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Grigor3
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Posted - Jun 3 2025 : 2:29AM
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Nancy Ace shot a photo set with Mila Azul for her site nancylove.com. i hope they also shot a scene . looks good.

Bistahieversor
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Posted - Jun 3 2025 : 3:23PM
As a Big fan of Mila Azul I'm very excited for this. Let's see if there is a video. It would be a dream come true watching her doing lesbiana stuff.

Edit: Watching some of the photos published in the Internet, I have the feeling that is all pose and nothing more. They're just modeling, not having lesbian sex. And more suspicions arises when Mila herself has claimed that she's straight. So if there is a video, I doubt we are going to see any genuine sapphic interaction. I hope they prove me wrong, but I doubt It...

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Lezzyist
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Maybe I paint with too heavy a brush, considering they have mandates from the people at Aylo, etc.

Still, in high-volume content production, formulas tend to become even more formulaic over time, and that's why there is/has been a spiral. The race to "just get something out there" becomes steeper with time, until quality runs right off a cliff, and and that content nadir is what gets replicated. The only way to counteract that is to go against the grain, i.e. casting for GG talent/comfortability as a high priority, capturing sex acts that look right for a good amount of time even when there is a cartoon meme mandate, connecting performers who want to try working together, etc, and I don't see many producers doing that kind of stuff.

The output is kinda rote simply because it is meant to be rote. And to be fair and reiterate, this all ultimately goes back on the audience, as they really decide. Uncomfortable, Darcie-acting straight girls blowing raspberries and saying memes appears to be what the audience wants (with emphasis on the memes as the most important thing). I suppose it is arguable that there is no room for producers/directors to shift the zeitgeist.

Edited by - lezzyist on 6/3/2025 4:13:42 PM

whyalwaysbilly
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Eep.

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Breeze310
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Posted - Jun 6 2025 : 2:38PM
There's still a few months left in 2025.. which GG pairings do yall hope happen ?
Toyboy
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Posted - Jun 6 2025 : 2:42PM
Sophia burns penny barber, ryan keely sophia burns, freya parker penny barber, Bella rolland Sophia burns, Bella rolland coco lovelock and dana vespoli freya von doom
Lukamoney
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Posted - Jun 9 2025 : 4:24AM
What's the point of Brazzers' lesbian scenes lately? They seem lacking, with no real effort-just toys and other gimmicks. RealityKings also takes too long to produce one mediocre scene. AYLO has completely forgotten about G/G scenes. And honestly, if SweetheartVideos didn't have Mike Quasar, that site would probably be in trouble, just like Twistys.
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Like the scene Messy Friendships Are the Best Friendships, starring Nicole Doshi and Anna Claire Clouds, which is set to be released on June 12, 2025. Two top performers, and yet they put them in this one? Why?
fringster
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Posted - Jun 9 2025 : 6:27AM
^Lately? Hasn't that been the case for almost a decade?

Twistys shut down wasn't that tragic from a quality point, because they weren't allowed to make decent scenes for quite a well. I'm confident Holly Randall and whoever else was shooting for them could've done better, but they were told what to do by the suits in Montreal. Same for Brazzers and RK. For a bit RK still had the regular GG scene, but that's not been the case for probably a year or more. Just like Brazzers who had one maybe biweekly.

Despite what the pornhub stats say, GG porn just isn't popular enough, or more truthfully the willingness to pay for it isn't there.

Bistahieversor
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Posted - Jun 9 2025 : 8:48AM
Well, I don't feel any emotion of lossness when it comes to Brazzers. They always sucked in the GG department. Maybe in the early to mid 2010s they still produced a decent scene, but they alwas have made this crap. All toys, actresses overeacting and shouting too loud, stupid settings, men popping out for no reason. It's not something of yesterday precisely. But yeah, is a tragedy that two amazing performers like Anna Claire Clouds and Nicole Doshi are wasted in a scene full of bad acting and dildos stuck in their asses. Maybe one day in Slayed or Sweetheart Video they can do something more decent with them.
Bistahieversor
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Posted - Jun 9 2025 : 10:57AM
The evidence of Mila Azul involved in a GG scene continues, but it's pretty scarce. Here from the X account of Nancy A.

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Interestingly, in her Pornhub account, Mila Azul has now put that she's interested in women also. Hm...

