Any women think all men resemble intersexes?

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American Deactivated User 8 Posts 12/15	Posted - Dec 23 2015 : 5:33PM Specifically, any women think all men resemble inter-sexes because, they've nipples? In pregnant women's in utero sequence phases , the male fetus evolve from female default stock. Edited by - American on Jan 1 2016 [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - Dec 29 2015 : 11:14PM Anyone figure out what this is supposed to mean? [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Dec 30 2015 : 9:14AM ^ He is asking if men should be considered intersex because we all start as female. Not sure why he is specifically asking women to decide. The answer is no, but it's kind of an interesting question I guess. [Link]
Ben Mockridge Deactivated User 382 Posts 9/15	Posted - Dec 30 2015 : 12:37PM ^ he could be a she unless im missing some indicator to his/her sex. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Dec 30 2015 : 2:01PM ^ Sure, could be. [Link]

Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Dec 30 2015 : 5:14PM If memory serves, we all start out as fish, so I'm not sure that assigning a sex to the 'default stock' is meaningful. [Link]
American Deactivated User 8 Posts 12/15	Posted - Dec 31 2015 : 12:03PM I'm a heterosexual man and I should have included that I'm specifically interested in what only heterosexual women's opinion was about this topic. Below is an interesting article that's related to this topic. "Men Have Clitorises" By Russ Kick on December 27, 2010 in News Here’s a chapter from my Disinformation-published book titled 50 Things You’re Not Supposed To Know: Volume 2 (2004): ________________________________ It’s long been noted that all of us start in the womb as sexless little blobs. We each had the same undifferentiated external equipment (a bud of tissue), plus two sets of internal ducts. Depending on whether an embryo has a Y sex chromosome or two X’s, during week seven it starts developing into a boy or a girl. That little mound of tissue (the genital tubercle) either opens to form two sets of labia and a clitoris, or it closes to make a penis and testicles. When viewed this way, the similarities between guys’ and dolls’ private parts is obvious and has drawn comments since ancient Greek times. But there’s a whole lot more overlap than you might suspect. Women aren’t the only ones who have a clitoris. Men do, too. To fully understand this, it helps to know some things about our naughty bits. In women, the clit is a much larger organ than it generally gets credit for being. That little bit of ultra-sensitive tissue that is the target of so much attention is merely the tip of the iceberg. The visible part that is touched and tasted is the crown, typically 0.25 to 0.75 of an inch in length. Hidden from view is the other 2.75 to 5 inches of the structure! The entire thing is shaped like a Y, with the visible crown leading to the section called the body, which then splits into two legs that hug the urethra and vagina canal. This 3- to 5.75-inch structure is made of two sandwiched strips of corpora cavernosa, a tissue that engorges with blood and stiffens when its owner is aroused. Turning to the penis, we see that its insides are made up of two kinds of tissue. The thin corpus spongiosum runs along the underside of the shaft, enveloping the urethra, and accounts for all of the head. This tissue plays a minor role in erections, since a hard-on is due mostly to the two sandwiched strips of corpora cavernosa, which comprise the bulk of the shaft. These taper off internally right as they reach the spongiosum dickhead. As in women, a man’s cavernosa soaks up blood and becomes erect when sexually excited. As in women, the cavernosa is shaped like a Y with three parts — crown, body, legs. In the case of men, the body accounts for more of the structure, and the legs are relatively stubby. On average, the male cavernosa is typically longer and thicker (which makes sense, since men as a group are bigger than women), and — unlike women — the majority of it is visible. So here’s what we have: the same tissue forming the same structure in the same place. In other words, it’s the same thing. A penis is really a clitoris that’s been pulled mostly out of the body and grafted on top of a much smaller piece of spongiosum containing the urethra. As much as I’d like to be known as the person who first realized that men have clits, the credit goes to psychologist-anatomist-sexologist Josephine Lowndes Sevely for first making this explicit in 1987. Science writer Catherine Blackledge expanded on it in 2004. References: “Male Clits.” Blackledge, Catherine. The Story of V: A Natural History of Female Sexuality. Rutgers University Press, 2004. § Gray, Henry. Anatomy of the Human Body. 20th ed., rev. and re-edited by Warren H. Lewis. Philadelphia: Lea & Febiger, 1918. § Sevely, Josephine Lowndes. Eve’s Secrets: A New Theory of Female Sexuality. Random House, 1987 Edited by - American on 12/31/2015 2:19:54 PM [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Dec 31 2015 : 1:13PM ^ This seems like a "speaking back" gesture to highlight the sexism in calling women's clits "tiny penises" or "the female equivalent of the penis" etc. I approve, naturally. ;) I still don't see the connection to intersexuality, though, unless you are asking if there is no such thing as a strict male/female binary? That would be a yes. [Link]
