticsm. Clearly there is something to be learned from this situation that may prevent future performers from going though the same thing.
1- The "see I was right" attitude (which is considered gloating) prevalent in this thread is why I keep bringing it up. 2- I never accused Alina of anything. I simply stated that her statement could be interpreted and provided examples, not facts of how it could be interpreted. 3- What is there to be learned from this? Is this really the first time in the history of the world that an 18 year old who feels invincible makes a mistake and unfortunately pays dearly? What do you suggest to "prevent future performers from going through the same thing?" A step by step guide: the first year, only hand jobs and blow jobs then the second year..... Government regulations?? Hundreds of performers flame out every year, it is the nature of a business where girls suck strange men's dicks for money while strange voyeurs pay to watch and jerk off.
I quess its official now, this make me for most think about the girls in the porn industry, and why they quit, I can only imagine what its like, in every bizz you have low life, that think only about making a quick buck over the back of girls that are just to young and to inexperianced to stand up for them selves. To bad Alina li is yet another victim, I for one am sorry that she left. Edited by - andresnijder on 7/2/2014 11:11:48 AM
^ did I say that?? I dont think so, and believe me I am no angel myself, I'm just saying, girls like Alina, tanner, amia and other hot girls that really truely love sex and love showing that get pussed out from the industry because some fucker treats them like shit and makes them wanna leave porn, its just a waist thats what I am saying!
^^^^ How do you know they truly love sex? Because they say so? I've never heard a pornstar say they hated sex yet hundreds of them leave the biz every year. I like the fact that you and others of your ilk in this thread are trying to play the blame game. It's Kink's fault, no it's Spiegler, no it's the industry etc. I don't have to read this whole thread to know that there are probably pages and pages of posts that are similar to this: oh my god, there hasn't been a new Alina Li scene in 3 days, what's going on? I need more Alina now!!!!! Fans, performers, agents, producers all have influence in the system that is porn and many factors come to play when someone quits abruptly or slowly fades away. Now please, shut up and go jerk off, that's what I plan on doing.
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Posted - Jul 2 2014 : 12:13PM
It was around when I read "we're all trying to cope with her departure in our own way" that I knew this thread went horribly wrong. It's really started getting out of control well before she came here yesterday to address the forum. It's gone into a tirade about BDSM scenes, what stars like what, what caused other stars to retire, and whether or not what she stated as the reason she left is REALLY the reason she left. Anyone else but me think Ms. Li read the posts since she explained her departure, rolled her eyes, shook her head, and said to herself: "Yep, I DEFINITELY made the right decision." It wouldn't surprise me. She left enough of a body of work to continue to discuss her career in front of the camera instead of continuing useless speculation, forming baseless theories, and harping on her departure. Let her leave in peace. JMHO
Dear Bumblaster, you really dont get it, to be honest I dont think you ever will, I for one dont have time to try to explain it to you, just keep on jerking, I hope you can make a carreer out of that, good luck!
Hmm, it's sad that a beautiful girl like Alina who really loved doing porn (at least in the beginning as she said in the early interviews and on twitter) is now not liking it anymore. I think it's mainly the pace and just only doing shooting sex scenes and nothing else. It gets monotonous. She needed some pauses and rests and do something completely different. Regarding Kink, Alina said she liked BDSM. She knew what Kink was about. All her other Kink scenes are great, but maybe the Public Disgrace scene was a bit too much at that time. The scene itself is nothing very special about: it's just Alina fucking 1 guy in a store with some probab. carefully selected bystanders. But that kind of scene at the end of continuous shooting was prob. not a good idea. One of her last scenes was an IR scene with the famous Riley Reid and Lex. Riley has been in the biz for quite some time and very succesfully.. Maybe she could have advised Alina how to manage a porn career right? Anyway, Alina can finally now have some rest and think about what to do next in her life. I only hope she will not turn into some kind of anti porn lobbyist aka Shelley Lubben ;-) Maybe later on in her life, if she has got her things in order, she might come back and please her fans again but then on her terms. If not, she left a great amount of hot scenes. Thanx Alina :-) P.S. I think a great successor for Alina is Meiko Askara, a hot 18 yrs old Japanese girl fairly new in the industry, whose dream was to work with Alina. That will not be the case of course but Meiko is right where Alina used to be, the beautiful Asian teen with a dirty mind ;-) Edited by - makker on 7/2/2014 3:48:57 PM Edited by - makker on 7/2/2014 4:26:21 PM
Alina is quiting and Jules release the "first and last Alina's interracial" (http://www.julesjordan.com/trial/scenes/alina-li-riley-reid-interracial-lexington-steele-bbc-asian_vids.html) Great timing Jules! ^^ Make me think...Did Jules wait all the time for Alina's quiting announcement..to announce the Ultimate Fuck Toys release date? Or the quiting is just "a commercial move"? I'm sure Alina will come back in the future, mark my words.
Awww, so much butthurt here. So Much! Boo. Hey, I know what'll make everybody feel better! Pictures! Yay! Titties! Look. She'll come back. They come back! Let's reflect on a happier time, huh? With some nice, safe, image policy-compliant, genital-free, masturbation-free, erection-free pictures. There, there.