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Lezzyist
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I feel like the popularity and content problems of GG could be helped a little bit if more women paid for porn lol. And then the content could afford to be a lot less retarded more often.
Lukamoney
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Posted - Jun 10 2025 : 7:54AM
Yeah, you are right about that. The downfall of twisty when Holly Randall leaves them. Rk was good with their weekly update, but now it's too bad they even get europo girls that don't speak English and add subtitles really man.

Anyway, I will make a list of their good scenes in 2023/2025. In my opinion, check them guys and tell me what you think.
The best lesbian scenes in 2023/2025 in my opinion

Ps:I don't know if this link is allowed here or not sorry Mr.flash

Scotty B_1123
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Posted - Jun 15 2025 : 1:16PM
MOD:
The endless stream of people bitching about OnlyFans in threads has gotten old and makes it hard for people to have discussions.
If you need to bitch about OnlyFans, there is literally a thread to do so here..
Posts made that are complaints that so and so are only on OF, I won't sub to OF, etc will be removed and a minimum of a seven day vacation will be handed out.

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LittleMissLively
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Posted - Jun 15 2025 : 1:59PM
^I'd add instagram to the list of stressors. There's a vastly more liquid market for the monetizing of hotness now than 20 years ago and the apex pornstars of that era would be mid-level influencers making similar cash without any downside now. It's really quite remarkable the confluence of circumstances that resulted in the 1995-2010 porn golden era, that so many gorgeous women would go into it and that an infrastructure would develop to produce/market it so efficiently while preserving its margins. Forget about it happening again, it's over (though maybe AI will make all this moot.)

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Gorgon
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Posted - Jun 15 2025 : 3:55PM
And it feels like the only two of your critiques that could get better is the scene creativity and the excessive toy usage. Maybe if some producer/director comes along that really wants to set themselves apart we could see an improvement in quality but that isn't really going to address the other more systemic problems with the industry.

There is just very little new stuff being produced that appeals to me right now and when I see what AdultTime puts out it does nothing for me for the most part and they seem to be the only one left willing to try for anything on a bigger scale but too often it just ends up being the silliness that I really don't like.

I haven't been subscribed to anything for a while and really don't see myself paying for anything in the near future. Fortunately I have a bunch of older stuff to revisit so there is that.

Edited by - Flash on 6/17/2025 12:05:25 PM

Lezzyist
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I think it is, unfortunately, the toy stuff that gets BG fans to click GG videos for a couple of minutes i.e. more overall eyes on the content. I realized most viewers prefer toys between the popularity of the weekly toy videos at Girlsway and a handful or two of performers talking on Twitter about how GG does not sell unless they are using big toys. I think post about 2014, there hasn't been much interest in watching two women have sex. Reading stuff on here and on site comments, it's always seemed the enjoyment of GG was not so much about what the performers do with each other physically but more related to which meme they are calling out and how often the performers say reminders that they are doing a meme. Almost nobody is actually trying to watch women have sex with just their own bodies, certainly not pay for it, and the vast majority of the performers want as much physical distance between themselves and the other naked lady as possible, so more toys makes a ton sense for a couple of different reasons.

I also think the videos where the ladies just sit next to each other and suck dildos while talking in hilariously bad sexy voices have also become more of a focus. Nobody (relatively) wants to watch two chicks actually mess around.

That Malena Morgan, Georgia Jones, Elle Alexandra, Bree Daniels, Lia Lor, etc era was a magnificent blip in time. I'm not sure what happened to the audience that recognized the GG willingness and talent of performers like this and helped them sustain careers, but that audience is sorely missed!

Scotty B_1123
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Posted - Jun 16 2025 : 3:28PM
Adding additionally to the last 3 comments above:

- Definitely a good point by LittleMissLively regarding how social media has changed the overall adult industry landscape that has impacted content since 2010. I'd say though that there was still quality content, creative directors and superior actresses in play from 2010 to 2020 with Girlsway, Girlfriends Films, Twistys, Reality Kings doing very satisfying scenes/movies. The COVID layover drove so much talent out of studio work (Abigail Mac is a perfect example) and really wrecked the industry from an overall quality perspective.

