I just had a thought about this. Ariana has such a strong personality to me I would like to see her come into a room playing a substitute teacher for the Gangbang Guys. They can act all foolish and Ariana can lay down the law so to speak on them, let her direct the scene almost, at least the flow. I think she would be great saying come give your cocks in such an aggressive voice or stick both your cocks in my ass!! I can see her coming in wearing a very tight skirt and a white low cut shirt showing off her impressive cleavage!! The song Hot For Teacher by Van Halen inspired this post!! At least it's an idea!!
where the hell do they get the classroom?? how about a county western theme??? or a theme where shes a slave owner and gets gb'd by the slaves and the male slave owners
Cal you mentioned you had the dvd covered, to Dion, is that because you were lying on it? Ok joking aside. Where the hell, I mean HELLLLLLL do you think you are going to get the guys? Lets' be frank here you can't get 2 good guys let alone 21 and I am not buying the 2 mopes you do get changing jackets and funny wigs. Look Biff blew it when he tried to ,lets not use the wrong words here, pressure Steve Holmes into working for him after the whole t-shirt ordeal. Biff blew off the 2 only real performers in Steve and Manuel when he went after that t-shirt issue. I loved you guys and you pissed on cornflakes. You can't compete. Make it a good VHS bro.
Well if they can shoot a gangbang on a football field I'm sure they can find a room that can pass off as a classroom,lol. Or use a big hanger type location and do a scenario like in Top Gun where she plays the Kelly McGillis role!! All those fighter pilots about to defend our country so of course Ariana will want to send them off with a smile!!! That's another thought,lol.
There's many cocks in the sea and our office is becoming increasingly inundated with young stiff hungry studs that are chomping at the bit to thrash hot young babe ass.
The old wave of studs may be gone, the next generation is on the way out of the gate. So get ready for the fresh and new!
Cal444 Somewhere developing talent, some develop, some exploit. Just because you can exploit doesn't mean you can develop.
I'm going to guess your fantasy is to be fucked on a football field!! If so they just did that in #32 but hey let's see it again as you would kick total ass!! Or in a closely related sports theme we could have a little fun with a Bull Durham type theme and have you be the Susan Sarandon character and well instead of choosing from 2 guys to fuck you just have to pick from 21 guys!! I can even see a bat used as a prop perhaps!! I'm sure whatever they shoot you will look hot 'n' nasty and deliver one hell of a performance!! Have a great weekend Ariana!!
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Posted - Sep 12 2003 : 7:22PM
Cal, there are several problems with your arguments. First, I was always polite in this debate while you have chosen to be rude. Rudeness has no place in a civilized discussion. I will refrain from rudeness.
Second, Cal my friend, you have made an Ad Hominem Abusive attack. You have implied that I have not accomplished anything, and therefore, my conclusions are invalid. My accomplishments, or lack thereof, are irrelevant to the argument. How do you know whether I have made substantial accomplishments or not? By the way, I am not a failure in my profession. Anyway, my success or failure is not germane, so let us get back to the issues under consideration. The issues were: are the camerawork and editing of the 2-girl scenes in the GBG series good or not? Anything else beside these issues is irrelevant in the debate. I do not profess to be an editor or a cameraman, but that does not make my criticisms invalid. Many professional critics are not themselves skilled at the endeavors under consideration; good critics need to be able to write and explain the strengths and shortcomings of the subjects under study clearly and rationally. I consider my criticisms to be valid and well thought out. When I make an argument as to why I consider a scene, cut, or edit flawed, I explain clearly why I consider it so. I provide the basis of my criticism within the context of the problem.
Third, another logical fallacy you introduced is the Red Herring. By introducing an irrelevant topic, you have moved the argument to whether I "spout ignorant, clueless bullshit." I am merely pointing out my reasons as to why I consider the 2-camera approach on a 2-girl scene to be unsatisfying. Others have agreed and disagreed with my view; I take the view that if the editing is noticeable and draws attention to itself, the editing or camerawork is flawed. Good editing should draw the viewer in and the viewer should never become cognizant of the edit breaks. Good edits never draw attention and provide seamless transitions.