American Deactivated User 8 Posts 12/15	Posted - Dec 31 2015 : 1:34PM Gore Gore Girl wrote: ^ This seems like a "speaking back" gesture to highlight the sexism in calling women's clits "tiny penises" or "the female equivalent of the penis" etc. I approve, naturally. ;) I still don't see the connection to intersexuality, though, unless you are asking if there is no such thing as a strict male/female binary? That would be a yes. Click to expand American says: I think the people of ancient history believed the Earth was flat and we now realize that their information / evidence was incomplete to determine that conclusion. In ancient history, in women's wombs it's inconclusive if male fetuses evolved from female default raw, stock or vice versa. I don't understand why you can't see the connection to intersexuality because, I think a new, hypothetical, ideal model / blue print is necessary for making women not resembling an intersex / physical separate gender for future plastic surgeons and genetic engineers. Darwin's Evolution didn't physically perfect human females . You did say, " that there is no such thing as a strict male/female binary". You probably will classify me as a sexist because, I consider all women's clits "tiny penises" or "the female equivalent of the penis". All women resemble inter-sexes to me because, the vagina is the only human genital polarity to the penis and not the clitoris. My scientific physical evidence to support my theory is that the adult women's average size clitoris is equivalent in structure and size, exactly resembling a DEFORMED male fetal penis or a DEFORMED male infant's penis! Clitoris stimulation promotes a male bisexual pedophile medical / psychological profile. That's NOT the same as the legal definition of pedophile, that is an adult having criminal, sexual relations with a minor. When I first discovered the clitoris I immediately developed an psychological trauma and aversion, that resulted in selective amnesia of it's existence for an extremely prolonged period. Obviously my memory has returned. I personally, absolutely DON'T believe that all men are inter-sexes but, DO believe all women are! I'm an atheist but, the Muslims that practice clitoridectomy / clitoris amputation also, have that belief. It is the lesser publicized motive compared to sexual repression, in their culture. I believe the surgery should be only voluntary and only on adults, unlike them. Edited by - American on 1/1/2016 3:28:13 AM [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Dec 31 2015 : 2:04PM Ok, you've completely lost me now. [Link]
American Deactivated User 8 Posts 12/15	Posted - Dec 31 2015 : 2:15PM Gore Gore Girl wrote: Ok, you've completely lost me now. Click to expand AMERICAN says: Refer to these below urls, by "cutting and pasting" them in your address bar and press "enter" key. https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/is-hetero-porn-content-a-bisexual-preference#post https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/licking-and-fondling-clit-not-a-male-hetero-act#post https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/cosmetic-clitoridectomy-on-33-year-old-women#post https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/womens-erect-nipples-too-small-in-porn https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/1516-to-1-inch-is-ideal-womens-nipple-diameter Edited by - American on 1/1/2016 3:18:49 AM [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Dec 31 2015 : 2:18PM ^ Makes sense. See ya. [Link]
American Deactivated User 8 Posts 12/15	Posted - Dec 31 2015 : 5:50PM Hardware wrote: If memory serves, we all start out as fish, so I'm not sure that assigning a sex to the 'default stock' is meaningful. Click to expand American says: Biologist interpret human male fetuses evolving from human female default, RAW stock is meaningful. Human Sexual differentiation Defeminization and masculinization are the differentiating processes that a fetus goes through to become male. From this perspective, the female is the default path for a developing human being in that gene actions that are eliminated and that are necessary for formation of female genitalia lead to the development of external male genitalia. Biologically, this perspective is supported by