- I agree with you Gorgon, there's little if anything worth subscribing to these days. Either the content is just not worth seeing or the miserly content release schedule doesn't make it worth your money to spend on such little content to enjoy. There are so very few "go to" or "must see" content sources anymore. Girlsway, GFF, Slayed, Lesbea, Abby Winters, Reality Kings and others used to be so reliable in providing enjoyable quality lesbian content but sadly, not any more. Thankfully I have a huge DVD collection that I am more and more relying on to watch quality content from the past while buying less current content on DVD because of the lack of quality.

- And while I don't disagree with your overall comments Lezzyist, I freely admit that there is at least one person who does want to see girls (1 on 1 or threesomes, even a well done foursome) together having sensual, erotic and realistic sex together. I never need nor want any dildos, strap-ons, wands or other toys in my lesbian scenes, ever. To me, toys as a whole detract from the eroticism of a lesbian encounter. What differentiates a lesbian scene focused on toy play from a boy/girl scene? If viewers need to see lesbians use toys, why not watch boy/girl scenes then? I've never understood that and I suppose I never will.

Two Girlsway scene examples recently released on DVD that really exemplifies quality performances by superior veteran talent are one featuring Jayden Cole and Victoria Voxxx (Love Knows No Bounds: Jayden and Victoria's Relationship) and another by Aiden Ashley and Whitney Wright (Out of Her Comfort Zone). Both are perfect examples of what a passionate, sensual, realistic, quality girl/girl pairing should be. No toys, no excessively tattooed actresses, no gonzo/ridiculous overacting, just highly erotic, believable and satisfying lesbian sex. I believe both scenes were directed by Ricky Greenwood, which adds to the quality of these scenes having a great director creating great content.

I hope I'm not the only one left that still appreciates such content as what I just referenced because to me, that is the type of content that represents the greatness of lesbian sex scenes.

whyalwaysbilly
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LezFan
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This is the most ridiculous thing Ive heard in awhile. So I was listening to the new episode from Bree Mills. She had Melissa Stratton and Vanna Bardot on after they shot their GG scene together. They hyped it up so much so for the first time Im actually interested in seeing a Melissa scene lol But anyways Melissa today a story how she was shooting a GG scene and the director told her to fuck her scene partner like a man. And Melissa was like no I want to fuck her like a girl bc thats what I am. Like if thats how these directors think they need to be out of a job. And these studios need to be out of the GG business. I have no clue who this director is or what studio this was but thats a ridiculous thing to tell a female during a GG scene.
Lukamoney
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Posted - Jun 18 2025 : 3:38AM
I'm sure this will be an amazing scene, and we can look forward to another great one with Serene and Melody.

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Lukamoney
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Posted - Jun 18 2025 : 3:47AM
Lol, seriously? How is a girl supposed to pull this off? It's totally unrealistic. Directors like this are why the genre's losing its appeal. Since she doesn't have many GG scenes, I'm guessing it's either her Brazzers scene with Aubrey Valentine or the one from AGIRLKNOWS, if we're talking about more recent ones.
whyalwaysbilly
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^^Yes yes yes.
Bistahieversor
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Posted - Jun 18 2025 : 9:03AM
It was a matter of time these two would cross their paths and of course, in a Mommy's girl scene. Not like I complain about it, I really want to see it!!!

Edited by - Bistahieversor on 6/18/2025 9:05:37 AM

 
Grigor3
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b) Performer name + Site name + name of the scene on the site (or date the scene was uploaded to the site if there isn't scene name). (UPDATED MARCH 2025)
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c) Link to the scene on the site (and make it easy for your fellow members to find the scene you are discussing).

Don't list the new scene as "new scene with X." For instance, if someone checks AdultTime daily and someone else checks AdultTime weekly, what is new is a different and for the latter, the scene may already be on page 2 of their listings. And the post is completely useless to people months in the future. If a thread is company specific, like a thread on Girlsway, you don't need to list the site, but you still need to list the scene name, or if none is provided, the date the scene was released.

This will help your fellow members find the scene you are discussing. When this information isn't provided, almost immediately, someone has to ask where.

These rules have been in effect for over 6 years now. Pretending not to understand them doesn't work anymore.

