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Pete Zaface
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Posted - Feb 4 2020 : 11:01AM
The allure of GDP for me was not only that it gave us (mostly) true amateur, one-and-done models, but also in the way they were presented, with attire and makeup that gave the scenario an aura of credibility.

Does anyone produce anything similar?

Amateur Allure's attire and makeup is better, but that site pretty much long ago abandoned the "amateur" market, and we're now usually seeing girls who run the gamut from already having done several scenes to some who've been in the business for a year or two. Casting Couch-X also comes close, but, again, most of the girls have already made the leap to professional porn and been seen before.

I don't find BRCC's and ECG's girls generally as attractive or wholesome-looking, and they frequently look like they just came from Walmart.

Those three sites are the biggest ones I can think of that offer some potential, but, as I've trued to explain, they're not exactly what I'm looking for.

If you liked GDP, is there anything out there that might fill that hole in your porn life?

suavehuman
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Posted - Feb 4 2020 : 11:21AM
You won't get hot girls like the GDP anymore. They only reason many of them showed up on GDP were because they were tricked into it. So, yeah, don't expect any more GDP quality girl porn.
Pete Zaface
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Posted - Feb 4 2020 : 11:37AM
Plenty of others knew what was going on. And AA used to have a lot of one-and-dones.

I think the supply is there, and I'll bet the demand is, too -- unless, to get back to the question that was asked, there's someone doing something similar that I don't know about.

suavehuman
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Posted - Feb 4 2020 : 5:07PM
^ yeah but you're not getting back the same quality of the girls like the one in E404
pat362
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Posted - Feb 4 2020 : 6:23PM
The closes site to GDP is Exploited College girls but in their case the guy behind the camera is 100% better at his job than anyone at GDP and the women who appear on ECG tend to do more than appear on ECG.
 
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 4 2020 : 6:33PM
Here's why you'll never see another GDP (unless someone else acts in a similarly unscrupulous manner). You're depending on a weekly stream of super hot girls who have no interest in doing porn, who come to you and do porn. And they have to keep coming.

There are times when you'll find a girl that fits that criteria. Maybe even lots of times. But can you really depend on it being a regular thing? Can you be sure that you'll get the same number of women who don't want to do porn agreeing to shoot porn with you in June that you got in May and April?

It's not a reliable talent base.

The only way to ensure you keep getting girls that fit that criteria is to game the system somehow. In GDP's case, we know what they did.

But it's an impossible business model.

drdd75
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Posted - Feb 4 2020 : 6:43PM
Yeah I agree with some of the posters above, we'll never get a site on the level of GirlsDoPorn again, and not even MomPov either, since MomPov is also done as well which I didn't realize was owned by the same guys as GirlsDoPorn til recently.
suavehuman
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Posted - Feb 4 2020 : 7:52PM
It's not just an "impossible" business model. It's an "illegal" business model.
suavehuman
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Posted - Feb 4 2020 : 7:53PM
I don't think MomPov is the same guys since it's still up and hasn't been taken down.
pat362
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Posted - Feb 9 2020 : 5:41PM
^I didn't realize it when you posted that but on looking into it. I found out that they are from the same guys and sadly MOMPOV is also dead now. Their last official update was on January 12.
Abe Froman SKOC
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Posted - Feb 10 2020 : 9:36PM
I can't believe that anybody who has actually watched GDP and MomPOV scenes was NOT aware of them being run by the same people. They are practically the same formula, outside of the age of the models i.e. Interview, fuck, money shot, clean up in bathroom, say goodbye. Of course, maybe it's just me and I watch too much of this shit...
Pete Zaface
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8/03
Posted - Feb 11 2020 : 4:51PM
+1

I haven;t heard of any lawsuits from victimized "moms." I wonder why? Were the moms told they were going to be on the Internet? Or are the moms sharper than the girls and knew what was really going on?

Is my memory wrong, or did, quite a while ago, Amateur Allure have a pretty good run wherein they had a lot of one - or few and dones, many of whom were pretty hot, as well as some women who were very early in their careers, if not making their first scenes?

