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AuthorPost
Goldmember
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518 Posts
7/02
Posted - Jun 23 2003 : 8:43AM
Today Apple Computers CEO Steve Jobs will release the worlds most powerful personal computers. Time to change your dream machine picks because their going to seem awfully slow after today.
afterlights
Member

48 Posts
6/03
Posted - Jun 24 2003 : 12:18AM
Oh... I fear I'm gonna have to splurge for one of those.
Saki
At-Large

2087 Posts
11/99
Posted - Jun 24 2003 : 9:02AM
Looks good; the G5 is a 64-bit processor, and the top of the line Mac is available with dual CPUs.

Unfortunately, it's a Mac... I'll wait for AMD's 64-bit desktop chip that's out later this year -- at least it'll run Windows (yes, I'm a slave to M$).

- Saki [faqs]

GaySatyr
Senior Member

Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jun 24 2003 : 10:36AM
Did you see the prices??? Mucho dinero for the top-of-the-line baby! Apple's US$2K starting price buys you something much, much less capable. I read the specs: it does sound like a great machine. And since the Mac O/S (OS-X) has become a flavor of Unix, I've got no objections at all (except for the hurt on my wallet).

~ GaySatyr

GaySatyr
Senior Member

Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jun 24 2003 : 10:48AM
OOPS!!!!! Apple may have cheated!!!!! See: here ~ GS

Edited by - GaySatyr on 6/24/2003 10:50:26 AM

 
Evil_Rip
Senior Member

Power overwhelming
1117 Posts
12/99
Posted - Jun 24 2003 : 1:07PM
[quote[
Crazy Mac Fanaticism
Most Mac users are nice. However, a significant percentage of them are crazy fanatics/zealots who believe that Apple is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and anything non-Apple is evil and must be destroyed. For example, here is a message that I found posted in the forum on a Mac website:
[/quote]
Would anyone belive Evil was once a Mac Fanatic! Hey that's what we used in art class. Photoshop on a mac. There wasn't even Windows 95 yet.
Man I got injured from Macs.. because when you clicked on a menu it wouldn't stay open. So you had to keep pressing the button with the mouse. Over time.. it makes your fingers weak.

And Saki.. why not run Linux instead? Or Lindows?

afterlights
Member

48 Posts
6/03
Posted - Jun 24 2003 : 9:46PM
I've seen that link a number of times today and already debated ad nauseum on sites like OS News and other forums.

I don't have the knowledge to dismiss or verify such claims (SPEC means nothing to me), but, as I've seen best summed up, real programs used by real users in the real world is the performance I'm concerned about.

If it can do what I want it to do, I'm sold.

GaySatyr
Senior Member

Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 4:40AM
I spent about two hours reading everything I could find about the new G5 Macs. There is some significant truth in the claims that Apple fudged the scores of their G5 competition against Intel. They didn't really cheat in the tests, themselves; they just stacked the deck and didn't bother to point out the handicaps involved.

IF you buy the top-of-the-line G5 (64-bit) machine with a lot of RAM, it will end up costing you about 15% more than a somewhat tweaked-out custom dual Intel Xeon (32-bit) workstation-style machine set up with similar capabilities. There are some significant differences between the two; but in terms of raw speed, with all things made as equal as possible and still having both machines running in an all-out heat, it appears that Intel still wins the race but by a very, very small margin.

So, the new Apple is both slightly more expensive and slightly slower than a nearly comparable Intel-based machine. With 64-bit processors coming from AMD and Intel to compete in this market, Apple may well be left behind again.

However, remember that I said there are some significant differences in the two machines. Significant among those differences are their operating system philosophies and in the way in which users interact with the machine and its operation. There is a definite market for both systems and both systems will do a good job of fulfilling users' needs.

~ GaySatyr

cal444
Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com

927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 5:23AM
Macaholic all the way. I'm scoring my personal one as soon
as possible! Steve Jobs rules.


Cal444
Somewhere thinkin polygons squared, bitchin!

Joey Starr
Senior Member

Still wanking after all these years.
8082 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 8:39AM
Macs have other assets than processor speed alone.

I think the worrying trend was about Macs being significantly slower than top end Intel machines.

The important thing is that they now seem to have closed the gap.

waterproof
Member

452 Posts
5/03
Posted - Jun 27 2003 : 2:28AM
evil,

there is no need to run linux on a "normal" workstation
since it is completly weird to use. everytime i take a look to the most recent kde release it looks like they are years back.

first versions did not support antialiased fonts - windows did have it since years. user interface only runs in single thread model (did they have changed it for now ?).

linux should be the solution for routers, webservers and all that stuff without any graphic use.


cheers, waterproof

SyberScott
Senior Member

1462 Posts
1/03
Posted - Jun 30 2003 : 4:38AM
Macs are OK but I'm a PC guy all the way!

Anybody running Windows 2003 Server?

Goldmember
Member

518 Posts
7/02
Posted - Jul 2 2003 : 2:04AM
Did Mac fudge the test, probably! FYI it is not the first or last time you will see fudged benchmark tests from Apple or Intel or Dell or whoever. However I have not seen anyone argue the real world demos of the G5's speed on real applications. If your in the audio, video, or graphics world the G5 does blow away the competition speed wise.



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