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Bistahieversor
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^You're right. I totally forgot it!!! And it was a really good scene.
Lukamoney
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LezFan
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That is true. And I wouldnt put it past that scene being for Brazzers. I dont know all of Melissa GG scenes but yeah like directors and studios need to be better than that.
whyalwaysbilly
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Posted - Jun 20 2025 : 3:39AM
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As part of a Lilly Bell showcase.
Edit:-Looks like it's a lesbian showcase, nothing but lesbian scenes, even better.

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Edited by - whyalwaysbilly on 6/20/2025 12:34:13 PM

Lezzyist
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Industry actually picking a talented GG performer to do a GG project? Wild! I might take that as a hint to go play the lotto!

I hope it is adult, non-childish style of content.

Edited by - lezzyist on 6/20/2025 12:55:26 PM

Bistahieversor
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Posted - Jun 20 2025 : 3:47PM
Wow, what line up has reunited Lilly Bell for her movie!!! I really want to see it now!!!
whyalwaysbilly
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Big news (shame it's only a one-off though).

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Lukamoney
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Posted - Jun 21 2025 : 7:39PM
Wow, this cast is stacked! I'm really excited to see what happens in the movie. It looks like Jennifer will have her own showcase, which is great, but I'm hoping we get at least one GG scene in there too.
whyalwaysbilly
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Bistahieversor
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Posted - Jun 22 2025 : 3:40AM
^Probably a Mommy's Girl scene, but with these it could be fire!!!
Lukamoney
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Posted - Jun 22 2025 : 5:34AM
This is going to be good and I know that
whyalwaysbilly
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Posted - Jun 22 2025 : 6:12AM
Their last scene was pretty damn good so I expect this to be just as good if not better, they both look even better now.
In other (somewhat disappointing) news, last night Freya Parker tweeted that she "got her hands on Gal Ritchie". Unfortunately later she clarified that it was just for a livestream. SO close, but I'm still hoping it'll happen one day, hell I'd settle for a new Freya lesbian scene.

Edited by - whyalwaysbilly on 6/22/2025 6:12:40 AM

Bistahieversor
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Posted - Jun 22 2025 : 7:27AM
^How unfortunate that an incredible actress like Freya Parker has to do so much BG stuff because is more profitable. I'm always searching for scenes of her but it's always with guys. Same thing for Lumi Ray, very talented, but not a lot of lesbian scenes done.
Lukamoney
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Posted - Jun 22 2025 : 8:40AM
Yeah, sometimes they forget to make GG scenes. If I want to see you, I have to settle for a BG, which I'm not a fan of. It's frustrating because I have the same issue with Rachel Cavalli-why don't they book her more often?
Lukamoney
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Posted - Jun 22 2025 : 8:44AM
Do you have any news about Bridgette B? Has she retired from mainstream work or something? I haven't seen any scenes from her in 2025. I used to love her scenes.

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A2mlover
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Posted - Jun 22 2025 : 9:24AM
^IAFD lists 6 scenes with Bridgette B in 2025. Some of these are compilations, but some appear to be new.
whyalwaysbilly
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Posted - Jun 22 2025 : 5:16PM
It turns out that this is a custom scene for Anatomik's website, looks fantastic though.

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Ricov
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Posted - Jun 23 2025 : 5:21PM
With some scenes that I see, I can maybe understand where that director was coming from. Some scenes the girls look like they barely have any attraction to their partner at all. No touching their bodies with passion, no actual real kissing, BARELY licking pussy. Like come on, that's why girls like Malena were precious to GG fans. They dove in without reservation. With so many scenes I first fast forward to kissing parts and eating pussy parts to judge the rest of the scene. I'll immediately close the video if they kiss like they are two straight women who were dared by their friends to peck the other girl.

As a guy, if I'm with a beautiful woman with an incredible body I'm fucking diving in, I'm not sticking my tongue out and dabbing the girl's pussy a few times as if I'm scared of it. lol

So yeah after frustrating scenes I can imagine a director getting to the point and saying "Just fuck like a straight guy would."

Ricov
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Posted - Jun 23 2025 : 5:24PM
Just look at for example the Girlfriend Films scene with Vanna Bardot and Gina Valentina from Women Seeking Women #158. Vanna Bardot munches on her pussy like she was hungry for it. None of this dainty, "eww her pussy might have cooties" stuff.
Lezzyist
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Posted - Jun 23 2025 : 10:13PM
Malena Morgan wouldn't have created the same Malena Morgan persona if she debuted in porn now.