Again, throw out the false pretenses, and it seems to me like, in a nation of 300 million, you could still get a fairly decent stream of reasonably attractive girls who'd be willing to do a porn shoot for a lark, on a dare, or because they needed a one-time infusion of cash. (Of course, presentation is crucial, too, and both AA and GDP excelled at that.)

pat362
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Posted - Feb 11 2020 : 6:35PM
^&^^Part of the reason why I didn't associate mompov with GDP is that while they have a very similar style. The people who shot mompov were a 100 times better at their job than the ones who shot for GDP. I stopped caring about GDP years ago because the porn was terribly shot. Not so much for mompov.
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Feb 12 2020 : 2:48AM
^^

There's isn't a consistent stream of women out there who are willing to do porn, but only once or twice just because they need the money. You might be able to find one or two a month, but any site that tries to go this route is either gonna have to lie to the girls to get them there (like GirlsDoPorn) or get agents to send them girls who just started in the industry so you can pretend like you're finding these girls off the street (like Exploited College Girls). Even going through cam sites and propositioning models that way isn't gonna get you enough women interested to consistently update a website.

pat362
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Posted - Feb 12 2020 : 8:10AM
^Are you really sure that there isn't a stream of women willing to do porn because if you are than you have to explain to me why there are always a slew of new women wanting to do porn and don't get me started on the gigantic number of women who do cam shows on a daily basis. How many of those cam models at some point don't try to transition to mainstream porn if for no other reason than to get a bigger profile and go back to cam and ask for more money now that she has done some porn.

GDP's problems weren't that they couldn't get women to do porn. It's the way they went about it that was the problem. We will never know how many of the women who appeared on GDP were aware that this was going to be seen by anyone with a computer and internet access. All we know is that a percentage of them were under some kind of delusion that no one they know would see it.

 
whatsatelephonebill
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10/11
Posted - Feb 12 2020 : 3:03PM
^

I didn't say there wasn't a steady stream of women willing to do porn. I said there isn't a steady stream of women willing to do one or two scenes and then stop. If you're okay with them having careers afterwards, then yes you can find a steady stream of women who are willing to shoot for you. But, if like GDP, you are using the fact that these women aren't shooting for other sites as a selling point, then it becomes much harder.

pat362
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Posted - Feb 12 2020 : 8:52PM
^I think many (maybe even most) of the women who choose to do porn rarely have a long term plan in mind but see it as a way to make a quick and lucrative amount of money. Most of them realize rather fast that while it's a lot of money for a short amount of time. It's not as much as they originally thought it would be and what they are expected to do for it not remotely as easy as they first thought it would be. That's why while on paper they will appear to have chosen to be more or less one and done. They likely set-out to do a lot more but couldn't deal with what it entailed.

Exploited College Girls, Backroom Casting Couch and Black Ambush to name just three still get plenty of unknowns to do porn and most of the women who work for these sites never work for any other studio. I mean both ECG and BCC have been doing this for a dozen years. The only difference between them and GDP is that no one has tried to sue them because they thought their videos would never be seen by any of their friends and family.

whatsatelephonebill
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10/11
Posted - Feb 12 2020 : 11:41PM
^

Backroom Casting Couch also has a history of exploiting women and lying about the release of their videos, they just haven't/hadn't hit the point of getting taken to court over it, probably because it looks like they were a little more honest in their lie, saying that the scenes would be on the web, but behind a paywall. Also, ECG pretty explicitly gets a lot of performers who are actually professional and just shooting their first scenes, many of whom actually even have agents (there's more than a few who women who get sent to Arizona to shoot for both FTV and ECG at the same time). And they've generally been doing that for BlackAmbush and BRCC (which they now own, but I'm not sure if they always have) recently as well. Sometimes these women end up quitting after a few scenes, sometimes they don't, but they're generally not there to only shoot those scenes and stop. To repeat what I said a third time, it's isn't that these women don't exist, it's that there aren't enough of them to continually update a website (as in on a weekly basis), so your options are either to hire professionals or to lie.

Edit: And like I said earlier, the difference between ECG and GDP in general is that while GDP tried to pride itself on the exclusivity of its performers (and I remember talking to one of them that was a cam model and her telling me that they also made women sign contracts that said they were exclusive to them for months after they shot their scenes, so even if they wanted to enter the industry at large they would have to wait), ECG actually plays up when their models become legit stars:

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They, as a site, focus as much on getting girls first as they do getting them exclusively.

Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 2/12/2020 11:47:46 PM

studrams
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7/16
Posted - Feb 13 2020 : 12:45PM
Other than about the last 10 - 15 girls, l have a copy of virtually everything GDP & GDT have ever released.
No site comes close to girls GDP managed to get their hands on. The standard of the girls was the only reason l subscribed, the same scenario week in week out was as boring as batshit.
One thing that made it interesting was a room with a bedside clock, combining their BTS and main scenes and re editing them into their correct order made it clear some of them were fucked for hours and then the footage edited down to whatever was released. What wasn't released would be a treasure trove.
ECG, BRCC and NVG are the only sites l've found that are anything like GDP when it comes to girls that are clearly doing their first scene but that's where the similarity ends.
nutngo
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12/19
Posted - Feb 13 2020 : 2:13PM
^ I've never thought about it, you are a great researcher!



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