Please my friend, check on logical fallacies instead of making Ad Hominem attacks and Red Herring arguments. It belittles your argument. Here is a site describing logical fallacies.
The current debate reminds me of the time when I pointed out an inaccuracy in Anabolic’s website and Anabolic changed the website to make it seem that I was wrong instead of admitting a mistake on the website.
Top Gun just so happens to be on TV right now.... excuse me as I go imagine being gangbanged by the entire cast and crew... of course with "You've lost that loving feeling" playing in the background during the whole thing...
you know what, i seen gbg 26 where the scenerio was 2 women getting gangbanged by soldiers. if you ask me, it wasent that hot. ariana, in your opinion what scenerio would you imagine?? anything... fairys, lepracons, other bs.. bla bla bla
I haven't posted much on this board but I can tell that RonK is a major contributor to the discussions in the forum. With that being said, he also comes off as being very demanding at times IMO. It seems Cal has understood the point RonK tried to make judging by his reply above. And Cal seems fed up to me. Now I don't know the whole story but come on, this is Porn. RonK, you seem to take it too seriously at times. From what I've read, you are often going on and on about double anal and what not.... 'make sure its a double everything movie' or 'make sure it has all the newest drop dead gorgeous girls doing really long double anal scenes....' or something similar to that...saying thats no crime but over and over and over??? Seems like a common thread in many of your messages...
next thing I know, your message looks like something out of a dictionary as you reply to Cal's 'rude attack'.
It seems like you have too much time on your hands and that you're a little fixated on double anal. LOL seems lame to me.
I don't give a flying motherfuck WHAT scenario Ariana ends up in, because it doesn;t flipping matter PEOPLE!
All that matters is her naked animal hunger for COCK~!!!!!!
Yes, that's right. Shut up shut up shut up! (I'm quoting Little Richard, not trying to be rude).
Fuck: shoes, feet, boots, soap boxes, Segways --- get with it, goddam: It';s about the raw frenzy the suck-fuck crazy spew slurp! Give this fetish crap a holiday. Sheesh! I'm with Cal. Step back, and let a hot-ass bitch do the popcorn! Good God!!!!
However, the 2-girl gang bangs almost always suck. I'm down with RonK on that. I'd rather have 70 minutes of AJ, and then two tight 30/40 minute scenes with ONE GIRL EACH. My votes: Ander Page, Maggie Star, Jasmine Lynn, Claire James (lure her, lure her!), Katsumi, Selena Silver (HOY HOY!!!!!!!! ), either of the Finnish sisters I drank with tonight at the bar across the street. Y' know: Fuck yeah!
Kinzie Kinner, Wendy James, Julie Silver, Deja Chan, and so on, and on .... Julie Night!!!!
And please -- no Dave Hardman, and not that other guy, either. You know who I'm talking about!
No because she might end up wearing sneakers and there's nothing worst than seeing a girl do a scene with sneakers on. I just hope Anabolic will include more black males in their gangbangs from now on because they didn't in the past and please NO Mr.Marcus!
Ronk Look I really don't have any beefs with you persoanlly. We've had many valid and mutually informative talks in the past. The thing is you sseem to take it for granted that porno shoots come off like finely tuned swiss watches. Nothing could be further from the truth. Porn shoots are like car crashes in progress. Even the smoothest of shoots are more like controled chaos than well thought out pproductions with militaristic persision.
You go into these situations with the best of plans and intentions from there the carnage begins. I can't keep wood. My pussy is sore, I havn't done girl boy for 12 days. My ass is sore because I booked myself for a double anal before I came to shoot for you, but I still expect my full rate, for a 30% performance. The legistics are a nightnare at best, you're dealing with human sexuality, a very fragile, touchy thing to say the least. Not only that but you're documenting it making people even more freaked on top of it.