Imagine her psyching herself into physical intimacy with the other performer only to have Swills by Pallen or whoever director telling her not to worry about that and interrupting to make her say "I hope we don't get caught while I'm stuck in the toaster, Mommy" every 5 seconds.

Edited by - Lezzyist on 6/23/2025 10:15:19 PM

Ricov
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Posted - Jun 24 2025 : 6:58AM
Maybe we just witnessed a perfect storm during the Malena era. I feel though with enough money they could have created an amazing GG series with other performers who loved women in more recent years. They just didn't jump on the opportunity or didn't offer the deal. I could see either Scarlit Scandal, Alex Coal, Freya Parker, Jane Wilde or Vanna Bardot having a similar role for a studio as Malena did and having success.

If they think GG isn't profitable, it's because they aren't putting effort into promoting the right girls and directing (and knowing when to NOT direct) those scenes correctly. If they did I'm sure most people here would be subscribed currently. Imagine high quality 40 min GG scenes from Freya Parker with different beautiful women every two weeks? I mean she deserves a contract like that, she's a stellar GG performer.

With Malena, I think she had the kind of determined personality where she would have found the director and studio that gave her what she wanted. She wouldn't be somewhere that didn't make her happy. Same with her scenes, she did what she loved and it showed.

Edited by - ricov on 6/24/2025 7:02:46 AM

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^
1.From an appearance standpoint, there is a sizable gap between Malena & the women you mention above.

2. Malena was a great performer; key word being performer. If anything, she, in an interview, lead one to believe she didn't love what she was doing. There was some resentment from other woman at the time when she got the WLT gig as the feeling was she wasn't really into girls.

3. The Lansky shooting style was a major part of the greatness of the Morgan/WLT collaboration. He may have been repetitive, but he pointed that camera where he needed to be.

4. This all said, I was a huge fan of Malena Morgan. Still watch her work on a regular basis. Would have loved to see a scene with her & Tori Black, but the timeline wasn't quite right.

5. As for the wish for better g/g porn, I share the sentiments expressed around here. Problem is the money spout flows elsewhere these days.

late2thegame
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Is Greg Lansky retired? Will he come back? There are several porn sites that have gone down in quality in his absence.
LezFan
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In no world I can understand where the director is coming from saying that. That would be like in a BG scene the director is telling Nathan Bronson to fuck Kenna James like a female. Its funny you mentioned Vanna Bardot in your other post her scene with Gina Valentina. To me that scene was an hour of boredom to me. And I love Gina and Ive grown to be a fan of Vanna. At the time though it was my first time seeing Vanna and she just didnt do anything for me and I thought that scene was a drag. I actually was mad that GFF made that scene an hour long and the other two scenes with Bree/Aaliyah and Shyla/Jenna those scenes were short. Like you have Shyla and Jenna two of the best GG performers of all-time no way you have their scene like 30 minutes and have Vanna and Gina scene an hour. Bree and Aaliyah both amazing GG performers too and their scene was also like 30 minutes.

I do agree like two beautiful, confident women are in a GG scene they should just dive in but unfortunately thats not the case bc one if not both dont want to be there. They are just doing it bc the agent says so. There are girls who just do GG bc its easy money. Its a pussy break from getting pounded by a dick. Most people dont look at GG as real sex. Even Kenna said this on a podcast episode with Bree Mills how when she was doing GG only there would be those who say she isnt doing hardcore sex bc she was doing GG. And to me if GG is to be taken seriously I truly think we will see some amazing content.

Like I saw on X that Violet Starr is shooting a GG with Darcie for her OF. I had to shake my head bc I cant believe performers are still going out of their way to shoot with Darcie. Its not a mainstream scene where a performer is booked with Darcie. Its Violet getting together with Darcie to shoot for their OF. Like it make no sense bc Darcie is known industry wide to be a very bad GG performer. A joke of a performer.

Denim Desire
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Posted - Jun 25 2025 : 2:01AM
Darcie's reputation is not just that she's a bad performer, it's that she was involved with things that happened to her fellow performers that should never have happened to anyone!

but which is worse - her GG sex, or her DJ career?? both are the shits, but which one is 'more worse' than the other?

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