the fact that there are neither female genes nor female hormones that correspond to the hormones active in males only. Estrogen, for instance is present in both the male and female fetus. Embryonic age, is the actual age of the embryo or fetus from the time of fertilization. At week 9 the nipples and hair follicles begin to form. Fetal period From the 10th week of gestation (8th week of development), the developing organism is called a fetus. Changes by organ occur involving the reproductive systems. By the end of the first trimester, the fetus develops sex organs. In uterus fetal development, at twenty eight weeks the fetus is considered legally human but, gender is ALREADY previously determined. Edited by - American on 12/31/2015 11:51:18 PM [Link]
BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09	Posted - Dec 31 2015 : 10:49PM ^ No, it's just a process of differentiation in embryology called gonadogenesis (during organogensis). Personally, I find the anatomical defects (Tetralogy of Fallot) and genetic abnormalities (Klinefelter syndrome) more interesting. [Link]
BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09	Posted - Dec 31 2015 : 10:58PM ^ Sorry, I just realized that this was directed at women. [Link]

American Deactivated User 8 Posts 12/15	Posted - Dec 31 2015 : 11:03PM BYOB_Kenobi wrote: ^ No, it's just a process of differentiation in embryology called gonadogenesis (during organogensis). Personally, I find the anatomical defects (Tetralogy of Fallot) and genetic abnormalities (Klinefelter syndrome) more interesting. Click to expand American says: No apology is necessary. are you answering no, to the thread's topic question? I'm a heterosexual man and I should have included that I'm specifically interested in what only heterosexual women's opinion was about this topic. I know biologist don't acknowledge it and I ABSOLUTELY DON'T accept the (all human males are inter-sexes) interpretation. Embryonic age, is the actual age of the embryo or fetus from the time of fertilization. At week 9 the nipples begin to form. Fetal period From the 10th week of gestation (8th week of development), the developing organism is called a fetus. Gonadogenesis (during organogensis). by the end of the first trimester, the fetus develops sex organs. In uterus fetal development, at twenty eight weeks the fetus is considered legally human but, gender is ALREADY previously determined. I think the people of ancient history believed the Earth was flat and we now realize that their information / evidence was incomplete to determine that conclusion. In ancient history, in women's wombs it's inconclusive if male fetuses evolved from female default raw, stock or vice versa. I think all the evidence isn't complete regarding this. Can't you understand that? Please continue your feedback. Edited by - American on 1/1/2016 2:34:00 AM [Link]
BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09	Posted - Jan 1 2016 : 12:31AM American wrote: BYOB_Kenobi wrote: ^ No, it's just a process of differentiation in embryology called gonadogenesis (during organogensis). Personally, I find the anatomical defects (Tetralogy of Fallot) and genetic abnormalities (Klinefelter syndrome) more interesting. Click to expand American says: No apology is necessary. are you answering no, to the thread's topic question? I know biologist don't acknowledge it and I DON'T accept the all human males are inter-sexes interpretation but, the scientific physical evidence indicates that it's factual. Embryonic age, is the actual age of the embryo or fetus from the time of fertilization. At week 9 the nipples begin to form. Fetal period From the 10th week of gestation (8th week of development), the developing organism is called a fetus. Changes by organ occur involving the reproductive systems. In uterus fetal development, at twenty eight weeks the fetus is considered legally human but, gender is ALREADY previously determined. By the end of the first trimester, the fetus develops sex organs. I think all the evidence isn't complete regarding this. Can't you understand that? Please continue your feedback. Edited by - American on 12/31/2015 11:48:35 PM Click to expand Caveat: Let me first say, embryology isn't really my bag, if it were more on the neural development (neural tube) aspect, I'd have more to say and more insight possibly. So i'll just add my 2cents and there's a lot more people with more knowledge and more insightful on this than me. My understanding of intersex really focuses on humans that do not fall under the phenotype/genotypes of XX and XY. So if nipples are still present in male/XY genotype and phenotype, therefore it's not considered intersex. As to why males have nipples? My evolutionary biology is very weak, and I don't think there is any conclusive evidence or even good theories on this. Although some say they are vestigial and we could be