We always go in with a plan to nake the perfect porn for ya-all and it ends up being, you get what you get then make the best of it after the tow truck hauls away the devbre that use to be your perfect plan.
We do the best the girl will allow us to. Bottom line end of subject, real deal is, if this shit were so easy and simple to do, everyone would be blasting away, having a hay day. It's not as simple as it seems, I think you spend far too much consentration on the "bads", and you don'e give credit for the "goods", achieved. It's easy to sit and hurl stones at people trying to accomplish something than to do something about it. If you know what makes the perfect GB, DP, AA, VV, shoot it, show us all how it's done. I'd be more than happy to review one of you're shoot. Bring it on...
Drinking with those Finnish sisters does it every time!
Honestly, I think with a talent like Ariana, you just turn the girl loose in a roomful of wood and watch the timber fall. Actually, I'd like to see her as the sexy office assistant who unleashes the primal cocksman in a room of cubicle-bound corporate office drones. That could be fun. I worked in an office once where sexual harrassment was like a mandate it went on so much. The weird thing is, since most of the men there were gay, it was about two or three straight middle-aged dudes causing all the trouble (and one dyke). I got myself in trouble once too (though it was unclear who was the harrasser and who was the harrassed, since the torrid trail she blazed through every man in the office --married, single, gay, what have you -- was legend, and I was as dust once conquered, forgotten, unlamented, a stooge). So I can dig the fantasy element in a GBG scene.
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Posted - Sep 13 2003 : 4:54PM
Hey Cal,
Here I can completely agree with you. I just made my point about what I like, but I do understand that things go wrong with the best of plans. Sometimes the editor may have a choice of showing some of the problems or editing the whole mess away. The choice is then a judgment of the lesser of 2 evils. Some Anabolic shoots seem unplanned to get more spontaneity, and here the tradeoff is spontaneity versus control and ideally both together is optimal. Directors can differ and optimize for different effects. All I was saying is a discussion should be based on relevant issues and your above point is valid. Things can sometimes be better, but that day the shoot did not go all that smoothly. If that was your point earlier I would have had no complaints as I do like a lot of Anabolic products but I do feel that sometimes Anabolic is not improving that much especially when the competition is getting better and better very rapidly. In the modern business world, any company that is slow to adapt and improve gets left behind.
Back to Ariana's GB: We can have a surprise Birthday Party for Ariana's 21st B'day. She goes home, and surprise! 21 guys come out of the woodwork and say "Happy Birthday." One thing leads to another and before you know it, we have a 21 guy, 21st Birthday Gangbang Bash. Just a thought.
Here's a thought, do a Casino themed gangbang and have Ariana winning at what else "21!!" However instead of winning money she wins something even better 21 horny guys with big hard cocks!! As you know the house always wins!!!!
ever consider doing those again?? hey cal, maybe you should be in this gb as a gb guy?? hell... why not invite ronk to the set, and since he's talking in the forums about which way to do da, dv, perhaps he can display his examples? heheeh its
Ariana is one of the hottest, easy to get along with gals in all of porndom. Hell I might not even to charge for teching on this one. Naaaaaaaa....Just a thought.
Cal444 Somewhere
Edited by - cal444 on 9/15/2003 1:08:42 PM
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Posted - Sep 15 2003 : 5:19PM
Whatever the scenario I trust Cal will make a quality gangbang and nobody will be disappointed. I just hope that the 21 guys give Ariana a monster facial and some black guys get in on the action.
cal , you ever date the talent?? i recall in an anabolic picture from the website, it showed you with 2 cast on your legs, and a beutiful woman beside you. was she an actor? or your wife??? also, if ronk is indeed in any gb, i'm sure he'll proubally say to himself "dam, these actors make their job look so easy on camera" hehehehe
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Posted - Sep 12 2003 : 3:29PM
