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pornlord
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213 Posts
4/02
Posted - May 26 2003 : 5:26AM
I'm in the process of building a new pc and was going to buy a pentium 4 2.4 cpu for it , but i was talking to a guy in a computer shop and he was telling me that the AMD cpu's are far superior to Intel.Has anyone got any views on the subject?
DenverDon
Benevolent

Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - May 26 2003 : 7:08AM
pornlord, I prefer the Intel.

Years ago we experienced a few 'glitches' with the AMD. The concentration seemed to center upon CPU speed rather than overall compatability.

I do want to emphasize that I am talking 8-10 years ago. I don't know if those problems have been solved, but I just stuck with Intel.

DenverDon

Chillin
Member

San Diego
208 Posts
9/01
Posted - May 26 2003 : 2:14PM
First things first, AMD chips are not "far superior" than Intel chips. Having said that, I've bought AMD for the last 3 or 4 chips I've bought. Intel makes faster chips now and have better bus speeds and generally you can overclock them without much trouble. The AMD chips run much hotter so you can't really squeeze any more performance out of the Athlon chip, but they're cheaper. If you want the best chip out there, you have to go Intel -- if you want a chip for the price of the P4 2.4GHz, I'd go with the AMD Athlon XP 2600+

Chillin..

Evil_Rip
Senior Member

Power overwhelming
1117 Posts
12/99
Posted - May 27 2003 : 1:46AM
Either is a good choice.
You'll also want to consider which platform you'll use the chips in.

Will you buy a motherboard that supports DDR memory or RAmbus?
Is money a factor?
What is it you hope to do with your machine?

and check out what some others have to say
http://www.tomshardware.com
and
http://www.anandtech.com
or
http://www.firingsquad.com

For other suggestions.

GaySatyr
Senior Member

Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - May 27 2003 : 2:04AM
Given the current state of technology and the current price structure, the Intel P4/533 2.4GHz ~ 2.8GHz and the P4/800 2.4GHz processors using either the i845PE or the i865PE chipsets make the most sense (the i875P chipset is very slightly more powerful [about 3~5%] if you have dollars to spare.) RAMbus memory is essentially dead - it just doesn't know it yet. Go with DDR333 PC2700 or DDR400 PC3200 memory, depending on your motherboard and wallet. Check out this thread: Dream System

~ GaySatyr

 
pornlord
Member

213 Posts
4/02
Posted - May 27 2003 : 12:02PM
Thanks for the replies.I'm sure I'll buy a pentiun 4.This is a bundle of hardware which i found on a web site here in the UK which seems good for the money.

Asus P4S8X-X Motherboard

P4S8X/LAN SIS 648 (533 MHZ/ATA 133/AGP 8X) INTEL P4 SOCKET 478,3XDDR-333,6XPCI,USB 2.0,LAN,ATX

Pentium 4 2.4 Ghtz (Retail Boxed with Fan)

512 DDR 2700 Memory

Asus V9180 Magic/T MX 440 AGP * 8 Video card 64MB


Includes IDE Leads driver Disk and Manual.

Retail Boxed products.


All that is £305.00 and they fit the Cpu and memory &ampCpu and BIOS Settings.

SyberScott
Senior Member

1462 Posts
1/03
Posted - May 27 2003 : 4:32PM
Personally I would choose the Intel P4
over the AMD processor.

AMD's ideal for Multimedia/Heavy Graphics Systems.

Frigo
Senior Member

1290 Posts
7/02
Posted - May 28 2003 : 5:26AM
If you plan to do any gaming than the GeForce4XM is not a good choice. You better go with a Ti4200 which does not cost much more! I also have the GF4MX
GaySatyr
Senior Member

Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - May 28 2003 : 10:10AM
The SiS 648 is an interesting chipset; however, it hasn't proved out in performance terms. Motherboards based on the i845PE are similarly priced (actually, should be dropping in price now that the i865PE is available) and are more capable. It is true that the i845PE does not support 8X AGP (only 4X); however, that is much less a consequence in terms of total system performance than chipset and bus performance. If you want 8X AGP as well, look seriously at a motherboard based on the i865PE chipset.

~ GaySatyr

ShiWarrior
Senior Member

1170 Posts
8/01
Posted - May 30 2003 : 9:33AM
erm.

If u are getting that P4, then i would NOT buy that graphics card. your system will be too bottle necked. i suggest a ATI Radeon 9700 PRO (or 9500) , becuase it carries DDR memory too and is 128Mb, this co-responds to your PC2700 RAM and works along side it really well.

What are u going to be doing with your PC ? I will help u where i can

Cheers

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Regards and Thanks
ShiWarrior
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pornlord
Member

213 Posts
4/02
Posted - May 30 2003 : 5:57PM
Thanks for the reply ShiWarrior
The pc will eventually used for video editing , music , no games.
The Group of hardware that i listed in the earlier posting all comes Together fromX-Case.co.uk,It seemed like a good price just to get the pc up an running , but i would be up grading the graphic card at some point. At the moment i'm just looking around at various components , either i'll buy the comonents as a bundle or i'll buy them all seperatly at various times.
GaySatyr
Senior Member

Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - May 30 2003 : 6:29PM
ShiWarrior
Senior Member

1170 Posts
8/01
Posted - May 30 2003 : 6:29PM
k

i use www.overclockers.co.uk
www.ebuyer.com
www.savastore.com ? (Watford Electronics)
and www.komplet.co.uk (or .com)

ebuyer is the main 1 i use, cheap and good service.

64Mb Graphics card and u should be fine

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Regards and Thanks
ShiWarrior
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mookiemeister
Super Cool Dude

181 Posts
7/02
Posted - Jun 23 2003 : 5:02PM
Pentium is more expensive than AMD. But I think you'll run into fewer software compatiblity problems down the road.

"There are three ways to get to the top of the ladder: talent, luck, or being an asshole by stepping on someone's head. Most people on the top of the ladder are neither talented nor lucky." - Unknown

waterproof
Member

452 Posts
5/03
Posted - Jun 24 2003 : 1:28AM
hi folks,

i would always choose intel cpu's since they don't generate this large amount of heat while running as amd does.

intel supplies "boxed ware" (cpu + cooler bundle) which are perfectly designed to work together.

maybe the amd's are slightly faster, but thats not an argument in my eyes.

cheers, waterproof

 
GaySatyr
Senior Member

Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jun 24 2003 : 1:38AM
AMD's CPUs are not even faster - more cost effective (by a small margin these days) - but not faster. Given the heat issues and the cost of "high-end" cooling hardware, price-wise, AMD is essentially essentially neck and neck with similar speed 533MHz FSB Intel processors; however, the new 800MHz FSB Intel CPUs pull well ahead.

~ GaySatyr

kenny62
Member

21 Posts
11/02
Posted - Jun 30 2003 : 8:01PM
I've been using an AMD T-Bird 1.1Ghz for two years now, and it has served me well, with no incompatibility problems.

Operating system was originally Win2K Pro, and is now XP Pro.

RD

JimGunn
Member

Where The Teens Are
173 Posts
1/02
Posted - Jul 1 2003 : 3:08AM
I've always used Pentiums for general computing use. I just purchased a new P4 system (Dell Dimension 8300) with the 875P chipset and the 800MHz Front Side Bus that I intend to use mostly for video editing. The system was just about $1100 with a coupon and free shipping.


Jim Gunn
http://www.JimGunn.com

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