evolving to loose them, but out of pure speculation (probably 100% wrong), I would guess it's still present either for sensory purposes or more likely to keep the same similar anatomical schematic for lymphatic and vascular systems as seen in women. If you think about it, if you have a schematic or template of a human woman with nipples and sub-Q fat/connective tissue/vascular subsystems/lymphatic subsystems and you need to differentiate to another gender (male in this case), is it more efficient to delete a non-primary or secondary-sexual structure and possibly have to "redesign" the plumbing (blood vessels and lymphatic system) under the nipple and in intra-thoracic area or just keep the nipple, keep the plumbing very similar (to the women), and just use small hormones to alter the subcutaneous fat stores (increased in women's breast of course) to alter/develop secondary sex characteristics of women (the breast). I believe keeping the nipple is more biologically efficient, but as I said this is just pure speculation and probably 100% wrong. [Link]
American Deactivated User 8 Posts 12/15	Posted - Jan 1 2016 : 1:08AM BYOB_Kenobi wrote: Caveat: Let me first say, embryology isn't really my bag, if it were more on the neural development (neural tube) aspect, I'd have more to say and more insight possibly. So i'll just add my 2cents and there's a lot more people with more knowledge and more insightful on this than me. My understanding of intersex really focuses on humans that do not fall under the phenotype/genotypes of XX and XY. So if nipples are still present in male/XY genotype and phenotype, therefore it's not considered intersex. As to why males have nipples? My evolutionary biology is very weak, and I don't think there is any conclusive evidence or even good theories on this. Although some say they are vestigial and we could be evolving to loose them, but out of pure speculation (probably 100% wrong), I would guess it's still present either for sensory purposes or more likely to keep the same similar anatomical schematic for lymphatic and vascular systems as seen in women. If you think about it, if you have a schematic or template of a human woman with nipples and sub-Q fat/connective tissue/vascular subsystems/lymphatic subsystems and you need to differentiate to another gender (male in this case), is it more efficient to delete a non-primary or secondary-sexual structure and possibly have to "redesign" the plumbing (blood vessels and lymphatic system) under the nipple and in intra-thoracic area or just keep the nipple, keep the plumbing very similar (to the women), and just use small hormones to alter the subcutaneous fat stores (increased in women's breast of course) to alter/develop secondary sex characteristics of women (the breast). I believe keeping the nipple is more biologically efficient, but as I said this is just pure speculation and probably 100% wrong. American wrote: Thanks for the fetal nipples development theory. I'm ex-username Non_MD_Futurist and your comment in thread topic "Cosmetic Clitoridectomy on 33 Year Old Woman" inspired this thread topic of "any women think all men resemble inter-sexes?". I edited the topic's name from "any women think all men are inter-sexes? I'm still working on a theory that all women with xx chromosomes RESEMBLE inter-sexes, deliberately contradicting the current inter-sex categorization system in Biology. I think all the evidence isn't complete regarding this. My scientific physical evidence to support my theory is that the adult women's average size clitoris is equivalent in structure and size, exactly resembling a DEFORMED male fetal penis or a DEFORMED male infant's penis! Clitoris stimulation promotes a male bisexual pedophile medical / psychological profile. That's NOT the same as the legal definition of pedophile, that is an adult having criminal, sexual relations with a minor. I think the people of ancient history believed the Earth was flat and we now realize that their information / evidence was incomplete to determine that conclusion. It's inconclusive in ancient history, in pregnant women's wombs if male fetuses evolved from female default raw, stock or vice versa. That theory was proposed by a woman sexologist / author I saw on a television documentary. Probable extrapolation indicates that the vice versa process of her theory is wrong but, I believe a presently unknown factor will prove it correct or a related facet of it, eventually correct. I'm aware that doesn't sound scientific. Edited by - American on 1/1/2016 9:08:49 AM [Link]
American Deactivated User 8 Posts 12/15	Posted - Jan 1 2016 : 8:31AM Error. Edited by - American on 1/1/2016 8:43:04 AM [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jan 1 2016 : 7:14PM American wrote: Error. Edited by - American on 1/1/2016 8:43:04 AM Click to expand Looks like you got de activitated. [Link]